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| Re: n00bjet-no [message #196891 is a reply to message #196782] |
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When you snipe you just take a humvee or a buggy along with you. When you see a tank on the bridge (On City_Flying) you get your ass in and go back to the base. You'll be able to outrun the flamer, get out and take a few potshots at it just to humilate it, and then get back in. Pathetically easy.
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| Re: n00bjet-no [message #196934 is a reply to message #196880] |
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| Lijitsu wrote on Tue, 18 April 2006 16:43 |
| mrpirate wrote on Tue, 18 April 2006 15:48 |
| nukchebi0 wrote on Tue, 18 April 2006 14:20 |
If they are on the bridge then you can buy a flamer and run them over.
Helicopters are useless in Renegade anyway, except to toy around in.
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I'm just going to come out and say it: you suck at Renegade.
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I agree with this statement.
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| Re: n00bjet-no [message #196967 is a reply to message #196877] |
Wed, 19 April 2006 09:24 |
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| mrpirate wrote on Tue, 18 April 2006 14:48 |
| nukchebi0 wrote on Tue, 18 April 2006 14:20 |
If they are on the bridge then you can buy a flamer and run them over.
Helicopters are useless in Renegade anyway, except to toy around in.
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I'm just going to come out and say it: you suck at Renegade.
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Why?
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| Re: n00bjet-no [message #196968 is a reply to message #196886] |
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| SpyGuy246 wrote on Tue, 18 April 2006 17:13 |
No competent sniper is going to sit on a bridge or any place a vehicle can possibly reach. Doing so is suicide and most everybody knows it.
And flamers are incredibly easy to avoid/escape if you're not in the open, which a sniper should not be.
Aircraft are very useful at reconnaissance and vehicle killing, since they can get right up above a vehicle where its turret cannot reach.
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Single vehicle killing, because if to hover above one, you will get the crap blown out of you by another. However, I did forget about the reconnaissance aspect, and they are helpful for that.
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| Re: n00bjet-no [message #196971 is a reply to message #196782] |
Wed, 19 April 2006 09:40 |
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I suppose my being capable of killing over 10 vehicles on city flying with a copter and getting most kills has nothing to do with the fact that it's a good unit.
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| Re: n00bjet-no [message #196984 is a reply to message #196973] |
Wed, 19 April 2006 12:29 |
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| mrpirate wrote on Wed, 19 April 2006 12:05 |
| nukchebi0 wrote on Wed, 19 April 2006 12:24 |
| mrpirate wrote on Tue, 18 April 2006 14:48 |
| nukchebi0 wrote on Tue, 18 April 2006 14:20 |
If they are on the bridge then you can buy a flamer and run them over.
Helicopters are useless in Renegade anyway, except to toy around in.
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I'm just going to come out and say it: you suck at Renegade.
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See the quoted lines.
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That's really helpful. You typed a vague unsupported statement and are telling me to understand it. Really funny.
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| Re: n00bjet-no [message #196985 is a reply to message #196967] |
Wed, 19 April 2006 12:35 |
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| nukchebi0 wrote on Wed, 19 April 2006 09:24 |
| mrpirate wrote on Tue, 18 April 2006 14:48 |
| nukchebi0 wrote on Tue, 18 April 2006 14:20 |
If they are on the bridge then you can buy a flamer and run them over.
Helicopters are useless in Renegade anyway, except to toy around in.
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I'm just going to come out and say it: you suck at Renegade.
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Copters, especially transports, are not something you "toy around in", especially if you actually HAVE A JOB TO DO while controlling them. I've been playing for a fairly short time, about 2 weeks now, and I got all but 2 of my recommendations (6) for transporting units. Clearly, the only maps I can do this on is City and Walls Flying, but oh well.
I agree with Sniper about the fact that ramjets are too powerful for the flying craft, especially transports. When I have several units and do my common cliff drops on Walls Flying, I tend to lways notice my health has gone from full to near 0 in about 2-3 seconds. Why? Because the other team has about 5 ramjets firing continuously at my transport.
If you want to even this out, at least have a gunner position on the flying transports, so you can kill those pesky snipers, instead of risking yourself to squash them.
Being a mainly transporting guy on the flying levels, those ramjets probably piss me off more than the occasional tank rider or soldier.
Thats just my two cents worth though.
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| Re: n00bjet-no [message #196995 is a reply to message #196782] |
Wed, 19 April 2006 15:16 |
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OK, I will elaborate.
You suck at Renegade because you suggest killing snipers with a Flame Tank. Is this your prefered strategy? I am having some difficulty an circumstance other than extreme stupidity (what's this about a "n00b"jet?) where a Flame Tank would be able to drive across the bridge on City_Flying without the Havocs at the other end doing something in the 30 seconds or so before the Flame Tank arrived to stop it from killing them. Or maybe you were planning to use the Flame Tank, a unit with no splash damage and extremely limited range, to kill snipers in areas where they can't be run over. I don't know.
You suck at Renegade because you say helicopters are useless. In my experience, the exact opposite is true. And I have been playing Renegade for over four years, as well as playing in clans like gse, (who lost something like 9 out of 200 clan wars) so I'd like to think my experience is worth something. I always use an Orca or Apache when I play on City_Flying, as does Sniper_de7, and he and I almost always finish near the top of the server in points and kills. I don't have any numbers, but I'd say that if you're playing on City_Flying and myself or de7 is on your team in a helicopter, you'd certainly win the majority of the time.
Hopefully this reply is in-depth enough for you.
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| Re: n00bjet-no [message #197016 is a reply to message #196995] |
Wed, 19 April 2006 18:14 |
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| mrpirate wrote on Wed, 19 April 2006 15:16 |
OK, I will elaborate.
You suck at Renegade because you suggest killing snipers with a Flame Tank. Is this your prefered strategy? I am having some difficulty an circumstance other than extreme stupidity (what's this about a "n00b"jet?) where a Flame Tank would be able to drive across the bridge on City_Flying without the Havocs at the other end doing something in the 30 seconds or so before the Flame Tank arrived to stop it from killing them. Or maybe you were planning to use the Flame Tank, a unit with no splash damage and extremely limited range, to kill snipers in areas where they can't be run over. I don't know.
You suck at Renegade because you say helicopters are useless. In my experience, the exact opposite is true. And I have been playing Renegade for over four years, as well as playing in clans like gse, (who lost something like 9 out of 200 clan wars) so I'd like to think my experience is worth something. I always use an Orca or Apache when I play on City_Flying, as does Sniper_de7, and he and I almost always finish near the top of the server in points and kills. I don't have any numbers, but I'd say that if you're playing on City_Flying and myself or de7 is on your team in a helicopter, you'd certainly win the majority of the time.
Hopefully this reply is in-depth enough for you.
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1. I forgot that flame tanks aren't as fast as they are in Tiberian Dawn, where they are useful for squashing infantry, as well as torching them. And, snipers on the bridge can be run over.
2. Thank you for proving my point that the ramjet isn't overpowered. If it wasn't effective against helicopters, then the game would essentially be an air battle, as no ground vehicles would survive to be useful. Then the game would be pointless. Ramjets help insure that air units are supplements, not commandos. If I played Tiberian Dawn and bought only Orcas, I would lose to the easy computer in about two seconds when Flame Tanks wipe out my base defenses, and impossible to kill rocket soldiers tore my Orcas apart before eliminating the rest of my base from the map. Or I could buy only Apaches, and get annihilated when Mammoth Tanks destroy my oblisks and shoot down my Apaches with their Tusk missiles. Instead, I use Orcas for hunting harvesters, and unprotected vehicles, or turrets, while using Apaches to eliminate MLRS's and bands of grenadiers. However, I always have tanks, so when there is air defenses, or overwhelming forces that air units can't handle. The smae is for Renegade. If there is no defense, then helicopters are fine. But helicopters won't survuve against any defense at all. I remember one rather idiotic attack I commenced in which I commanded four Apaches to eliminate a Mammoth Tank. By the time the attack finished, the Mammoth Tank had two third of its health,m and I had three dead copters. Since their is no homing rockets in Renegade, ramjets provide the anti-air defense that is otherwise so desperately lacking.
I don't suck at Renegade. prefer to snipe, and on City Flying am shooting down helicopters with the Ramjet. If someone wanted to snipe me, they easily could. But I never die. When I want to kill people I use the sniper rifle, but the Ramjet is much more effective at anti-air. Have snipers cover you if to want to fly helicopters, but don't expect to win with them over enemy territory. It doesn't work in Tiberian Dawn, and it shouldn't work in Renegade.
(Also, what servers do you play on?)
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| Re: n00bjet-no [message #197018 is a reply to message #197016] |
Wed, 19 April 2006 18:19 |
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| nukchebi0 wrote on Wed, 19 April 2006 21:14 |
| mrpirate wrote on Wed, 19 April 2006 15:16 |
OK, I will elaborate.
You suck at Renegade because you suggest killing snipers with a Flame Tank. Is this your prefered strategy? I am having some difficulty an circumstance other than extreme stupidity (what's this about a "n00b"jet?) where a Flame Tank would be able to drive across the bridge on City_Flying without the Havocs at the other end doing something in the 30 seconds or so before the Flame Tank arrived to stop it from killing them. Or maybe you were planning to use the Flame Tank, a unit with no splash damage and extremely limited range, to kill snipers in areas where they can't be run over. I don't know.
You suck at Renegade because you say helicopters are useless. In my experience, the exact opposite is true. And I have been playing Renegade for over four years, as well as playing in clans like gse, (who lost something like 9 out of 200 clan wars) so I'd like to think my experience is worth something. I always use an Orca or Apache when I play on City_Flying, as does Sniper_de7, and he and I almost always finish near the top of the server in points and kills. I don't have any numbers, but I'd say that if you're playing on City_Flying and myself or de7 is on your team in a helicopter, you'd certainly win the majority of the time.
Hopefully this reply is in-depth enough for you.
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1. I forgot that flame tanks aren't as fast as they are in Tiberian Dawn, where they are useful for squashing infantry, as well as torching them. And, snipers on the bridge can be run over.
2. Thank you for proving my point that the ramjet isn't overpowered. If it wasn't effective against helicopters, then the game would essentially be an air battle, as no ground vehicles would survive to be useful. Then the game would be pointless. Ramjets help insure that air units are supplements, not commandos. If I played Tiberian Dawn and bought only Orcas, I would lose to the easy computer in about two seconds when Flame Tanks wipe out my base defenses, and impossible to kill rocket soldiers tore my Orcas apart before eliminating the rest of my base from the map. Or I could buy only Apaches, and get annihilated when Mammoth Tanks destroy my oblisks and shoot down my Apaches with their Tusk missiles. Instead, I use Orcas for hunting harvesters, and unprotected vehicles, or turrets, while using Apaches to eliminate MLRS's and bands of grenadiers. However, I always have tanks, so when there is air defenses, or overwhelming forces that air units can't handle. The smae is for Renegade. If there is no defense, then helicopters are fine. But helicopters won't survuve against any defense at all. I remember one rather idiotic attack I commenced in which I commanded four Apaches to eliminate a Mammoth Tank. By the time the attack finished, the Mammoth Tank had two third of its health,m and I had three dead copters. Since their is no homing rockets in Renegade, ramjets provide the anti-air defense that is otherwise so desperately lacking.
I don't suck at Renegade. prefer to snipe, and on City Flying am shooting down helicopters with the Ramjet. If someone wanted to snipe me, they easily could. But I never die. When I want to kill people I use the sniper rifle, but the Ramjet is much more effective at anti-air. Have snipers cover you if to want to fly helicopters, but don't expect to win with them over enemy territory. It doesn't work in Tiberian Dawn, and it shouldn't work in Renegade.
(Also, what servers do you play on?)
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Well, you and your four Apache must have been horrible pilots then if you only damged 2/3 of the Mammoth Tank's health
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| Re: n00bjet-no [message #197020 is a reply to message #197018] |
Wed, 19 April 2006 18:21 |
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| Feetseek wrote on Wed, 19 April 2006 20:19 |
| nukchebi0 wrote on Wed, 19 April 2006 21:14 |
| mrpirate wrote on Wed, 19 April 2006 15:16 |
OK, I will elaborate.
You suck at Renegade because you suggest killing snipers with a Flame Tank. Is this your prefered strategy? I am having some difficulty an circumstance other than extreme stupidity (what's this about a "n00b"jet?) where a Flame Tank would be able to drive across the bridge on City_Flying without the Havocs at the other end doing something in the 30 seconds or so before the Flame Tank arrived to stop it from killing them. Or maybe you were planning to use the Flame Tank, a unit with no splash damage and extremely limited range, to kill snipers in areas where they can't be run over. I don't know.
You suck at Renegade because you say helicopters are useless. In my experience, the exact opposite is true. And I have been playing Renegade for over four years, as well as playing in clans like gse, (who lost something like 9 out of 200 clan wars) so I'd like to think my experience is worth something. I always use an Orca or Apache when I play on City_Flying, as does Sniper_de7, and he and I almost always finish near the top of the server in points and kills. I don't have any numbers, but I'd say that if you're playing on City_Flying and myself or de7 is on your team in a helicopter, you'd certainly win the majority of the time.
Hopefully this reply is in-depth enough for you.
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1. I forgot that flame tanks aren't as fast as they are in Tiberian Dawn, where they are useful for squashing infantry, as well as torching them. And, snipers on the bridge can be run over.
2. Thank you for proving my point that the ramjet isn't overpowered. If it wasn't effective against helicopters, then the game would essentially be an air battle, as no ground vehicles would survive to be useful. Then the game would be pointless. Ramjets help insure that air units are supplements, not commandos. If I played Tiberian Dawn and bought only Orcas, I would lose to the easy computer in about two seconds when Flame Tanks wipe out my base defenses, and impossible to kill rocket soldiers tore my Orcas apart before eliminating the rest of my base from the map. Or I could buy only Apaches, and get annihilated when Mammoth Tanks destroy my oblisks and shoot down my Apaches with their Tusk missiles. Instead, I use Orcas for hunting harvesters, and unprotected vehicles, or turrets, while using Apaches to eliminate MLRS's and bands of grenadiers. However, I always have tanks, so when there is air defenses, or overwhelming forces that air units can't handle. The smae is for Renegade. If there is no defense, then helicopters are fine. But helicopters won't survuve against any defense at all. I remember one rather idiotic attack I commenced in which I commanded four Apaches to eliminate a Mammoth Tank. By the time the attack finished, the Mammoth Tank had two third of its health,m and I had three dead copters. Since their is no homing rockets in Renegade, ramjets provide the anti-air defense that is otherwise so desperately lacking.
I don't suck at Renegade. prefer to snipe, and on City Flying am shooting down helicopters with the Ramjet. If someone wanted to snipe me, they easily could. But I never die. When I want to kill people I use the sniper rifle, but the Ramjet is much more effective at anti-air. Have snipers cover you if to want to fly helicopters, but don't expect to win with them over enemy territory. It doesn't work in Tiberian Dawn, and it shouldn't work in Renegade.
(Also, what servers do you play on?)
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Well, you and your four Apache must have been horrible pilots then if you only damged 2/3 of the Mammoth Tank's health
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No, the Apache chaingun doesn't damage heavily armored vehicles. And, you missed my entire point.
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| Re: n00bjet-no [message #197022 is a reply to message #196782] |
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Rockets??
And sorry if I missed my point. I'm dumb.
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| Re: n00bjet-no [message #197023 is a reply to message #197022] |
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| Feetseek wrote on Wed, 19 April 2006 21:27 |
Rockets??
And sorry if I missed my point. I'm dumb.
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There are no rockets on Apaches in Tiberian Dawn.
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| Re: n00bjet-no [message #197025 is a reply to message #197022] |
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OOOOHHHH. Tiberian Dawn.......
| Feetseek wrote on Wed, 19 April 2006 21:27 |
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| Re: n00bjet-no [message #197026 is a reply to message #196782] |
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How is that proof that ramjets aren't overpowered? because 2 people who happen are considerably better than the majority of renegade in copters can kill n00b snipers? Yeah, screw everyone else, right? Here's the thing which I've already stated. any general n00b can shoot at a vehicle in the sky with a gun that shoots instantly and its range is endless. meanwhile, any general n00b in an apache *can't* kill a sniper since it takes a bit of skill to actually hit a small moving target, especially in the less than 6 seconds given to the pilot. That's saying if it was just one 1000 dollar sniper. Just because *we* can kill plenty of snipers isn't something you can use as a point. I can kill sakuras with tib sydneys but what does that mean? get my point? If anything, we'd have more say.
I was just in a server not too long ago where some guy bought honest-to-god 7-8 sakuras in a row. Never once did he even attempt anything else. Now, just because this guy sucks with a ramjet isn't something you can rely on if you're goign to convince anyone that the n00bjet is under or over powered. The fact of the matter is that it takes a mere 5 shots to kill a full health apache. You can do this at any range you like, and can even hide in windows where copters can't even hit you. Now a copter? can't exactly do much to hide a copter from the field. Get out to repair and there's a tank near you you're screwed. I'm not even going to use my trump card because I don't have to.
And why are you talking about tiberian dawn? what's the point of that in renegade? is it because it's loosely based on it? And it's a common mistake for the guy to realize you aren't talking about Tiberian dawn since it holds no bearing in a completely different game, so if you're going to use an argument can you use one LOGICALLY? For the sake of God, if not for me. Because God hates stupid people
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| Re: n00bjet-no [message #197027 is a reply to message #197025] |
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| Feetseek wrote on Wed, 19 April 2006 21:40 |
OOOOHHHH. Tiberian Dawn.......
| Feetseek wrote on Wed, 19 April 2006 21:27 |
I'm dumb.
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Obviously, based on your juvenile response and ignorance to the fact I was talking about Tiberian Dawn.
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| Re: n00bjet-no [message #197028 is a reply to message #197026] |
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| Sniper_De7 wrote on Wed, 19 April 2006 20:44 |
How is that proof that ramjets aren't overpowered? because 2 people who happen are considerably better than the majority of renegade in copters can kill n00b snipers? Yeah, screw everyone else, right? Here's the thing which I've already stated. any general n00b can shoot at a vehicle in the sky with a gun that shoots instantly and its range is endless. meanwhile, any general n00b in an apache *can't* kill a sniper since it takes a bit of skill to actually hit a small moving target, especially in the less than 6 seconds given to the pilot. That's saying if it was just one 1000 dollar sniper. Just because *we* can kill plenty of snipers isn't something you can use as a point. I can kill sakuras with tib sydneys but what does that mean? get my point? If anything, we'd have more say.
I was just in a server not too long ago where some guy bought honest-to-god 7-8 sakuras in a row. Never once did he even attempt anything else. Now, just because this guy sucks with a ramjet isn't something you can rely on if you're goign to convince anyone that the n00bjet is under or over powered. The fact of the matter is that it takes a mere 5 shots to kill a full health apache. You can do this at any range you like, and can even hide in windows where copters can't even hit you. Now a copter? can't exactly do much to hide a copter from the field. Get out to repair and there's a tank near you you're screwed. I'm not even going to use my trump card because I don't have to.
And why are you talking about tiberian dawn? what's the point of that in renegade? is it because it's loosely based on it?
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You obviously didn't read close enough in my post about the balancing of the helicopter's power, or having a cover sniper. Anyway, what is your trump card?
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| Re: n00bjet-no [message #197029 is a reply to message #196782] |
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Yes, I did already comment on it, and i said a snipe rwould be the last unit in the world to shoot copters. a sniper = kill infantry. If you're going to have an anti-copter unit, it should be a PIC/Rave, That makes more logical sense than a sniper. Or i said if it's going to be a unit like the sniper, make it so that it takes the least bit of skill to kill a copter. Not anyone who has an IQ of over 12 can shoot copters.
I'm not goign to tell you my trump since anyone who's had a hand of playing clanwars (which, if you're going to go into strategies as to winning a map, clanwars shows you exactly how to do it) would know what i mean with snipers. The point is, snipers = killing infantry. Every person who supports n00bjets are the exact same people who use n00bjets religiously. They're the ones I talk about where if you kill them, they'll buy another 1000 dollar sniper, over and over and over until the map ends. They know, as I do, that they get massive points for shooting copters and they can reclaim their lost money easily by shooting anything on sight, meaning if you kill them they can easily buy another. This is why if the sniper had any ounce of skill in it, say the gun didn't shoot instantly, I'd know for a fact these people would STOP using it, since they'd suck so bad they'd probably just leave the server. Does that about sum it up for you? I don't know how much more easy i can tell you
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It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
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| Re: n00bjet-no [message #197034 is a reply to message #197029] |
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| Sniper_De7 wrote on Wed, 19 April 2006 20:56 |
Yes, I did already comment on it, and i said a snipe rwould be the last unit in the world to shoot copters. a sniper = kill infantry. If you're going to have an anti-copter unit, it should be a PIC/Rave, That makes more logical sense than a sniper. Or i said if it's going to be a unit like the sniper, make it so that it takes the least bit of skill to kill a copter. Not anyone who has an IQ of over 12 can shoot copters.
I'm not goign to tell you my trump since anyone who's had a hand of playing clanwars (which, if you're going to go into strategies as to winning a map, clanwars shows you exactly how to do it) would know what i mean with snipers. The point is, snipers = killing infantry. Every person who supports n00bjets are the exact same people who use n00bjets religiously. They're the ones I talk about where if you kill them, they'll buy another 1000 dollar sniper, over and over and over until the map ends. They know, as I do, that they get massive points for shooting copters and they can reclaim their lost money easily by shooting anything on sight, meaning if you kill them they can easily buy another. This is why if the sniper had any ounce of skill in it, say the gun didn't shoot instantly, I'd know for a fact these people would STOP using it, since they'd suck so bad they'd probably just leave the server. Does that about sum it up for you? I don't know how much more easy i can tell you
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A ramjet was obviously designed to be more than just a sniper rifle.
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| Re: n00bjet-no [message #197035 is a reply to message #196782] |
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Not really, Westwood just threw it in there to counter copters, they didn't care to actually make it fair though, which is exactly the point i'm trying to say. Westwood had no real intentions to making the ramjet be overpowered. They had no knowledge that people would abuse the fact people would use it to get massive points and have 5 n00bjets on one team. If they would have known they'd have made another unit and make it so that it takes a small amount of skill to kill a copter. Not make it so everyone can, as everyone does. So to answer your question, it WAS intended to be just to kill infantry. That's what a sniper rifle is for. You don't hear stories of the white feather shooting down tanks. It's because it's impractical. And besides even yet
And even so, it stilld oesn't explain why it's good against artys or anything, since tanks are aplenty good anti-arty or anti-mrl unit, so logically it doesn't fit at all.
Here let me stretch a story to make a point, if westwood had a gun that killed all copters in one hit, but copters could kill other things well, does that mean that it makes that specific gun any more or less fair? If it's going to be fair, make it so that it takes more skill to kill a copter. I'm fine if it's anti air and everything, but it shouldn't be able to kill a copter in 5 hits, if it was say 10 or something, than it would require a lot more skill for a person. Now do you understand? Just because it's anti-whatever doesn't mean it should be overpowered so much that it makes that unit useless
Oderint, dum metuant.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
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