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Grenadiers may be a basic class, not have much health, and are only for gdi, but dont look at it that way, the grenadier is way more powerful than you can imagine, and im not lying when i tell you i was playing the complex map, had a grendier,was in the tunnels, with 2 sakuras and an SBH shooting at me, i almost killed the sbh (he had about 30 hp left id say),and killed one sak, and slightly damaged the last one, then i got badely hurt and ran off.

The greandier has 3 things going for it.

1: its the most damaging (to tanks and infantry) first class you can get.

2: Its grenades arch and bounce off walls, so if somone is in a crows nest above you, you can still hit them, and if theyre behind a wall and so are you, you can bounce it off the ground or theyre wall to kill/hurt them.

3: They have area damage, which most weapons dont, and no basic class has (except the flamethrower but its not really area damage).

Somtimes i pass up on higher class characters even when i got money to use then grenadier because they have alot of pwer in them, ive killed people in 1 hit before , 1 hit to the head = instant death for everyone except 3rd class characters.


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Re: Grenadier vs. everyone else [message #194021 is a reply to message #194010] Mon, 27 March 2006 12:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes, grenadiers are pretty good, however:
1. For a grenade, the splash damage is poor(compared to RenAlert)
2. The reloading takes a bit too long.
3. Sometimes the grenades don't bounce the way they should.


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Re: Grenadier vs. everyone else [message #194027 is a reply to message #194010] Mon, 27 March 2006 13:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My main beef with grenades is that they lob. I like my weapons to go where I aim.

For example, I can't deal with those homing rockets, simply because they don't go where I aim. I'm too used to the regular rockets.

Similarly, after mostly using projectile weapons that go STRAIGHT, I can't get used to Renegade's grenades. The only prior experiance I have with grenades and FPSs is Counter-Strike, and the grenades are completely differant there...


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The grenadier has a purpose even above those of 2nd third and 4th class characters, which is that its the only weapon that archs. I was playing GDI on the complex map yewsterday, there are crows nests above it, 2 sakuras where up there sniping off my team mates, i told 2 of my freinds and to etgrenadiers, and on 3 we would shoot to the top where they were, i was a gren as well, i said...1...2...3....SHOOT! and we launched about 6 grenades in 2 secounds and killed one sakura, heavily damaging another.

Grenadiers are not the most powerful class by any volume, but unlike any other 1st (basic) class character,they have a purpose which cannot be rivaled by a higher class character.


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Re: Grenadier vs. everyone else [message #194598 is a reply to message #194010] Fri, 31 March 2006 10:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gunner > Grenadier.

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Re: Grenadier vs. everyone else [message #194605 is a reply to message #194010] Fri, 31 March 2006 12:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sniper > Grenadier. Soldier > Grenadier. Chem Trooper > Grenadier. Sedan > Grenadier.

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Re: Grenadier vs. everyone else [message #194610 is a reply to message #194010] Fri, 31 March 2006 12:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sedan > All.

The grenedier is useful for some things, like an early rush on the Nod ref on C&C canyon. A full load of ammo will get you 250 points or so, and you can shoot from the comfort of that sniper spot.


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Re: Grenadier vs. everyone else [message #194627 is a reply to message #194010] Fri, 31 March 2006 13:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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...and pickup truck > sedan

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Re: Grenadier vs. everyone else [message #194628 is a reply to message #194627] Fri, 31 March 2006 13:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sniper_De7 wrote on Fri, 31 March 2006 15:40

...and pickup truck > sedan

I was about to say that... THOUGHT STEALER!


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Crime8768 wrote on Mon, 27 March 2006 19:20

then i got badely hurt and ran off.

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Re: Grenadier vs. everyone else [message #194696 is a reply to message #194010] Fri, 31 March 2006 22:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The grenadier has its uses. It's hell on a harvester, the airstrip at field, power plant at Siege. Whatever happened to Gobi, Sands, and Siege?
Nevertheless, I wish I could be a tech or engineer 100% of the time.


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Re: Grenadier vs. everyone else [message #194708 is a reply to message #194010] Sat, 01 April 2006 00:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Crime8768 wrote on Mon, 27 March 2006 13:20

Grenadiers may be a basic class, not have much health, and are only for gdi, but dont look at it that way, the grenadier is way more powerful than you can imagine, and im not lying when i tell you i was playing the complex map, had a grendier,was in the tunnels, with 2 sakuras and an SBH shooting at me, i almost killed the sbh (he had about 30 hp left id say),and killed one sak, and slightly damaged the last one, then i got badely hurt and ran off.

So your opponents were completely abysmal at the game. That doesn't mean the grenadier is good at anti-infantry.

Crime8768 wrote on Mon, 27 March 2006 13:20

1: its the most damaging (to tanks and infantry) first class you can get.

no, it isn't. Most damaging to tanks: engineer. Engineers can rape a vehicle if you can get close, or failing that you can at least delay their rush for moment while they reverse to avoid getting C4'd, giving those on your team who actually have weaponry more time to destroy them. Most damaging to infantry: overall GDI soldier.

Crime8768 wrote on Mon, 27 March 2006 13:20

2: Its grenades arch and bounce off walls, so if somone is in a crows nest above you, you can still hit them, and if theyre behind a wall and so are you, you can bounce it off the ground or theyre wall to kill/hurt them.

big deal, they still don't do much damage

Grenadiers are good on Field for getting money quick, and for killing harvesters on field and cityfly. Other than that if you have no money or the barr is dead, you're much better off with a GDI soldier or engineer.


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Re: Grenadier vs. everyone else [message #194859 is a reply to message #194010] Sun, 02 April 2006 12:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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...Or the Uber 1337 S3d4n.

I prefer Gunner, since he's pretty cheap and actually useful...


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Gunner has it's uses. Take out the ref at mesa in a 12+ player game. Although, I never buy one. The rate of fire is not to my liking.

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Beats the rocket officer. Big Ups

The rate of damage is fine for the damage it deals. Headshot + rocket = pwnt. Bodyshot + 2 rockets = pwnt. Splashshot + 6 rockets = pwnt.

10 gunners can kill a building in about 6 seconds. Is that great or what?

I did the whole gunner rush on mesa, and it worked reasonably well, but Nod held the middle, and got in a good APC rush, taking out our PP. Then my mouse gave out so I quit.


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Whatever floats your boat, it's just not in my game plan. All I want is to be a tech 100% of the time.

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Techs are nice, but I can't think of a more thankless job...

I prefer to be a sniper, or a pic if I'm need, or a tank/orca driver. Other than that, gunner all teh way. Big Ups


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Re: Grenadier vs. everyone else [message #195100 is a reply to message #194010] Tue, 04 April 2006 00:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tech + tank.

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DJM wrote on Tue, 04 April 2006 02:38

Tech + tank.


Still not any less thankless. In fact it's more thankless since you often get blamed if the tank dies, as opposed to the driver being a shitty driver.


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Re: Grenadier vs. everyone else [message #195133 is a reply to message #194010] Tue, 04 April 2006 08:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Being a Tech or Hotty usually is thankless, but you get plenty of kills from Proximity Mines, and the likelihood is that you're going to have a lot of points by the end of the game, which should get you noticed at least.
Re: Grenadier vs. everyone else [message #195137 is a reply to message #194010] Tue, 04 April 2006 09:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Very true, very true. Engineering has kind of become my specialty since I'm often the only one on my team who recognizes its importance until a beacon is planted. A lot of the time I'm in the top 10 players with no kills from repairing buildings and such.

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Re: Grenadier vs. everyone else [message #195227 is a reply to message #194010] Wed, 05 April 2006 03:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, the Grenadier can destroy a Harvester alone, while Nod needs to use a Chem Trooper (cost=150) to destroy a Harvester with 1 person.

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SpyGuy246 wrote on Tue, 04 April 2006 11:00

Very true, very true. Engineering has kind of become my specialty since I'm often the only one on my team who recognizes its importance until a beacon is planted. A lot of the time I'm in the top 10 players with no kills from repairing buildings and such.


For some reason most people on my team don't recognise their importance even when a beacon is planted. -_-;;;
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GRANADERS ARE AWESOME!!!I EVEN TRY TO ORGANISE GRANADER RUSHES BUT IT DOESNT WORK

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