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Re: Patriot Act Renewal rejected by the Senate [message #182423 is a reply to message #182422] |
Fri, 16 December 2005 18:39 |
runewood
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When the next towers burn, you can thank the Senate.
"Don't try to be a great man, just be a man. Let history make it's own judgments."
"Maybe its not the destination that matters, but the journey."
"How many people does it take before its wrong? A thousand? Fifty thousand? A million?"
"Im not here to tell you how it is going to end, Im here to tell you how it is going to begin."
"Its not the end or even the beggining of the end, mearly the end of the beggining."
"Logic is the beginning of wisdom; not the end."
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Re: Patriot Act Renewal rejected by the Senate [message #182444 is a reply to message #182418] |
Fri, 16 December 2005 21:05 |
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At first i think the act was necessary. But we all know that news broadcasters dont give ya enough so I had to read some of the specifics. After that ive been against this act 100%. Yet this act does the job but it violates our right to privacy and our civil rights (and many other rights if you people can read laws/bills) and i know for sure that you guys dont like to be spied on.
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Heh. Terrorists are the least of your worries.
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Re: Patriot Act Renewal rejected by the Senate [message #182450 is a reply to message #182444] |
Fri, 16 December 2005 22:55 |
runewood
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Thats what they thought on 9/10/01....
"Don't try to be a great man, just be a man. Let history make it's own judgments."
"Maybe its not the destination that matters, but the journey."
"How many people does it take before its wrong? A thousand? Fifty thousand? A million?"
"Im not here to tell you how it is going to end, Im here to tell you how it is going to begin."
"Its not the end or even the beggining of the end, mearly the end of the beggining."
"Logic is the beginning of wisdom; not the end."
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Re: Patriot Act Renewal rejected by the Senate [message #182484 is a reply to message #182475] |
Sat, 17 December 2005 09:21 |
runewood
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Bush said that after 9/11, when there are no more attacks, we will slip back into the idea that we are invinceable. This is the first step.
"Don't try to be a great man, just be a man. Let history make it's own judgments."
"Maybe its not the destination that matters, but the journey."
"How many people does it take before its wrong? A thousand? Fifty thousand? A million?"
"Im not here to tell you how it is going to end, Im here to tell you how it is going to begin."
"Its not the end or even the beggining of the end, mearly the end of the beggining."
"Logic is the beginning of wisdom; not the end."
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Re: Patriot Act Renewal rejected by the Senate [message #182538 is a reply to message #182418] |
Sat, 17 December 2005 21:01 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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Don't worry, President Bush is illegally authorizing spying anyways.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/12/17/113212/10
EDIT: Oh, and gbull, why'd you say no if you're in support of the War in Iraq? (You still are, right?)
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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Re: Patriot Act Renewal rejected by the Senate [message #182580 is a reply to message #182572] |
Sun, 18 December 2005 07:49 |
runewood
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Well put it this way, under the Pat Act I felt safe getting on a train or a bus. Now i don't know, the guy yelling "I have a bomb" might be a terrorist and not a mentally challanged person.
"Don't try to be a great man, just be a man. Let history make it's own judgments."
"Maybe its not the destination that matters, but the journey."
"How many people does it take before its wrong? A thousand? Fifty thousand? A million?"
"Im not here to tell you how it is going to end, Im here to tell you how it is going to begin."
"Its not the end or even the beggining of the end, mearly the end of the beggining."
"Logic is the beginning of wisdom; not the end."
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Re: Patriot Act Renewal rejected by the Senate [message #182735 is a reply to message #182418] |
Mon, 19 December 2005 15:53 |
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NukeIt15
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If the Patriot Act made you feel safe using public transportation, then I'm sorry to say you've been riding on a false sense of security. You might try actually reading the Act itself, to see what it really did...
"Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. Horrid mischief would ensue were (the law-abiding) deprived of the use of them." - Thomas Paine
Remember, kids: illiteracy is cool. If you took the time to read this, you are clearly a loser who will never get laid. You've been warned.
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Re: Patriot Act Renewal rejected by the Senate [message #182752 is a reply to message #182735] |
Mon, 19 December 2005 16:47 |
runewood
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False sense is still better then mass fear.
"Don't try to be a great man, just be a man. Let history make it's own judgments."
"Maybe its not the destination that matters, but the journey."
"How many people does it take before its wrong? A thousand? Fifty thousand? A million?"
"Im not here to tell you how it is going to end, Im here to tell you how it is going to begin."
"Its not the end or even the beggining of the end, mearly the end of the beggining."
"Logic is the beginning of wisdom; not the end."
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