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OK,I just spent almost 2 grand on a kick ass hosting comp. Im running 64-bit windows on it. Its a dual prossesor with like 5 gigs of ram. Built it myself. Anyways, I can host a 32-60 renegade server on it without tons of lag. I know how to work almost every kind of bot for the server: brenbot, br.net, dragonccell or whatever...your choice of bot. I can work mIRC very well. I have cable internet temporarily (until I get my T3 internet working again) so I can host a 16-24 player server right now. Well im looking for a clan or community in need/want of another server, I was kind of hoping something like non00bs, n00bless, zer0BS, xphaze, you know something like that. So if you are interested in having a very nice renegade server feel free to post.Thanx,
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Re: ***Need a Renegade Server?*** [message #196352 is a reply to message #196349] Sat, 15 April 2006 02:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Cost?

Re: ***Need a Renegade Server?*** [message #196354 is a reply to message #196349] Sat, 15 April 2006 02:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No cost, but I am gonna need donations to keep it running for a long period of time.

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Re: ***Need a Renegade Server?*** [message #196355 is a reply to message #196349] Sat, 15 April 2006 02:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't think any reputable server owner would even consider this offer.

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Re: ***Need a Renegade Server?*** [message #196356 is a reply to message #196355] Sat, 15 April 2006 02:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Crimson wrote on Sat, 15 April 2006 04:54

I don't think any reputable server owner would even consider this offer.

I do, im just getting started Big Ups


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Re: ***Need a Renegade Server?*** [message #196359 is a reply to message #196349] Sat, 15 April 2006 03:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yeah, ok... I'm really sure you're getting a T-3 to your house. Roll Eyes

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Re: ***Need a Renegade Server?*** [message #196366 is a reply to message #196349] Sat, 15 April 2006 03:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Somehow, I think Crimson is right...

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Re: ***Need a Renegade Server?*** [message #196370 is a reply to message #196349] Sat, 15 April 2006 04:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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not to my house it goes to my office. My dad owns a business, and he needs the high speed for him and his employees. but you dont have to beleive me. i will show you a dsl report when i get my internet back

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Re: ***Need a Renegade Server?*** [message #196373 is a reply to message #196349] Sat, 15 April 2006 06:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Haha, oh man..

Even if you had a T3 to your house, that's not going to provide enough bandwidth to host "32-60 renegade server."

Nobody is going to put a reputable game server on a residential single-homed connection with crappy peering anyway.


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Re: ***Need a Renegade Server?*** [message #196413 is a reply to message #196349] Sat, 15 April 2006 12:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ok,
don't have to worry about my server anymore. I'm going to be hosting my server for Zer0BS as of Tuesday. Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin


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Re: ***Need a Renegade Server?*** [message #196442 is a reply to message #196349] Sat, 15 April 2006 18:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My main concern would be your providing on a shared internet.

What happens if the employees start using it?


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Re: ***Need a Renegade Server?*** [message #196448 is a reply to message #196349] Sat, 15 April 2006 18:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If the employees use it thats fine, doesnt cause any problems. There is about 500 people on the lan/T3 connection

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Re: ***Need a Renegade Server?*** [message #196451 is a reply to message #196349] Sat, 15 April 2006 18:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A T3 connection only provides 4.3 MB/sec upload. That's assuming you're on a full T3, rather than a shared one. I hope your server doesn't have a lot of players... I'd say the most you'll be able to host would be about 30.


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Re: ***Need a Renegade Server?*** [message #196597 is a reply to message #196349] Sun, 16 April 2006 14:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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actually, i have hosted a 40 player server without any lag whatsoever...the server got up to 33 people without any lag so stfu

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Re: ***Need a Renegade Server?*** [message #196598 is a reply to message #196349] Sun, 16 April 2006 14:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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33 != 40.

Re: ***Need a Renegade Server?*** [message #196627 is a reply to message #196451] Sun, 16 April 2006 15:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kanezor wrote on Sat, 15 April 2006 21:44

A T3 connection only provides 4.3 MB/sec upload. That's assuming you're on a full T3, rather than a shared one. I hope your server doesn't have a lot of players... I'd say the most you'll be able to host would be about 30.



incorrect... a T3 is 45Mbit per second.. it's enough telephone bandwidth to serve a small town.. before the age of broadband internet, of course.
Re: ***Need a Renegade Server?*** [message #196631 is a reply to message #196627] Sun, 16 April 2006 16:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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msgtpain wrote on Sun, 16 April 2006 17:37

Kanezor wrote on Sat, 15 April 2006 21:44

A T3 connection only provides 4.3 MB/sec upload. That's assuming you're on a full T3, rather than a shared one. I hope your server doesn't have a lot of players... I'd say the most you'll be able to host would be about 30.



incorrect... a T3 is 45Mbit per second.. it's enough telephone bandwidth to serve a small town.. before the age of broadband internet, of course.

I know exactly that a T3 is 45MBit per sec. That's why I said 4.3MB/sec. MB = Megabyte. After your IP (TCP, UDP, etc) overhead, you'll get roughly 4.3MB. And yes, it is indeed plenty bandwidth for a small town before the age of broadband. Today, 43MBit is good for (I'm guessing here) about 10-20 houses, at the very most.


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Re: ***Need a Renegade Server?*** [message #196651 is a reply to message #196349] Sun, 16 April 2006 17:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, I live in a small town up by Bakersfield, California...
It works perfectly for my server. Better than anything youll ever host Kanezor.


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Re: ***Need a Renegade Server?*** [message #196667 is a reply to message #196631] Sun, 16 April 2006 18:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kanezor wrote on Sun, 16 April 2006 19:10


I know exactly that a T3 is 45MBit per sec. That's why I said 4.3MB/sec. MB = Megabyte. After your IP (TCP, UDP, etc) overhead, you'll get roughly 4.3MB. And yes, it is indeed plenty bandwidth for a small town before the age of broadband. Today, 43MBit is good for (I'm guessing here) about 10-20 houses, at the very most.



If you understand that, then you obviously don't understand how to convert a player's bandwidth to MBytes..

45 Megabit is 5.6 Megabyte.. assuming we do account for TCP overhead and only see an actual 4.3 Megabytes.. We can still host about 235 players each receiving 150 Kilobits each.. Not the 30 you stated.

A 40 player server with a really high NUR on a 100 Megabit port could average around 4000 - 5000 kilobits per second of bandwidth.. If the computer could handle it, the T3 connection could host 7-8 of those servers running on it.
Re: ***Need a Renegade Server?*** [message #196672 is a reply to message #196349] Sun, 16 April 2006 19:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ahh, forgive me. I was thinking that the F8 -> FPS display was showing data in KBytes/sec rather than KBits.

It does always seem to max out at my maximum downstream KBytes rather than KBits... And I do recall someone mentioning long ago that Renegade uses a shitload of bandwidth compared to other games, which is why I thought the KBPS display was KBytes rather than KBits.


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Re: ***Need a Renegade Server?*** [message #196674 is a reply to message #196349] Sun, 16 April 2006 19:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I am acutually gonna host 2 32 player servers instead of one 50 player server.

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Re: ***Need a Renegade Server?*** [message #196675 is a reply to message #196349] Sun, 16 April 2006 19:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Awesome! Does it require Renguard or only recommend it?
Re: ***Need a Renegade Server?*** [message #196709 is a reply to message #196349] Mon, 17 April 2006 00:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: ***Need a Renegade Server?*** [message #196750 is a reply to message #196349] Mon, 17 April 2006 10:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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EleMeNtaL wrote on Sat, 15 April 2006 05:33


I know how to work almost every kind of bot for the server: brenbot, br.net, dragonccell or whatever...


It's DragonServ from black-cell not dragonccell, I seriously doubt you even have it to even be able to know "how to work it".

And if you manage to max out your two 32 player servers with players on that connection that is shared between 500 people then yes it will lag.

Also your daddy might get annoyed one day because he is recieving a DDOS attack from some little punk who got busted cheating and banned.



Re: ***Need a Renegade Server?*** [message #196752 is a reply to message #196349] Mon, 17 April 2006 11:26 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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