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| Re: had to keep a promise... [message #197671 is a reply to message #197645] |
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| Aircraftkiller wrote on Tue, 25 April 2006 12:32 |
I'm sure you've done so well, Halo... Except it's simple to kill things with an APC. Try getting that KDR with an Apache or an Orca. Try it without using a vehicle at all... Can you do it? Back up your "point" with some evidence.
As for Crimson's server being full of idiots.. I guess you've never played there. Every time I did, I rarely found anyone standing around.
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Orca is easier to get that k/d and snipers are even easier. It's just gay that you have to refill every so often that i don't bother. I guess i can take a SS of next time i get in a pub server of a good k/d ratio if it'll make you happy.
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| Re: had to keep a promise... [message #197689 is a reply to message #197522] |
Tue, 25 April 2006 14:10 |
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In non00bs it's easy to get such a K/D. Every game there's about 6 people pulling down that kind of ratio, because 95% of the people who play there have no idea what they're doing.
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| Re: had to keep a promise... [message #197691 is a reply to message #197688] |
Tue, 25 April 2006 14:16 |
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| Aircraftkiller wrote on Tue, 25 April 2006 17:09 |
Wow, you used a n00b cannon "ramjet rifle". If you can't get 52/1 with that, you're pretty bad to begin with...
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It's harder when you have only 1 bullet per clip tbh.
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| Re: had to keep a promise... [message #197701 is a reply to message #197522] |
Tue, 25 April 2006 15:07 |
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One-on-ones really prove nothing in FPSs. Especially Renegade. The possible exception to the rule is Counter-Strike, since it's only loosely "team based" and more about who can shoot straighter.
| DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 |
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| Re: had to keep a promise... [message #197712 is a reply to message #197522] |
Tue, 25 April 2006 15:48 |
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It's not hard to get a good k/d with any unit if you are half decent. Knowing what to do in Renegade at the right time isn't too hard. I'd say this game takes a fair bit of skill. Sniping really well does too, but nothing like other games. In bf2 long range shots you actually have to anticipate bullet drop after certain distances, lean targets and so forth. Picking people off like flies in Renegade takes skill, but it takes even more in other games.
Edit: Regarding 1v1s, they do prove something. Sometimes you need to play solo and ignore everything about your team because they're so incredibly horrible. Lone wolf play is almost like a 1v1 and is still an aspect of this game that takes skill. 1v1s show one's ability to play in almost every aspect of this game excluding teamwork.
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| Re: had to keep a promise... [message #197726 is a reply to message #197522] |
Tue, 25 April 2006 17:37 |
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Granted you're correct about the difference between ability and skill, sniping in many games (specifically ones without physics like BF2) still relies a lot on ability rather than skill. You can know a map like the back of your hand, but if you and another sniper are facing off, it really comes down to who will get the shot off first.
Also, the reticle in Renegade seems to require more accuracy in order to make a good shot than in other games. For example, Halo has a small circle as opposed to a single dot. The circle doesn't give a much bigger margin for error, but it is more nonetheless. So if a person's sniping involves a bunch of spastic jumping and haphazard shooting with low accuracy, yeah I see how that can be cheap. But the video had enough one-hit kills for it to draw my attention however much.
The consecutive kill parts were also enough for any montage, so why bash it just cause "sniping requires no skill?" If anyone else got 5+ kills in a row with an Automatic Rifle, I'd still think it was fairly impressive.
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| Re: had to keep a promise... [message #197727 is a reply to message #197522] |
Tue, 25 April 2006 17:39 |
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I have to agree with Aircraftkiller as renegade really doesn't take much skill to be good. The fact that guns shoot where they're pointing even when holding down the button makes it extremely easy. As with tanks, it's just a matter of getting used to aiming in front of them or behind them or wherever. The fact that there's little skill doesn't dismiss the fact if it's fun or not, however. It's just that generally anyone can become good at it if they actually tried.
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| Re: had to keep a promise... [message #197729 is a reply to message #197674] |
Tue, 25 April 2006 17:43 |
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| Terminator 101 wrote on Tue, 25 April 2006 15:05 |
Anyway, I think he is right, sniping in Renegade does not really require much skill, all it requires is
1. Fast computer
2. Very good grapics card
3. Fast connection
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4. Fast Reflexes
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Actually #2, ah never mind.
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| Re: had to keep a promise... [message #197731 is a reply to message #197522] |
Tue, 25 April 2006 18:13 |
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Well, I know I couldn't get 70 kills in a game without serious effort. How about we just call it that? Sniping takes serious effort.
I think Jonathan's abilities are the exception rather than the rule.
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