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Leadtek 6600GT Random Lockups [message #191246]

Sat, 25 February 2006 22:58

Aircraftkiller
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These only started today, but I suspect it has something to do with a driver issue or perhaps a lack of power to the card. I'll be playing Renegade (Haven't tried it with other games since my wireless router only works well with it online) and suddenly the game just locks up out of nowhere, always right after someone's typed something. It's happened twice so far, and causes the entire system to freeze. I have to shut down the computer via the power button - I checked its temperature both times and it runs at 37 degrees Celsius, which seems to be pretty normal.

I'll try seeing if there's a newer version of the Forceware drivers I can install, and then change the power connection since it's using a line that's connected to a pair of hard drives.

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Re: Leadtek 6600GT Random Lockups [message #191247 is a reply to message #191246]

Sat, 25 February 2006 23:02

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Graphics cards will cool down very fast, checking it AFTER a reboot isn't all that accurate..
What's the 12v rating on your PSU? What brand is it?

I'd do a fresh install of your graphics card drivers. It's either your drivers, or a lack of power.

EDIT: Your PSU is fine, it's probably definately the drivers. Do this:

1. Uninstall your drivers
2. Go into safemode, use DriverCleaner Pro to completely uninstall them.
3. Boot up into regular mode, reinstall graphics card drivers.
4. End.

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[Updated on: Sat, 25 February 2006 23:04]

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Re: Leadtek 6600GT Random Lockups [message #191248 is a reply to message #191246]

Sat, 25 February 2006 23:09

Spice
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My PC would do it all of the time, I localized it to my Power supply unit. I still have replaced it, but rather downgraded my PC to prevent futher lock-ups.

I could instantly tell my PC was not getting the required power by how slow my fans were spinning. When I downgraded, they went back up to speed.

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Re: Leadtek 6600GT Random Lockups [message #191250 is a reply to message #191246]

Sat, 25 February 2006 23:23

Renx
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He has a PCP&C, that part is fine.

Open the temperature screen and leave it running in the background, then open a game and play for five minutes or so, then alt-tab out and check the what the temp is immediately after the game minimizes.

If it's not a problem with the drivers then you could always RMA your card. From what I hear leadtek isn't supposed to be that great of a brand anyway

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Re: Leadtek 6600GT Random Lockups [message #191252 is a reply to message #191246]

Sat, 25 February 2006 23:45

icedog90
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I have a Leadtek 6800, no problems here. I was even able to unlock the pipelines to 16 just fine. Seems like a good brand to me.

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Re: Leadtek 6600GT Random Lockups [message #191254 is a reply to message #191246]

Sun, 26 February 2006 00:05

Aircraftkiller
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Actually, I forgot to mention that I've played Renegade earlier with 4x AF, like usual with the new setup, and I've checked the temperatures just to make sure while I was in-game... Never wavered from 40C or so.

I just uninstalled the drivers via that driver uninstallation program in safe mode, and the card has its own power cord running to it without being plugged into anything else. I doubt it's my PSU considering I bought a PC Power & Cooling 410w a few weeks ago.

[Updated on: Sun, 26 February 2006 00:07]

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Re: Leadtek 6600GT Random Lockups [message #191256 is a reply to message #191254]

Sun, 26 February 2006 00:51

dal11
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All geforce cards have horrid performance with AA on. Unless you plan on getting a 7800GTX turning it off will help alot. One thing you might want to check is the CPU temp, it can cause random lockups also when it overheats, if it's an Intel P4 it could be a possibility. And there's nothing wrong with leadtek cards, they are as good as any out there.

O_o

[Updated on: Sun, 26 February 2006 00:53]

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Re: Leadtek 6600GT Random Lockups [message #191257 is a reply to message #191246]

Sun, 26 February 2006 01:03

Scythar
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Yeah it's not a GPU temperature issue, the 6000-series can take quite a bit of heat before failing...my 6800GT runs at 50-60C, but it worked fine about half a year ago in 95C when one of the fans broke and it took me a while to replace it. (It actually peaked at over 100C couple of times)

If your PSU manages to do 18 Amps or more on the -12V rail, it's not the problem either.

If new drivers won't help , I'd bet it's just sloppy Renegade code. It crashes every once in a while for me too, for both laptop and desktop (6800GT & 6800). I've seen weird things like corrupted message area (the place on top where kills and messages show up) and misplaced textures before on both systems...

PS: Dal, I disagree, mine works fine with 4x or 8x in most games. Razz

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Re: Leadtek 6600GT Random Lockups [message #191259 is a reply to message #191246]

Sun, 26 February 2006 01:28

Aircraftkiller
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I said AF, not AA... I hate blurry text, so I keep AA off. The effect it gives to me is minimal for the FPS loss it creates. I prefer texture filtering since it makes everything nice and crisp.

Just played about four games in a row, peaked at 45 Celsius without an issue after Nineball's help. I appreciate it!

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Re: Leadtek 6600GT Random Lockups [message #191260 is a reply to message #191246]

Sun, 26 February 2006 01:51

Nineball
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It's no problem, really.
Do what I said whenever you replace your current graphics card with a new one, too. Otherwise, you could end up having this happen again

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Re: Leadtek 6600GT Random Lockups [message #191264 is a reply to message #191256]

Sun, 26 February 2006 02:07

icedog90
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dal11 wrote on Sat, 25 February 2006 23:51

All geforce cards have horrid performance with AA on. Unless you plan on getting a 7800GTX turning it off will help alot. One thing you might want to check is the CPU temp, it can cause random lockups also when it overheats, if it's an Intel P4 it could be a possibility. And there's nothing wrong with leadtek cards, they are as good as any out there.

When I turn on AA I never lose more than like 5 FPS in any game.

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Re: Leadtek 6600GT Random Lockups [message #191268 is a reply to message #191264]

Sun, 26 February 2006 03:09

dal11
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Weird must be my settings then. I've never had an nvidia card do well with AA. Whats That

Whats That

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Re: Leadtek 6600GT Random Lockups [message #191286 is a reply to message #191246]

Sun, 26 February 2006 07:47

Renx
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I get over 75 fps in renegade with 8xAA and 16xAF, must just be your settings Razz

Razz

Also it could be caused by both the game and the drivers running AA/AF at the same time. If you're running AA/AF from ingame, your profile for that game should have them set to Application controlled. If you prefer to run AA/AF from the drivers, it should be turned off in the game.

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Re: Leadtek 6600GT Random Lockups [message #191301 is a reply to message #191246]

Sun, 26 February 2006 10:44

Dave Anderson
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How do you check the temperature of a certain peice of hardware is running? If it is software, can someone reccomend a program for me?

EDIT: I found a program called Hmonitor...but it only detects the temperature of my hard drive which is running at 37°C.

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[Updated on: Sun, 26 February 2006 11:06]

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Re: Leadtek 6600GT Random Lockups [message #191305 is a reply to message #191246]

Sun, 26 February 2006 12:10

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You are one of the lucky ones ACK. I've had 2 6600GT's, both faulty. I'm now using an ATI x850XT.

The random lock ups are a known issue with the 6600 series. There is a 63 page long thread on the official nvidia forums about the 6600 locking up, and no set solution:

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=1029

So yea, I'm an ATI man now. Smile

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Re: Leadtek 6600GT Random Lockups [message #191312 is a reply to message #191246]

Sun, 26 February 2006 13:14

Aircraftkiller
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I don't know if I'm lucky or not, I just pay attention to reader reviews and the egg rating and how many ratings something was given when I look for new hardware on Newegg.com

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E168141222 06

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Re: Leadtek 6600GT Random Lockups [message #191314 is a reply to message #191305]

Sun, 26 February 2006 13:26

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Tycow wrote on Sun, 26 February 2006 13:10

You are one of the lucky ones ACK. I've had 2 6600GT's, both faulty. I'm now using an ATI x850XT.

The random lock ups are a known issue with the 6600 series. There is a 63 page long thread on the official nvidia forums about the 6600 locking up, and no set solution:

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=1029

So yea, I'm an ATI man now. Smile

Smile

I have a 6600GT and haven't had it freeze outright on me yet...then again I have only had it for a few months Smile

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Re: Leadtek 6600GT Random Lockups [message #191344 is a reply to message #191246]

Sun, 26 February 2006 19:37

Aircraftkiller
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Apparently it still locks up now. I left the system on and went out to dinner with Sarah about five hours ago, came back just now and saw the screen frozen on my starfield screen saver. Computer refused to respond like usual.

I'll read through that nVidia forum thread and see if something there will help.

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Re: Leadtek 6600GT Random Lockups [message #191345 is a reply to message #191246]

Sun, 26 February 2006 19:40

Renx
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Try disabling fastwrites through the BIOS

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Re: Leadtek 6600GT Random Lockups [message #191357 is a reply to message #191246]

Sun, 26 February 2006 23:02

Aircraftkiller
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It's a Dell system so it doesn't have that option, but I did disable FastWrites through RivaTuner. It seems to be running stable.

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Re: Leadtek 6600GT Random Lockups [message #191378 is a reply to message #191246]

Mon, 27 February 2006 09:58

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I've got an EVGA 6600GT PCI-E and I've never had any troubles of any kind with it. Maybe it's remnents of your old drivers? I know it's probably not too plausible, but given your current line of work, perhaps you should save up and buy a new computer part by part. I managed to save up about 800$ on a part time job in a month or two. You won't regret it.

-The ONLY Renegade fan to pee off a school.

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Re: Leadtek 6600GT Random Lockups [message #191380 is a reply to message #191246]

Mon, 27 February 2006 12:09

Aircraftkiller
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I'm getting an RMA for it and sending it back to Newegg for a replacement or a refund that'll go toward a 6800.

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Re: Leadtek 6600GT Random Lockups [message #191385 is a reply to message #191246]

Mon, 27 February 2006 13:05

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Good plan, I know people with 6800s, and they say they're fine Smile

Smile

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Re: Leadtek 6600GT Random Lockups [message #191390 is a reply to message #191246]

Mon, 27 February 2006 14:07

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If you can't get a BFG or eVGA 6800 ( they have the highest chance for unlocking to 16 pipes, quite large performance increase, I'll walk you through it on IRC if need be ), get a 6800GT if you can find one. Otherwise, just get a 6800GS by BFG or eVGA

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Re: Leadtek 6600GT Random Lockups [message #191399 is a reply to message #191380]

Mon, 27 February 2006 18:10

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Aircraftkiller wrote on Mon, 27 February 2006 11:09

I'm getting an RMA for it and sending it back to Newegg for a replacement or a refund that'll go toward a 6800.

You'll like the 6800. It's a good card.

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