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| Re: NOD rushes problems(under) [message #197568 is a reply to message #155753] |
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because only the stupid people rush out to the front of GDI's base if GDI plans tog et that many tanks. You're best when they're all spread out and they can all shoot at one tank... though, it should be more like two artys with no techs and the rest light tanks. Really don't need any more than two arts. Just have them be at the back and pound away, though, if you have spare infantry might want to use some repairs for the arts
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| Re: NOD rushes problems(under) [message #197690 is a reply to message #155753] |
Tue, 25 April 2006 14:16 |
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C&C_Under is death for Nod. Nod are incapable of maintaining a seal on GDI's entrance the way GDI can shut down Nod's. If you're Nod and you havn't taken out the WF, the ref, or the PP in the first ten minutes, you might as well give up and fuck around as an SBH.
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| Re: NOD rushes problems(under) [message #197719 is a reply to message #197690] |
Tue, 25 April 2006 17:12 |
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| Dover wrote on Tue, 25 April 2006 16:16 |
Nod are incapable of maintaining a seal on GDI's entrance the way GDI can shut down Nod's.
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I disagree, but it's more difficult to accomplish.
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If you're Nod and you havn't taken out the WF, the ref, or the PP in the first ten minutes, you might as well give up and fuck around as an SBH.
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| Re: NOD rushes problems(under) [message #197724 is a reply to message #155753] |
Tue, 25 April 2006 17:22 |
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odd :\ I could buy a single art and still win pretty much by myself, just as long as random people buy vehicles and can take a few hits instead of them all focused on me. That said, Nod can easily beat GDI just that it more depends on how good GDI is versus how good Nod is, GDI has an advantage, but not so much that it's game over if they have the field. In fact, it's generally best for GDI to not rush up to where they can shoot the airstrip, since Nod can shoot from generally anywhere in theri base and hit them. So it's best for GDI to back up to where they can all shoot any Nod that come out. So generally, a smart art who knows what he's doing can generally destroy them one by one if he had a tech or even if he didn't
Oderint, dum metuant.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
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| Re: NOD rushes problems(under) [message #197785 is a reply to message #197705] |
Wed, 26 April 2006 08:29 |
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| SpyGuy246 wrote on Tue, 25 April 2006 15:25 |
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C&C_Under sucks, and should never be played. Ever.
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I think you're biased.
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You're right, but then aren't we all just expressing our opinions, and therefore, aren't we all biased?
| Dover wrote on Mon, 24 April 2006 11:48 |
The minute GDI decides "Lets get 6 mammys and have 20 Hotwires behind them", Nod lost. GDI can then pointwhore into oblivion. Nod never gets past it's own front door.
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My point. Nobody can contest this, because they know it's true. The old mass mammy/med rush can break Nod holds on GDI base, it can retake the field easily, and it can pointwhore off Nod to no end. NOD can't do this, since they don't get meds or mammys, or anything equivilent to their abilities.
A teched arty is nice, but a Havoc can kill one of those single-handedly.
Edit: Holyshit typo
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| Re: NOD rushes problems(under) [message #197802 is a reply to message #155753] |
Wed, 26 April 2006 10:40 |
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Any halfway decent sniper would kill the tech before sniping the arty.
A well co-ordinated rush through the back door can't be done on C&C_Under, because the back door doesn't exist. The tunnels lead through plain view of GDI and their ubertankfest. Even so, there are always about 5 people per game (Taken from experiance in n00bstories) that dedicate themselves to screwing around in Nod tunnels, using Hotwires for mines and Havocs for kills.
Point: Unless Nod is REALLY good, and GDI REALLY sucks, Nod is screwed.
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| Re: NOD rushes problems(under) [message #197807 is a reply to message #155753] |
Wed, 26 April 2006 11:30 |
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Techs rarely hide unless they're fired upon. If you kill on the first shot...
And besides, assuming the arty is on the opposite ledge (Between the two bunkers) engaged in battle with something in the GDI entrance, the Tech is in plain view.
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| Re: NOD rushes problems(under) [message #197825 is a reply to message #155753] |
Wed, 26 April 2006 13:40 |
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I'm hard-pressed to think of one. Unless the arty shares the hill with the Havoc, which is improbable since it takes away the arty's biggest advantage, it's range.
If the arty any place besides the spot between the bunkers, the havoc can look down on it from the hill and kill the tech. He probably won't need to, since the arty will be in C4 range and 1 timed C4 kills an arty instantly.
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| Re: NOD rushes problems(under) [message #197826 is a reply to message #155753] |
Wed, 26 April 2006 13:40 |
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Dover, I think you may need to settle down. Anyone who has played this game more than a day, will most likely hide behind the arty. As I stated before, the arty is there to keep the infantry in the tunnels. Yeah, a havoc will most likely make it out of the tunnel alive, but not for long. Any sbh that see a severely injured havoc will jump on him. A couple more Arty shells will do the trick anyway. As far as the arty being to busy, thats not the case at all. I usually man that position, it's rather boring. I don't even have a tech repairing me, I do it myself.
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One arty with a tech operating on the far outside ridge.
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At first, you may see several havoc's trying to get out but it usually slows after you kill 4 or 5. It's ironic, havoc's do so much damage to an arty but I wouldn't want any other vehicle in that situation. Also, I shoot between the stone wall and the sniper hut(the small passage) hitting tanks in the side killing hotwires and other infantry. It is far from impossible to keep GDI at home. Been there, done it, got a T shirt.
The biggest risk to losing your grip comes from your teammates. Someone is always bitching, "RUSH, KILL IT NOW! WTF LETS GO". Yeah, like GDI with all their vehicles in base, already pissed off at the world, is going to let 5 tanks with damage roll in an already clogged opening and kill the AGT. Yeah, thats going to happen.
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| Re: NOD rushes problems(under) [message #197827 is a reply to message #155753] |
Wed, 26 April 2006 13:48 |
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"Calm down"? Dude, I'm not excited at all, merely pointing out facts.
In your scenario, you're assuming that Nod already holds the field. GDI wins it back easily with a simple tank rush, meds or mammys.
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| Re: NOD rushes problems(under) [message #197842 is a reply to message #197690] |
Wed, 26 April 2006 15:33 |
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In your scenario, you're assuming that Nod already holds the field.
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Are we reading the same thread? Yeah, thats what I'm assuming. I also have a complete layout of what vehicles go where. I could go into detail about getting these vehicles into a strangle hold position, but that is impossible for Nod to accomplish.
| Dover wrote on Tue, 25 April 2006 16:16 |
C&C_Under is death for Nod. Nod are incapable of maintaining a seal on GDI's entrance the way GDI can shut down Nod's. If you're Nod and you havn't taken out the WF, the ref, or the PP in the first ten minutes, you might as well give up and fuck around as an SBH.
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Trying to convince a person with this type of mentality, and a know it all attitude is an act in futility. Now that I think about it, I have never won a game at under while I was on Nod. You know something else, I never lost a game at under when I was on the green team. I guess he is right.
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| Re: NOD rushes problems(under) [message #197858 is a reply to message #155753] |
Wed, 26 April 2006 17:12 |
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I've lost on Under while I was on GDI plenty of times. However, losing or winning on whatever team you're on also depends on your teamates. Don't just give up if you're Nod on Under. 
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| Re: NOD rushes problems(under) [message #197896 is a reply to message #155753] |
Wed, 26 April 2006 20:00 |
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Now, mrpirate, no need to get personal...
mision08, was that sarcasm? Please clerify.
feetseek, no, don't give up, but don't get your hopes all high just to have them dashed to peices.
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| Re: NOD rushes problems(under) [message #198046 is a reply to message #197896] |
Fri, 28 April 2006 07:29 |
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Do all you people just play in huge AOW servers full of n00bs or something - in a smaller game (which most cw's are) stanks ftw - the field is so big with so many hiding places that you can easily sneak past enemy forces and charge the AGT, even just 2 stanks will make mincemeat of it and be back to base in time to stop any advancing GDI forces.
With base defences down its incredibly hard to defend on Under when you have stealth units running in to your base
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