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| Re: OT: What do you do to sales people on the phone? [message #194476 is a reply to message #194474] |
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| xptek wrote on Thu, 30 March 2006 13:00 |
Sources indicate carjacking is indeed illegal. Telemarketing isn't.
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"Illegal" and "immoral" aren't the same thing. Just because something isn't illegal doesn't mean it isn't immoral. Peeing in a public pool, for example, isn't illegal, but it sure is immoral
| xptek wrote on Thu, 30 March 2006 13:00 |
If companies get enough complaints, they'll eventually look at it. They don't care about your feelings (neither do I!), but if enough people contact them telling them they won't buy from them because of their telemarketing, they may considering dropping it if they're losing money.
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Yeah, just like a factory will recall a defective/dangerous product only if they're going to lose money out of it. It's true, but is it morally right? I say no. Call me an idealist, but that's the way I see things.
| xptek wrote on Thu, 30 March 2006 13:00 |
Based on the lack of jobs.
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And what told you there's a lack of jobs?
| xptek wrote on Thu, 30 March 2006 13:00 |
I don't know, generally when you're slandering an entire group of people, there's at least one person that's going to have a problem with it.
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You know, I'm sure telemarketers are fine people, when they're not telemarketing. I could meet a telemarketer on the street and not notice, or care. He could be a great guy. It's on the job I can't stand them. I suppose you could say it's not the people I hate as much as the act of telemarketing. I cannot stand being called by a telemarketer, since whatever I'm doing is almost always more important than hearing about car insurance.
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| Re: OT: What do you do to sales people on the phone? [message #194478 is a reply to message #194036] |
Thu, 30 March 2006 12:25 |
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And what told you there's a lack of jobs?
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The lack of jobs. As in.. there's not enough jobs to justify quitting my current one. Capiche?
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It's on the job I can't stand them I suppose you could say it's not the people I hate as much as the act of telemarketing.
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I honestly can't stand being called by a telemarketer either, but if you're kind to the people and politely ask them to place you on the do not call list, and then maybe say "thank you" after they say okay, the calls will get a lot less frequent.
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| Re: OT: What do you do to sales people on the phone? [message #194480 is a reply to message #194478] |
Thu, 30 March 2006 12:38 |
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| xptek wrote on Thu, 30 March 2006 15:25 |
The lack of jobs. As in.. there's not enough jobs to justify quitting my current one. Capiche?
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I'm sure there are, just jobs you aren't willing to do. For example, in my first job I was a bag boy at an Albertsons by my house, and I only earned $7/hr. But it was still a job.
| xptek wrote on Thu, 30 March 2006 15:25 |
I honestly can't stand being called by a telemarketer either, but if you're kind to the people and politely ask them to place you on the do not call list, and then maybe say "thank you" after they say okay, the calls will get a lot less frequent.
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I doubt it. Putting personal experiances aside, I've read in this topic that (some) telemarketers are trained to heckle you until your third rebuttle. I've gone up to eight rebuttles before hanging up on telemarketers before. Telemarketers are salesmen, and salesmen are trained to get to the sale at all costs.
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| Re: OT: What do you do to sales people on the phone? [message #194481 is a reply to message #194475] |
Thu, 30 March 2006 12:39 |
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That part's fine. It's the part where people who actually do work get paid chicken shit, while cushy office jobs get higher wages. Being an "administrator" and twiddling your thumbs gets you an even higher wage. Do you see the problem yet?
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Honestly? No. Most likely they earned that position.
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The "easiest, cheapest, and most effective" would be subliminal messenging and brainwashing, but that happens to be illegal in most countries, because it's something called "immoral". Morality comes to play with business practices, and advertisement is no differant.
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Calling you on the phone and offering a product is not immoral.
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Perhaps they can tell me about their product in some way that doesn't interupt whatever it is I'm doing. On a billboard, let's say. The company owns that billboard. It can do whatever it wants on it. What right does this company have to bother me in the privacy of my own house?
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They own a phone line, don't they? That gives them the right to make phone calls. Just as owning a billboard gives them the right to post their advertisement.
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| Re: OT: What do you do to sales people on the phone? [message #194484 is a reply to message #194480] |
Thu, 30 March 2006 12:42 |
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| Dover wrote on Thu, 30 March 2006 14:38 |
| xptek wrote on Thu, 30 March 2006 15:25 |
The lack of jobs. As in.. there's not enough jobs to justify quitting my current one. Capiche?
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I'm sure there are, just jobs you aren't willing to do. For example, in my first job I was a bag boy at an Albertsons by my house, and I only earned $7/hr. But it was still a job.
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Cutting my pay in 1/2 because of your moral concerns simply isn't viable.
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I doubt it. Putting personal experiances aside, I've read in this topic that (some) telemarketers are trained to heckle you until your third rebuttle. I've gone up to eight rebuttles before hanging up on telemarketers before. Telemarketers are salesmen, and salesmen are trained to get to the sale at all costs.
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Eh, I don't know. Where I work, we don't do any rebuttals. Ever. So I can't speak for every company.
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| Re: OT: What do you do to sales people on the phone? [message #194487 is a reply to message #194484] |
Thu, 30 March 2006 12:50 |
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| xptek wrote on Thu, 30 March 2006 13:42 |
Cutting my pay in 1/2 because of your moral concerns simply isn't viable.
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I'm sure it isn't, but that was when I was in 10th grade, 15 1/2 years old, with slightly below average grades. I now work at a blockbuster for $10.25/hr. I'm sure since you're undoubtable older and have a prettier resume, you can get higher without engaging in immoral activity. I used to work at my mom's office fixing up their computers for $20/hr, for a couple weeks.
Not that I'm asking you. That's your business. I just think the world would be a better place if all telemarketers quit their jobs.
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| Re: OT: What do you do to sales people on the phone? [message #194498 is a reply to message #194488] |
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| xptek wrote on Thu, 30 March 2006 14:53 |
^------- 16. 10th grade. Slightly above average grades.
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...No shit? What company?
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| Re: OT: What do you do to sales people on the phone? [message #194500 is a reply to message #194490] |
Thu, 30 March 2006 13:40 |
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| j_ball430 wrote on Thu, 30 March 2006 15:02 |
They don't make the world a "worse" place. They're simply doing their jobs. Blame the companies for marketing, not the people making an honest living.
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Who are these "companies" I should be blaming? A company isn't a person, it's a collection of people, in this case, telemarketers.
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| Re: OT: What do you do to sales people on the phone? [message #194501 is a reply to message #194500] |
Thu, 30 March 2006 13:43 |
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| Dover wrote on Thu, 30 March 2006 15:40 |
| j_ball430 wrote on Thu, 30 March 2006 15:02 |
They don't make the world a "worse" place. They're simply doing their jobs. Blame the companies for marketing, not the people making an honest living.
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Who are these "companies" I should be blaming? A company isn't a person, it's a collection of people, in this case, telemarketers.
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A company can exist without labor. It won't survive without labor, but it can exist without labor. Therefore, labor does not equal a company.
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| Re: OT: What do you do to sales people on the phone? [message #194506 is a reply to message #194501] |
Thu, 30 March 2006 13:49 |
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| j_ball430 wrote on Thu, 30 March 2006 14:43 |
A company can exist without labor. It won't survive without labor, but it can exist without labor. Therefore, labor does not equal a company.
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If you could explain how it could exist without surviving? Besides, if it doesn't survive, my troubles are done.
Edit: What the hell are you talking to about this for?
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| Re: OT: What do you do to sales people on the phone? [message #194508 is a reply to message #194506] |
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| Dover wrote on Thu, 30 March 2006 15:49 |
| j_ball430 wrote on Thu, 30 March 2006 14:43 |
A company can exist without labor. It won't survive without labor, but it can exist without labor. Therefore, labor does not equal a company.
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If you could explain how it could exist without surviving? Besides, if it doesn't survive, my troubles are done.
Edit: What the hell are you talking to about this for?
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The company can exist on paper. It won't survive for long as the purpose of a company is to make profit, so it won't last long, but it does have the ability to exist.
I'm just saying that workers don't equal a company. A lot more makes up a company than just the labor. Therefore, you can't consider telemarketers as the companies themselves as you attempted to do.
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| Re: OT: What do you do to sales people on the phone? [message #194538 is a reply to message #194531] |
Thu, 30 March 2006 16:39 |
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So this is a thread about what I do to sales people on the phone, and I shall contribute!
Usually, I check the caller ID to see if the caller is "unknown", "out of area", or something else, I usually let it ring. If, by the off chance that I do answer, they ask for my dad. I politely tell him he's not around at the moment. They'll ask for another time that they could call, and I pull a random plausible time that I know my dad won't be around to answer. We exchange goodbyes, and it's done.
And so we can see we can avoid telemarketers while not coming off as a jerk.
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| Re: OT: What do you do to sales people on the phone? [message #194542 is a reply to message #194538] |
Thu, 30 March 2006 16:57 |
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After reading two more pages of banter, one question lingers on..
If the telemarketers don't give one shit that they're bothering the people they call, why should the people they call give one shit if the telemarketer likes/dislikes how they respond?
If you can call us whenever you feel like it, it only sounds reasonable that we converse however we feel like it.. then we all go our seperate ways.
Why try and insist that you're "just doing your job, and consumers don't need to get so upset", when in the same breath you're telling us you don't give a shit if we like you calling or not.
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| Re: OT: What do you do to sales people on the phone? [message #194557 is a reply to message #194542] |
Thu, 30 March 2006 20:40 |
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| msgtpain wrote on Thu, 30 March 2006 18:57 |
After reading two more pages of banter, one question lingers on..
If the telemarketers don't give one shit that they're bothering the people they call, why should the people they call give one shit if the telemarketer likes/dislikes how they respond?
If you can call us whenever you feel like it, it only sounds reasonable that we converse however we feel like it.. then we all go our seperate ways.
Why try and insist that you're "just doing your job, and consumers don't need to get so upset", when in the same breath you're telling us you don't give a shit if we like you calling or not.
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If someone is genuinely upset, I do care, and I'll apologize and remove them from the list. But, more often than not you get people being complete assholes, and I generally treat them as such.
Haha, I think I'd snap if I was on support. Those poor people look like zombies.
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