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Re: DEATH TO IRAN [message #197910 is a reply to message #197894] |
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Dover
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Allow me to clerify then...
Dover wrote on Wed, 26 April 2006 19:56 |
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Russia has nukes, why aren't we worried about them? WHAT ABOUT THE RUSSIANS MAN?! What about China? Canada? THEY HAVE NUKES! LETS GO KICK CANADA'S ASS!!
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DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 | Remember kids the internet is serious business.
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Re: DEATH TO IRAN [message #197911 is a reply to message #197548] |
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Dover
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By the way, DarkDemin, who the hell are you? Do I know you, and if not, why are you judging what kind of credit I have?
DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 | Remember kids the internet is serious business.
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Re: DEATH TO IRAN [message #197983 is a reply to message #197548] |
Thu, 27 April 2006 13:29 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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DarkDemin's just jealous because he doesn't know how to use facts.
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Re: DEATH TO IRAN [message #198062 is a reply to message #197894] |
Fri, 28 April 2006 10:53 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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Dover wrote on Wed, 26 April 2006 22:56 | So, Iran can have nukes when it signs the non-proliferation treaty? Doubtful.
Why? Because Iran is not the U.S., nor is it any of the U.S.'s historical allies, therefore the U.S. will feel (Or pretend to feel in order to have a somewhat proper pretense for war) threatened by Iraq having nukes.
Russia has nukes, why aren't we worried about them? WHAT ABOUT THE RUSSIANS MAN?! What about China? Canada? THEY HAVE NUKES! LETS GO KICK CANADA'S ASS!!
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By your first statement, it's obvious that you don't even know what non-proliferation means, or what the non-proliferation treaty states.
If they sign the treaty, it isn't doubtful that they will not get nuclear weapons; it would be a fact. See, that's what NON-proliferation means.. "we agree that nuclear weapons should NOT BE PROLIFERATED"
However, if they DO sign the treaty, they can join the 120 other countries that have agreed NOT TO PROLIFERATE NUCLEAR WEAPONS, but instead, share in peaceful nuclear technology (for things such as nuclear power) with safeguards to protect against PROLIFERATION OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS.
Remember when Russia said "hey, we'll enrich your uranium for you, and you can have all the nuclear power plants you want" and Iran said "fuck you, we're doing it in secret, under ground, in like a dozen sites you don't even know about"... Yea, that, along with the fact that they will NOT let the IEAA monitor their program as required by the NON PROLIFERATION TREATY, is a pretty good indication that their full of shit.
Get a clue. (and go look up the capitalized words..)
And that, my friend.. is what darkdemin meant when he said you were talking out your ass, or had no idea what you were talking about.
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Re: DEATH TO IRAN [message #198070 is a reply to message #197902] |
Fri, 28 April 2006 12:06 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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DarkDemin wrote on Wed, 26 April 2006 22:35 | Russia doesn't have money to put rocket fuel into their nukes. China would ruin their economy if the attacked the US. Canada doesn't have nukes and depend on us for defense primarily. I would like to say on the record that 90% of you have no credit in this area of the forum becuase your posts either come out your ass or you have no idea what you are talking about.
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No No NO, you are wrong, Russia has some VERY SCARY MISSLES the R-7
Missle was produced during the Cold War, about 50 exist today, they
have been in various places in Siberia, and I believe some in Ukraine, they have been and still are fueled and ready to go, each one of those missles can either be armed with 10 1 kiloton warheads, or 5 5 kiloton war heads, OR 1 50 MEGATON WARHEAD thats hundreds of times more destructive that the bombs droped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki COMBINED. The missle has a range of 10,000 kilometers and each of those warheads can be delivered to almost any point on the Earth.
--They Have Missles, Believe Me.
Seriously people how can you fight a war on terrorism with all of your borders wide open!
The Goverment Has Failed All Of You.
Americas Founding Fathers Must Be Turing In Their Graves, As Well As Every Revolutionary, Every Soldier That Has Fought For This Great Country.
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Re: DEATH TO IRAN [message #198071 is a reply to message #197548] |
Fri, 28 April 2006 12:09 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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Dover
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...As far as I know, Iran hasn't signed any such treaty. Why wouldn't they be allowed to have nukes?
Iran != Terrorists, agreed?
DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 | Remember kids the internet is serious business.
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Re: DEATH TO IRAN [message #198075 is a reply to message #197548] |
Fri, 28 April 2006 12:36 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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PlastoJoe
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_Non-Proliferation_Treat y
Iran has signed the treaty, according to the article here. The treaty only allows the US, the UK, France, Russia, and China to have nuclear weapons; in addition, the other signatories are not allowed to seek to obtain or develop nuclear weapons or nuclear weapon technology.
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Re: DEATH TO IRAN [message #198076 is a reply to message #198071] |
Fri, 28 April 2006 12:40 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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Dover wrote on Fri, 28 April 2006 15:09 | Iran != Terrorists, agreed?
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No, they harbor terrorists and will not capture known terrorists in their country and turn them over to the U.S.
voanews.com | Iran also harbors, trains, and supports many of the same terrorist groups as Syria. In addition, Iran provides substantial financial and military aid to Hezbollah, which has engaged in terrorism against Israelis, Lebanese, Americans, French, and Argentines, among others. Because of Syria and Iran’s support for such terrorist groups, the U.S. has long designated both countries as state sponsors of terrorism.
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Re: DEATH TO IRAN [message #198143 is a reply to message #198075] |
Fri, 28 April 2006 19:46 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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Dover
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SpyGuy246 wrote on Fri, 28 April 2006 12:36 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_Non-Proliferation_Treat y
Iran has signed the treaty, according to the article here. The treaty only allows the US, the UK, France, Russia, and China to have nuclear weapons; in addition, the other signatories are not allowed to seek to obtain or develop nuclear weapons or nuclear weapon technology.
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Fair enough. My bad.
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Re: DEATH TO IRAN [message #198153 is a reply to message #198071] |
Fri, 28 April 2006 20:41 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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Dover wrote on Fri, 28 April 2006 14:09 | ...As far as I know, Iran hasn't signed any such treaty. Why wouldn't they be allowed to have nukes?
Iran != Terrorists, agreed?
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I AGREE, But you do have to look throught the enemys eyes, and see why they do all of this (Or at least when the will) it gets complicated, but if you use your logical skills, and reason, Im sure that all of you can figure it all out if you wanted to, and YOU SHOULD ALL DO FIGURE IT OUT! Im only begining to figure all of this out, and it has A LONG HISTORY TO IT.
Seriously people how can you fight a war on terrorism with all of your borders wide open!
The Goverment Has Failed All Of You.
Americas Founding Fathers Must Be Turing In Their Graves, As Well As Every Revolutionary, Every Soldier That Has Fought For This Great Country.
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Re: DEATH TO IRAN [message #198155 is a reply to message #198145] |
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SpyGuy246 wrote on Fri, 28 April 2006 19:52 | No worries. I was a little surprised myself to see that they had actually signed it and on top of that had the audacity to blatantly break their promise set forth by signing without even withdrawing from it beforehand. What is the UN doing about it, I wonder?
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Tretys ,in most cases, are nothing more than fragile promises that are writen on paper by two or more leaders with the world watching (Or Not) one day, and war can break out the next. All you have to do is look no farther than your History Book. And remember that not everything in those History Books are true or accurate! Do reaserch!
Seriously people how can you fight a war on terrorism with all of your borders wide open!
The Goverment Has Failed All Of You.
Americas Founding Fathers Must Be Turing In Their Graves, As Well As Every Revolutionary, Every Soldier That Has Fought For This Great Country.
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Re: DEATH TO IRAN [message #198385 is a reply to message #198153] |
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Dover
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thrash300 wrote on Fri, 28 April 2006 20:41 | the enemys
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Who?!
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Re: DEATH TO IRAN [message #198408 is a reply to message #198397] |
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Dover
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SpyGuy246 wrote on Mon, 01 May 2006 09:15 |
thrash300 wrote on Fri, 28 April 2006 20:41 | the enemys
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Enemies. Spelling = Good
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I was asking who he was refering to.
Actually, he probably meant "Enemy's" anyways, although I can't be sure.
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