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Dr. Lithius
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I'm going to venture a guess here and say that he's...nobody. Nobody important or even remotely relevant to the Renegade community. Just another dipshit who swept in, posted a few times on the forums, and ran off. Then again, my memory isn't what it used to be, so I could be wrong. I just don't happen to recall any particularly stirring posts he's made since before this topic.
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| Re: Thank You Crimson [message #188929 is a reply to message #188546] |
Wed, 08 February 2006 09:24 |
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I just don't happen to recall any particularly stirring posts he's made since before this topic.
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That's because "Ive been around since the release/demo/beta" is just a lame excuse that dipshits love to use when they do something retarded and ruin their integrity. It never works because those of us who actually HAVE been around that long just don't give a flying fuck.
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| Re: Thank You Crimson [message #189055 is a reply to message #188673] |
Wed, 08 February 2006 21:30 |
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Dear Crimson,
Hello. You may not know me. And I may not know you. I do know a certain Snip though. As a fellow operator at a server he is an operator at, I was shocked to learn that he was banned from renegade. I knew he would never cheat, as the guy I know would never ever cheat. He is one of the most respected players I know. So when he told me that he was banned for spamming a bot, when bots are banned from even showing up, I thought it was very weird.
I also find it weird that most of you people here consider renguard to be the greatest thing since sliced bread. Do you realize that we have seen people get around renguard? And what about the many glitches that program has? Do you realize that I know people who have had to re install everything on their machine bacause of renguard suddenly not allowing them to play? Not only that, but when I was even able to get renguard to work, it DIDNT WORK. It would always say "pujols005 is not running renguard" when i had the damn screen up there and was logged into renguard. I feel that many of you place way too much stock on how good renguard is. It does its job some of the time, but it is very unreliable.
I finish with this: renegade is, sadly, dying. XWIS hasnt been that bad, when you discount that the clan page wasnt up for an age and a half. But I have noticed that it has mostly been good, honest players being booted lately from the game as n00bs take it over completely. I, for one, am tired of renguard continuing to be praised and of great players and people being booted. Snip should be allowed to come back. He made a mistake, but who doesnt? And also, bots are banned in the first place. Where was Crimson when the bot got on?
And to all the morons who think that snip is a n00b, I say this: stop just saying things to be completely loyal to Crimson, who also makes mistakes and this was one of them. Why dont you look at the facts for one time in your damn lives? If i get banned for writing this post, so be it. That will just show that dumbasses have taken over, because I am trying to reason with you here. In fact, I am sure some dumbass will reply to this post with their favorite putdown "you n00b". I say to that person: grow balls and tell me what you really think. Thank you.
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| Re: Thank You Crimson [message #189058 is a reply to message #189057] |
Wed, 08 February 2006 21:42 |
pujols005
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I completely understand that. However, like I said, we all feel very bad at Fnfall servers, and would like the guy to get a second chance. He is a very respected player everywhere he goes. I know crimson feels that he/she (sorry I dont know you very well yet of course) was just doing a job, but crimson didnt look at everything. Crimson ignored how much Snip HAS DONE for renegade. He is, in my opinion, one of the best moderators out there. He has banned many, many cheaters. And even with renguard, as I have stated before, we have been overrun by cheaters lately and have had to ban a lot of people.
I will understand if he is not unbanned..but at least consider what I have said. Thank you for your time, and good night.
ESOW forever!
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| Re: Thank You Crimson [message #189061 is a reply to message #188929] |
Wed, 08 February 2006 21:49 |
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the reason none of you know any of my names are because you stay in you little "renguard protected servers" where anyone can walk in with a renguard bypass and be praised as such an excellent player, because they have renguard on. if the mods of those servers took the time to test people even if they had renguard on, they would notice that some of them have cheats. Its not that hard. And no, a simple big head cheat will not work because only an idiot would use big head. I spend my time in the servers that count. the servers that have good people in them. I play in the Fnsrv, LTserv and EVO servers. the place where if you get one kill some n00b doesnt try and forcerenguard you. I have seen people in games with renguard that have gone through with 20 kills and 2 deaths, here i come in and i get one head shot. i get forcerg'ed. In the fnfall servers i have caught so many damn cheaters who have tried to weasel their way out of a test by saying "but i have renguard, i dont cheat" My responce to that is, if you have renguard and you dont cheat then you shouldnt have a problem with going through a test and supplying a screen shot. Do they do this? no they chicken out because they know they are going to get caught. My rule in servers is, you refuse a test, you are banned. Not to mention all the damned n00bs who have come in, cheated, taken the test thinking renguard will protect them, and fail the bones.ini test. So word to the wise here, renguard does its job for the stupid cheaters, the new ones that dont know crap. but for the few that know something about renegade and how it works, they get by it easily. This is where mods come in. All i am saying is get a better moderation team on your servers and you may actually achieve the once thought impossible, a cheat free server. And yes, i am sorry for what i did. I miss renegade everyday and i cant believe i was such an idiot for doing it. I am also sorry for the post i made starting this topic, it was written in a very angry state of mind. But yes, i do take responcibility for my actions. I am no asking for an unbanment, all i am asking is for the acceptance of my apology. Crimson i am sorry for what i did, The owner of the Xphaze Bot, i am sorry for spamming it i was in a childish mood at the time. all i can hope for is for you to accept my apology. Thank you
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| Re: Thank You Crimson [message #189063 is a reply to message #188546] |
Wed, 08 February 2006 21:50 |
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Oh, and just one favor to ask of any of you:
Before you put down snip, go to fnfall servers. Go to the IRC for them. You will realize how much he has done for what is probably the best sniping server out there now. He is far from "a typical dipshit". In fact, I feel the person who said that without looking into anything was the dipshit himself.
ESOW forever!
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| Re: Thank You Crimson [message #189078 is a reply to message #188546] |
Wed, 08 February 2006 22:42 |
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I was playing in the Fnfall's server today. There was a guy who was using big head and nothing was done about it. Yeah, great moderation my ass - in fact; that server is the only server i've ever seen a cheater, or suspected one in the last few months. (Though when a Nod soldier can shoot you 6 headshots in a row across the field on city and suddenly not be able to hit you for a full 5 seconds (Yeah, good going cheater, that wasn't blatantly obvious use of big head, shoot 6 bullets and stop) Not like it made a difference in the end. Why in Earth would you use big head and get 3 kills total is beyond me. Back to the point.. I've seen more cheaters in a non renguarded server than in any renguarded one. At least when no moderators are present I can actually do something about people who use cheats
Oderint, dum metuant.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
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| Re: Thank You Crimson [message #189082 is a reply to message #188546] |
Wed, 08 February 2006 23:38 |
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Most likely you were in the AOW server, correct? Thats the only server with nod soldiers. Anyway, snip and I have nothing to do with the AOW server, we are both mods for the sniper servers, and I can guarantee you, when we see something suspicious, we test for it.
ESOW forever!
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| Re: Thank You Crimson [message #189085 is a reply to message #189082] |
Thu, 09 February 2006 00:17 |
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Watch, I bet that nobody responds now that several mods have come on and defended the guy. It has to be a flamefest 24/7 in here, doesnt it?
ESOW forever!
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| Re: Thank You Crimson [message #189086 is a reply to message #188546] |
Thu, 09 February 2006 00:40 |
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First off, I have no respect at all for fnfall after my IRC network has been flooded by people from there so many times I had to institute a filter for "fnfall".
Next, this all has NOTHING AT ALL to do with RenGuard, and everything to do with someone page flooding someone else, so I'm not going to rehash that old topic except to say that only a fool believes RenGuard to be 100% foolproof (which is impossible for ANY anti-cheat) and RG 1.04 is on the way which will be the closest we've ever gotten.
If you all must know, I am having a discussion with the other Server Owners to put together a final rule list for XWIS complete with consequences. Personally, I felt that page flooding fell under the "no-brainer" immediate lifetime bans and there isn't anyone here (aside from you new guys who, I'm sure, came here to defend your friend regardless of his actions) who disagrees with me.
Now, there was never a rule stated that no bots of any kind were allowed on XWIS. And even if there was, this person did NOT go about it in the correct way at ALL. There is no room for vigilante justice. We listen to people who act like adults, not children.
And no, I don't know what this person has done for Renegade, but if you believe that "doing a lot for Renegade" commands respect, then why are you being so disrespectful to BHS? That's what I'd like to know.
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| Re: Thank You Crimson [message #189089 is a reply to message #188546] |
Thu, 09 February 2006 00:48 |
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The fact he moderates a server has nothing to do with helping the game Renegade. It just has everything to do with helping one server do what others could also do in his place.
I have found that testing is helping even less than RG (which has been bypassed but I'm pretty confident 1.04 will take the job back on). People use right click to cheat, left to not cheat. Or they have this magic button which turns cheats on and off. Good luck with your test then. Basically tests are as bypassed as RG, or even more.
There's only one way to go and that's your nose. Most of the time you can smell cheaters...
It doesn't change the fact that you have a xwis exploiting program AND you have used it. Noone is sure that you spammed a bot or a server. From the picture we saw, noone can tell. One thing is sure: you should take your responsibility for your acts.
I still haven't seen any kind of apoligy neather. You just try to justify yourself, asking your friends to come and post.
You can find me in The KOSs2 (TK2) discord while I'm playing. Feel free to come and say hi! TK2 discord
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| Re: Thank You Crimson [message #189092 is a reply to message #189061] |
Thu, 09 February 2006 01:03 |
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| snipgod wrote on Thu, 09 February 2006 04:49 |
the reason none of you know any of my names are because you stay in you little "renguard protected servers" where anyone can walk in with a renguard bypass and be praised as such an excellent player, because they have renguard on. if the mods of those servers took the time to test people even if they had renguard on, they would notice that some of them have cheats. Its not that hard. And no, a simple big head cheat will not work because only an idiot would use big head. I spend my time in the servers that count. the servers that have good people in them. I play in the Fnsrv, LTserv and EVO servers. the place where if you get one kill some n00b doesnt try and forcerenguard you. I have seen people in games with renguard that have gone through with 20 kills and 2 deaths, here i come in and i get one head shot. i get forcerg'ed. In the fnfall servers i have caught so many damn cheaters who have tried to weasel their way out of a test by saying "but i have renguard, i dont cheat" My responce to that is, if you have renguard and you dont cheat then you shouldnt have a problem with going through a test and supplying a screen shot. Do they do this? no they chicken out because they know they are going to get caught. My rule in servers is, you refuse a test, you are banned. Not to mention all the damned n00bs who have come in, cheated, taken the test thinking renguard will protect them, and fail the bones.ini test. So word to the wise here, renguard does its job for the stupid cheaters, the new ones that dont know crap. but for the few that know something about renegade and how it works, they get by it easily. This is where mods come in. All i am saying is get a better moderation team on your servers and you may actually achieve the once thought impossible, a cheat free server. And yes, i am sorry for what i did. I miss renegade everyday and i cant believe i was such an idiot for doing it. I am also sorry for the post i made starting this topic, it was written in a very angry state of mind. But yes, i do take responcibility for my actions. I am no asking for an unbanment, all i am asking is for the acceptance of my apology. Crimson i am sorry for what i did, The owner of the Xphaze Bot, i am sorry for spamming it i was in a childish mood at the time. all i can hope for is for you to accept my apology. Thank you
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Thu, 09 February 2006 02:30 |
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| pujols005 wrote on Wed, 08 February 2006 23:42 |
like I said, we all feel very bad at Fnfall servers, and would like the guy to get a second chance.
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| Sniper_De7 wrote on Thu, 09 February 2006 00:42 |
I was playing in the Fnfall's server today. There was a guy who was using big head and nothing was done about it. Yeah, great moderation my ass - in fact; that server is the only server i've ever seen a cheater, or suspected one in the last few months. (Though when a Nod soldier can shoot you 6 headshots in a row across the field on city and suddenly not be able to hit you for a full 5 seconds (Yeah, good going cheater, that wasn't blatantly obvious use of big head, shoot 6 bullets and stop) Not like it made a difference in the end. Why in Earth would you use big head and get 3 kills total is beyond me. Back to the point.. I've seen more cheaters in a non renguarded server than in any renguarded one. At least when no moderators are present I can actually do something about people who use cheats
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If u find a cheater and no mods are ingame or on irc then get proof(like a screen shot or something like that) then !poll kick them and then post the proof at www.fnfall.com and it will be taken care of.
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| Re: Thank You Crimson [message #189113 is a reply to message #188546] |
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Like I said.. I hardly care, it's more of your business and i'm not going to waste my time just to ban some dickhead. Besides, what's proof? How am I going to prove with a screenshot that some guy uses big head? even if a guy did happen to shoot me behind a wall where my head could stick out, it could still have been lag. So like I said, I'm not even going to bother with it. Final renegade --> leave; Big head --> buy a tank/vehicle and hopefully aim for the guy who cheats and kill him multiple times and hopefully he'll leave in frustration of how bad he plays. As for pollkicking - it loses it's effect when a person can rejoin in few seconds flat. Hence why if a cheater was in at least a half rg.. forcerg is a more permanent solution to a problem, unless of course the cheater decided to be like any good player and not cheat. Yeah, right.
Oderint, dum metuant.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
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| Re: Thank You Crimson [message #189123 is a reply to message #189086] |
Thu, 09 February 2006 09:27 |
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He did apologise though. I do believe that he could have done a better apology, as he kind of attacked you all still, but he did apologise, so there is no way you can say that you have not seen any kind of apology at all.
Second off, he did not "tell his friends to go on here and post". I made that decision myself. I'm an adult, I don't need to be told by someone what I need to do. Snip is a friend of mine, true, but I also have a great deal of respect for what he has done.
Of course, that does not get rid of the fact that he did spam a bot, which is against the rules. Thus, I completely understand why he is banned now. I even stated earlier that I didn't expect him to get unbanned, I just wanted Crimson to consider it more.
If posts questioning things in a mature manner are going to lead to me getting flamed, then so be it. Frankly I could care less what people on an internet forum think, I just want to have Snip get a second chance.
Sincerely,
Pujols005
ESOW forever!
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| Re: Thank You Crimson [message #189125 is a reply to message #188546] |
Thu, 09 February 2006 09:33 |
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Just FYI:
Even if you're banned from XWIS, you can still play on *any* Renegade server which you have the IP/port to, via Renegade IP (or even from your Start->Run, or anything else which lets you run game/2.exe with command-line parameters). I doubt you could ever be truly banned from Renegade, unless you're banned from every gameserver.
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| Re: Thank You Crimson [message #189126 is a reply to message #188546] |
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He didn't attack "us all". He just attacked that one bot. The victim of the attack posted a screen shot asking me to ban him, and seeing as how a username of "RenChat1" could only be used for no good, the evidence was QUITE clear that this person had lost his privileges to connect to XWIS.
I'm the bawss.
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| Re: Thank You Crimson [message #189128 is a reply to message #188546] |
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Isn't it amusing that whenever some nobody wants to make a case, a whole bunch of other unknowns pop in out of nowhere to argue his side...and make all the same grammatical errors?
Somebody tell me if I'm hallucinating, because I could swear that all of these turkeys are the same guy just on how they type...
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| Re: Thank You Crimson [message #189129 is a reply to message #188546] |
Thu, 09 February 2006 09:47 |
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Well as far as I know, Snip hasn't been able to get on yet. I keep repeating, I know he did something wrong, and he should probably stay banned for it. But what I really don't like is that Crimson won't look at anything I have to say. It's not like im flaming BHS, I think BHS has done a fantastic job with renegade. And I think for the most part renguard does its job, it's just that I have always had problems with it, as have several other people. I know this is rare, but I would just be a lot happier if something was done to fix the glitches that cause me not to be able to play renegade anymore after a certain time of having renguard.
But back to Snip. I noticed that you unbanned all cheaters eventually on n00bstories, Crimson, on "amnesty day". Well, my question to you is how is this worse than cheating? I really don't understand it at all. How could blatant cheaters get off scotch free eventually, while this guy who is a great player and person spams a bot and gets the brunt of the punishments. Just please explain that and I will leave. Thank you for your time, and continue to do good work for renegade, because I agree with everything you have done other than this decision and some of the problems with renguard.
ESOW forever!
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| Re: Thank You Crimson [message #189132 is a reply to message #188546] |
Thu, 09 February 2006 09:52 |
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First off, explain my grammatical errors. I am in college currently, and in my first year. I am going for a degree in broadcast journalism, and so far all I have are A's in my English classes. Would you please state what my grammatical errors are, because I would love to know so I can fix them in the future.
Also, since when were only established posters allowed to post? I thought this was a "public" forum. So does this really mean that I would have to have been here since the forum started to have my opinions noted? I guess being a "nobody" means that I have nothing good to say.
Also, last time I checked, this forum wasn't an English essay contest forum. It was a renegade forum. If i miss a comma, that doesn't automatically qualify me for "moron of the year" award. On the contrary, I think it is much worse to flame and not care about anything that is being stated.
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