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Re: OT: Internet Explorer 7 Beta! [message #188678 is a reply to message #188614] Mon, 06 February 2006 17:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'd participate in this BETA run, but I sort of have a bootlegged copy of Windows XP.(Meanwhile, Service Pack 2 came from a legitimate CD. Go figure!) I'm pretty sure Microsoft would hold that against me.

In any case, the only things I have ever seen wrong with Internet Explorer are the fact it doesn't seem to properly support XML(?) StyleSheets and can't properly transparent PNG image files. Anything else...and I put emphasis on this for all you Firefox kiddies out there...does not bother me or I have not run across. Hell, even deviantART works fine in Internet Explorer under Windows XP.(Meanwhile, under Windows 98, it would freeze the browser 100% of the time.)
Re: OT: Internet Explorer 7 Beta! [message #188688 is a reply to message #188678] Mon, 06 February 2006 18:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I would just like to say that Firefox is a complete piece of garbage; it slows down my fucking computer randomly when I'm browsing, regularly deletes my bookmarks, and locks up after I finish downloading something.

No, my computer is not infected with a virus or spyware.

Fuck you, Mozilla.


Re: OT: Internet Explorer 7 Beta! [message #188695 is a reply to message #188614] Mon, 06 February 2006 19:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, IE7 basically copies Firefox's layout and some features. But I really hate where they put the menu.
Re: OT: Internet Explorer 7 Beta! [message #188698 is a reply to message #188695] Mon, 06 February 2006 20:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Firetrash copied Opera's layout. What's your point?
Re: OT: Internet Explorer 7 Beta! [message #188703 is a reply to message #188698] Mon, 06 February 2006 20:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Aircraftkiller wrote on Mon, 06 February 2006 22:02

Firetrash copied Opera's layout. What's your point?


Firefox, and it's layout is based on mozilla. Mozilla is based on netscape. Netscape existed before Opera was even thought of.


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Re: OT: Internet Explorer 7 Beta! [message #188705 is a reply to message #188614] Mon, 06 February 2006 21:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Opera has been around since like 1993 or '94. Probably around the same time Netscape came out, or a little later.

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Re: OT: Internet Explorer 7 Beta! [message #188706 is a reply to message #188614] Mon, 06 February 2006 21:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Netscape Navigator (version 1.0–4.08)

Netscape Navigator 4.08 under Windows
Main article: Netscape Navigator

Netscape Navigator was the name of Netscape's web browser from versions 1.0–3.04. The first beta release versions of the browser were released in 1994 and known as Mosaic and then Mosaic Netscape until a legal challenge from the National Center for Supercomputing Applications (makers of NCSA Mosaic, which many of Netscape's founders used to develop) led to the name change to Netscape Navigator. The company's name also changed from Mosaic Communications Corporation to Netscape Communications Company.

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The browser was, until version 2.0, called MultiTorg Opera and was not available to the public — although online documents show it at The Third International WWW Conference in 1995.[1] It was known for its multiple document interface (MDI) and 'hotlist' (sidebar), which made browsing several pages at once much easier.
Re: OT: Internet Explorer 7 Beta! [message #188708 is a reply to message #188698] Mon, 06 February 2006 21:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Aircraftkiller wrote on Mon, 06 February 2006 21:02

Firetrash copied Opera's layout. What's your point?



No point, I'm not some Firefox nazi. I'm just saying what I think of the browser.
Re: OT: Internet Explorer 7 Beta! [message #188713 is a reply to message #188614] Mon, 06 February 2006 22:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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God, these Firefox/Opera bashing or versus threads always come in and they don't get anywhere.
Re: OT: Internet Explorer 7 Beta! [message #188714 is a reply to message #188614] Mon, 06 February 2006 22:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You mean like most other threads posted here?

WHATEVER, FAGGOT
Re: OT: Internet Explorer 7 Beta! [message #188715 is a reply to message #188706] Mon, 06 February 2006 22:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Aircraftkiller wrote on Mon, 06 February 2006 20:20

History

Netscape Navigator (version 1.0–4.08)

Netscape Navigator 4.08 under Windows
Main article: Netscape Navigator

Netscape Navigator was the name of Netscape's web browser from versions 1.0–3.04. The first beta release versions of the browser were released in 1994 and known as Mosaic and then Mosaic Netscape until a legal challenge from the National Center for Supercomputing Applications (makers of NCSA Mosaic, which many of Netscape's founders used to develop) led to the name change to Netscape Navigator. The company's name also changed from Mosaic Communications Corporation to Netscape Communications Company.

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The browser was, until version 2.0, called MultiTorg Opera and was not available to the public — although online documents show it at The Third International WWW Conference in 1995.[1] It was known for its multiple document interface (MDI) and 'hotlist' (sidebar), which made browsing several pages at once much easier.


So you have pointes out that both had similar history's in that they were actively being developed before release (go figure) and that, indeed, netscape was released publicly before opera.

Thanks for backing up my point.


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Re: OT: Internet Explorer 7 Beta! [message #188717 is a reply to message #188714] Mon, 06 February 2006 22:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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bigejoe14 wrote on Mon, 06 February 2006 21:22

You mean like most other threads posted here?


Yes.
Re: OT: Internet Explorer 7 Beta! [message #188721 is a reply to message #188713] Mon, 06 February 2006 22:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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icedog90 wrote on Tue, 07 February 2006 18:20

God, these Firefox/Opera bashing or versus threads always come in and they don't get anywhere.


What do you expect? Take Fanboy Group A vs Fanboy Group B

Neither will admit the opposition is correct, because they already know deep down that they are right, so the only possible outcome is for the other group to back down and admit defeat.

Looks like an infinate loop to me.


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Re: OT: Internet Explorer 7 Beta! [message #188725 is a reply to message #188614] Mon, 06 February 2006 23:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have been using Opera some time now and I am have been very pleased to it. One of my friends said that he would go also Opera, because he got some strange virus, when he used Firefox.
The virus or something like that messed mouse pointer and it was totally out of control. He reinstalled windows, because he couldnt solve the mouse pointer problem. Now he wont touch Firefox anymore.
Re: OT: Internet Explorer 7 Beta! [message #188728 is a reply to message #188614] Tue, 07 February 2006 00:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You said Netscape was developed before Opera was ever thought of, then changed your argument to "Netscape was released first. so you proved my point." Opera was more than likely thought of years before Netscape was developed, but I can't prove that so it doesn't matter to me very much.
Re: OT: Internet Explorer 7 Beta! [message #188737 is a reply to message #188728] Tue, 07 February 2006 00:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Aircraftkiller wrote on Tue, 07 February 2006 02:08

You said Netscape was developed before Opera was ever thought of, then changed your argument to "Netscape was released first. so you proved my point." Opera was more than likely thought of years before Netscape was developed, but I can't prove that so it doesn't matter to me very much.



Ah yes i suppose you are right. I was thinking one thing and wrote another. My apologies then.


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Re: OT: Internet Explorer 7 Beta! [message #188918 is a reply to message #188614] Wed, 08 February 2006 07:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I use firefox, I have never had a problem with it at all.

Yes it will have exploits written for it, but what doesn't.


AT LEAST ACTIVEX IS DISABLED BY DEFAULT, Where Microsoft has only started doing that since SP2.

The best thing about firefox is that it is multiplatform.

Becuase IE only goes to version 5.2.3 on Macintosh OSX. Sad


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Re: OT: Internet Explorer 7 Beta! [message #188919 is a reply to message #188651] Wed, 08 February 2006 07:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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An open source browser is the worst idea ever, it just allows them to know exactly what to code around.

Its like having a lock and there isnt a cover over the tumblers.


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Re: OT: Internet Explorer 7 Beta! [message #188940 is a reply to message #188919] Wed, 08 February 2006 10:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oblivion165 wrote on Wed, 08 February 2006 09:59

An open source browser is the worst idea ever, it just allows them to know exactly what to code around.

Its like having a lock and there isnt a cover over the tumblers.



It's not the worst idea ever, it boosts community support amongst programmers and developers, allowing for hundreds of plug-ins to be created. It also generates media interest and expands the product's lifecycle.

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Re: OT: Internet Explorer 7 Beta! [message #188953 is a reply to message #188919] Wed, 08 February 2006 13:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oblivion165 wrote on Wed, 08 February 2006 09:59

An open source browser is the worst idea ever, it just allows them to know exactly what to code around.

Its like having a lock and there isnt a cover over the tumblers.


Then again, any exploits found can be fixed within minutes, and you don't need to rely on the maintainers of the closed-source project to fix it.


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Re: OT: Internet Explorer 7 Beta! [message #189100 is a reply to message #188614] Thu, 09 February 2006 01:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.x with all vendor patches installed and all vendor workarounds applied, is currently affected by one or more Secunia advisories rated Highly critical
http://secunia.com/product/11/

Mozilla Firefox 1.x with all vendor patches installed and all vendor workarounds applied, is currently affected by one or more Secunia advisories rated Less critical
http://secunia.com/product/4227/

Opera 8.x with all vendor patches installed and all vendor workarounds applied, is currently affected by one or more Secunia advisories rated Not critical
http://secunia.com/product/4932/


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Re: OT: Internet Explorer 7 Beta! [message #189101 is a reply to message #188614] Thu, 09 February 2006 02:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The best thing about firefox is that it is multiplatform.


So what? Opera has been "multiplatform" for years now.

http://www.opera.com/products/desktop/

It works on Windows, Macintosh, Linux, FreeBSD, Solaris, OS/2, QNX... Plus the cellular phone versions, Opera Mobile and Opera Mini.

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Re: OT: Internet Explorer 7 Beta! [message #189104 is a reply to message #189100] Thu, 09 February 2006 03:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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light wrote on Thu, 09 February 2006 03:38

Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.x with all vendor patches installed and all vendor workarounds applied, is currently affected by one or more Secunia advisories rated Highly critical
http://secunia.com/product/11/

Mozilla Firefox 1.x with all vendor patches installed and all vendor workarounds applied, is currently affected by one or more Secunia advisories rated Less critical
http://secunia.com/product/4227/

Opera 8.x with all vendor patches installed and all vendor workarounds applied, is currently affected by one or more Secunia advisories rated Not critical
http://secunia.com/product/4932/



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Re: OT: Internet Explorer 7 Beta! [message #189131 is a reply to message #188614] Thu, 09 February 2006 09:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It works on Windows, Macintosh, Linux, FreeBSD, Solaris, OS/2, QNX... Plus the cellular phone versions, Opera Mobile and Opera Mini.


Any idea if the cellphone versions would also work with the various versions of Windows for handheld computers? I've been looking for something to replace IE on my Axim, but wasn't sure from the description that Opera Mobile would work...


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Re: OT: Internet Explorer 7 Beta! [message #189167 is a reply to message #188614] Thu, 09 February 2006 13:26 Go to previous message
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Everyone is talking about Firefox, Opera, and IE, but no one said how is Netscape safe. I really would like to know.
On my old computer I used IE until it stopped working, so I tried Netscape, and other than large memory usage, it works O.K. Then I tried Firefox, and it worked good (most of the time), except when I tried to download something from the web, it would search the floppy drive first Dont Get It , so I inserted a floppy disk, and after I did this several times, it no longer searched for floppy.
I had one more problem. Firefox sometimes would not detect my Internet connection, so I had to run Netscape in order to browse the Internet, so I stopped using Firefox.

So, how safe is Netscape?


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