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Has the obelisk glow ever worked? [message #196701]

Sun, 16 April 2006 21:28

jonwil
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I am trying to diagnose if the obelisk glow effect (the red cloud thing) has ever worked when playing as someone other than the host.
Does anyone know if it has ever worked (with bhs.dll on the server/client or without) and if so, what versions of scripts.dll were involved. All I know is that I cant make it work unfortunatly and I dont know why Sad

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Re: Has the obelisk glow ever worked? [message #196705 is a reply to message #196701]

Sun, 16 April 2006 22:06

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I don't remember which version it was, but I've seen it glow in a public server many times before. I actually thought this was fixed.

What I can tell you is that I had bhs.dll.

[Updated on: Sun, 16 April 2006 22:07]

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Sun, 16 April 2006 22:39

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yes

scripts = 688KB 3/11/2006
BHS = 180KB 3/11/2006

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Re: Has the obelisk glow ever worked? [message #196708 is a reply to message #196701]

Mon, 17 April 2006 00:02

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So you had that scripts.dll/bhs.dll version and connnected to a server and got the obelisk glow?

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Re: Has the obelisk glow ever worked? [message #196710 is a reply to message #196701]

Mon, 17 April 2006 00:39

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index.php?t=getfile&id=1001&private=0

Attachment: Ob.JPG
(Size: 60.98KB, Downloaded 597 times)
Attachment: Ob2.JPG
(Size: 66.50KB, Downloaded 174 times)
Attachment: Ob3.JPG
(Size: 68.65KB, Downloaded 296 times)

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[Updated on: Thu, 27 April 2006 11:04]

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Re: Has the obelisk glow ever worked? [message #196711 is a reply to message #196701]

Mon, 17 April 2006 00:42

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My client version of scripts.dll and bhs.dll:

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/6828/scriptsbhs26mar061iz.th.jpg

I think that's 2.6, but it might be 2.5.2

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[00:36:21] <~ccfan4326[Laptop]> it's running 2.2.x

Fraps Video: http://bcserv5.black-cell.net/~pub/havoc9826/obglow.wmv - 2.1 MB

What I find a bit weird is how the obelisk charge sound is at the location of the target, rather than at the obelisk itself, although I certainly like the advantage it gives Razz

Razz

Also, in the second part of my video, I'm not sure why the obelisk's so confused as to whether it should be charging or shooting, but maybe that's Renegade's fault.

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Mon, 17 April 2006 01:31

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I'm sure i've seen it, running pure Renegade, no bhs.dll or scripts.

Sometimes it will charge but not fire.

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Mon, 17 April 2006 01:51

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I think the only time I've seen it work in pure Renegade is in Multiplayer Practice. I may be mistaken though, since I haven't been without client-side scripts in over a year and a half.

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Mon, 17 April 2006 05:19

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Ive never played without client side scripts. So its always worked for me.

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Re: Has the obelisk glow ever worked? [message #196749 is a reply to message #196701]

Mon, 17 April 2006 10:04

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It has worked ever since the first BHS.dll

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Mon, 17 April 2006 12:25

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i swear its done server side?

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Re: Has the obelisk glow ever worked? [message #196760 is a reply to message #196701]

Mon, 17 April 2006 13:17

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It's always worked fine after using client side scripts.

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Mon, 17 April 2006 18:10

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Even before I downloaded RG, I could see the glow. After that, though, it seemed much better.

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Mon, 17 April 2006 18:43

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It glows but when not using the scripts listen for the sounds then move. Sometimes i forget its charging and move to soon and ZAP!. The sound is key when ob walking on servers that allow it.

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Re: Has the obelisk glow ever worked? [message #196849 is a reply to message #196701]

Tue, 18 April 2006 05:21

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Ok, turns out that SSAOW (and Dragonade) contain code to do the obelisk glow. This is why so many people see it on their servers (including me on bcsrv5) but I cant make it work in my tests. The answer is that it doesnt work, SSAOW just includes logic to fake it and make it look like it works.
So, it would appear as though there might be something wrong with my animation fix (or with Set_Animation_Frame). Further testing is needed.

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Tue, 18 April 2006 09:23

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jonwil wrote on Tue, 18 April 2006 07:21

Ok, turns out that SSAOW (and Dragonade) contain code to do the obelisk glow. This is why so many people see it on their servers (including me on bcsrv5) but I cant make it work in my tests. The answer is that it doesnt work, SSAOW just includes logic to fake it and make it look like it works.
So, it would appear as though there might be something wrong with my animation fix (or with Set_Animation_Frame). Further testing is needed.

mm-kay

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Re: Has the obelisk glow ever worked? [message #197503 is a reply to message #196701]

Mon, 24 April 2006 02:39

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Obelisk glowing (the animation) worked since BHS.dll 1.9 (scripts 1.9), try the scripts.dll stuff in CP1..

I remember testing it - no doubt that it worked. if it doesn't work anymore, it might be broken. No SSAOW was needed to make it work.

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Mon, 24 April 2006 07:37

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If someone can identify which combination of server (non SSAOW) dll and client dll make the obelisk work, that would be great Smile

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Re: Has the obelisk glow ever worked? [message #197766 is a reply to message #196701]

Wed, 26 April 2006 02:41

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Well I have the latest client scripts.dll and I have been getting the obelisk glow working properly for a long time, also worked with various older versions of scripts.dll

I always play on TK2 serv, but as far as I know that runs SSAOW (not sure which version)

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Wed, 26 April 2006 03:21

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danpaul88 wrote on Wed, 26 April 2006 05:41

Well I have the latest client scripts.dll and I have been getting the obelisk glow working properly for a long time, also worked with various older versions of scripts.dll

I always play on TK2 serv, but as far as I know that runs SSAOW (not sure which version)

SSAOW 1.5 is on our server.

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Re: Has the obelisk glow ever worked? [message #197773 is a reply to message #196701]

Wed, 26 April 2006 05:47

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It has always worked for me since CP1, and i thought it fixed it because in the readme for CP1, it said it fixed that Huh

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Wed, 26 April 2006 16:19

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I have tried several different versions of scripts.dll on both the server and the client (including both the CP1 and the CP2 versions) and no obelisk glow in my tests.
If someone can find a server that is running a stock scripts.dll version AND has working obelisk glow when used with a given stock scripts.dll version on the client, please point me to it (so I can do further tests)

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Wed, 26 April 2006 16:54

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My server does Thumbs Up

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