OT: It's now illegal to annoy someone online [message #185108] |
Mon, 09 January 2006 13:27 |
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Gernader8
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Quote: | Annoying someone via the Internet is now a federal crime.
It's no joke. Last Thursday, President Bush signed into law a prohibition on posting annoying Web messages or sending annoying e-mail messages without disclosing your true identity.
In other words, it's OK to flame someone on a mailing list or in a blog as long as you do it under your real name. Thank Congress for small favors, I guess.
This ridiculous prohibition, which would likely imperil much of Usenet, is buried in the so-called Violence Against Women and Department of Justice Reauthorization Act. Criminal penalties include stiff fines and two years in prison.
"The use of the word 'annoy' is particularly problematic," says Marv Johnson, legislative counsel for the American Civil Liberties Union. "What's annoying to one person may not be annoying to someone else."
It's illegal to annoy
A new federal law states that when you annoy someone on the Internet, you must disclose your identity. Here's the relevant language.
"Whoever...utilizes any device or software that can be used to originate telecommunications or other types of communications that are transmitted, in whole or in part, by the Internet... without disclosing his identity and with intent to annoy, abuse, threaten, or harass any person...who receives the communications...shall be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than two years, or both."
Buried deep in the new law is Sec. 113, an innocuously titled bit called "Preventing Cyberstalking." It rewrites existing telephone harassment law to prohibit anyone from using the Internet "without disclosing his identity and with intent to annoy."
To grease the rails for this idea, Sen. Arlen Specter, a Pennsylvania Republican, and the section's other sponsors slipped it into an unrelated, must-pass bill to fund the Department of Justice. The plan: to make it politically infeasible for politicians to oppose the measure.
The tactic worked. The bill cleared the House of Representatives by voice vote, and the Senate unanimously approved it Dec. 16.
There's an interesting side note. An earlier version that the House approved in September had radically different wording. It was reasonable by comparison, and criminalized only using an "interactive computer service" to cause someone "substantial emotional harm."
That kind of prohibition might make sense. But why should merely annoying someone be illegal?
There are perfectly legitimate reasons to set up a Web site or write something incendiary without telling everyone exactly who you are.
Think about it: A woman fired by a manager who demanded sexual favors wants to blog about it without divulging her full name. An aspiring pundit hopes to set up the next Suck.com. A frustrated citizen wants to send e-mail describing corruption in local government without worrying about reprisals.
In each of those three cases, someone's probably going to be annoyed. That's enough to make the action a crime. (The Justice Department won't file charges in every case, of course, but trusting prosecutorial discretion is hardly reassuring.)
Clinton Fein, a San Francisco resident who runs the Annoy.com site, says a feature permitting visitors to send obnoxious and profane postcards through e-mail could be imperiled.
"Who decides what's annoying? That's the ultimate question," Fein said. He added: "If you send an annoying message via the United States Post Office, do you have to reveal your identity?"
Fein once sued to overturn part of the Communications Decency Act that outlawed transmitting indecent material "with intent to annoy." But the courts ruled the law applied only to obscene material, so Annoy.com didn't have to worry.
"I'm certainly not going to close the site down," Fein said on Friday. "I would fight it on First Amendment grounds."
He's right. Our esteemed politicians can't seem to grasp this simple point, but the First Amendment protects our right to write something that annoys someone else.
It even shields our right to do it anonymously. U.S. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas defended this principle magnificently in a 1995 case involving an Ohio woman who was punished for distributing anonymous political pamphlets.
If President Bush truly believed in the principle of limited government (it is in his official bio), he'd realize that the law he signed cannot be squared with the Constitution he swore to uphold.
And then he'd repeat what President Clinton did a decade ago when he felt compelled to sign a massive telecommunications law. Clinton realized that the section of the law punishing abortion-related material on the Internet was unconstitutional, and he directed the Justice Department not to enforce it.
Bush has the chance to show his respect for what he calls Americans' personal freedoms. Now we'll see if the president rises to the occasion.
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Re: OT: It's now illegal to annoy someone online [message #185147 is a reply to message #185142] |
Mon, 09 January 2006 19:48 |
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This is just one more reason to institute a presidential line-item veto. Scores of state governors have that power to combat pork-barrelling and underhanded measures such as this; why can't the President?
Damn Arlen Specter and his Republocrat cohorts....
Nineball wrote on Mon, 09 January 2006 20:32 | It was tied in with some Defense budget bill
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Re: OT: It's now illegal to annoy someone online [message #185178 is a reply to message #185108] |
Tue, 10 January 2006 07:55 |
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Yeah our government is pretty dumb.
Mindtzar wrote on Mon, 09 January 2006 16:18 | So much for the land of freedom and opertunity, eh?
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I believe that place died a long time ago, freedom is only an illusion in this country. I dont see how our country is anymore free than any other country?
America has more stupid laws and less personal freedoms than most countries.
Where is my right to protest without being beaten by a cop? Where is my right to smoke weed if I want to? (Is there a difference between being drunk and being high besides that the government regulates and makes money from alcohol?)
Where is my right to believe what ever I want to believe in school (not saying I have to make everyone else participate but if I want to create a group of people to assemble together thats my fucking right.)
Ireally hate this country sometime.
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Re: OT: It's now illegal to annoy someone online [message #185195 is a reply to message #185178] |
Tue, 10 January 2006 11:27 |
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sloth4urluv wrote on Tue, 10 January 2006 08:55 | America has more stupid laws and less personal freedoms than most countries.
Where is my right to protest without being beaten by a cop? Where is my right to smoke weed if I want to? (Is there a difference between being drunk and being high besides that the government regulates and makes money from alcohol?)
Where is my right to believe what ever I want to believe in school (not saying I have to make everyone else participate but if I want to create a group of people to assemble together thats my fucking right.
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I have yet to see someone, from my city, be beat up for protesting on the side of our busiest street.
Weed should be legalized, but any person caught in public under the influence, just like it is with alcohol, they should be arrested and fined. Same goes for impaired driving.
You can thank the liberals for that. Somehow religious beliefs are offensive to non-spiritual people, but barring (non-mandatory) spiritual activities and programs from schools is OBVIOUSLY not offensive to religious people...
This country is becoming more and more strict as the liberals continue to increase the size of the government, which ultimately gives them more and more power. You can't have freedom and big government. You have to sacrifice one or the other. Personally, fuck the intrusive government. Keep it small and my freedoms large.
whoa.
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