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What game do you all think takes the most skill?

I havent played too many games although i think a game like Counterstrike takes alot of skill.
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counterstrike takes a lot of luck. But I suppose it takes quite a bit of skill as well.

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Re: What game do you think takes the most skill? [message #181730 is a reply to message #181727] Thu, 08 December 2005 20:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Edit: Mis-read something.
Counter-Strike is difficult, yeah, but Halo PC has people who think it's funny to sit in the enemy base the the enemy flag waiting for their flag to respawn. Getting past that is difficult. Especially when there's no Friendly Fire.


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Most likely Counter-Strike. I don't agree with the fact that it takes a lot of luck. If it did, why is there a good variety of good and bad players out there? I have certainly seen how I've improved in Counter-Strike. It definitely doesn't take a ton of luck unless you just suck at the game and want to put in an excuse like that.
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I just started playering counterstrike not that long ago. It is really hard i'm getting better very slowely. So i suck pretty bad at it now. But i fined it quite addicting.

Halflife 2 sucks online. That is one game i for some reason cant stand.
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Half-Life 2 sucks online because it doesn't even have an online mode, unless you're talking about HL2DM, which is useless.
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Re: What game do you think takes the most skill? [message #181735 is a reply to message #181734] Thu, 08 December 2005 20:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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yeah HL2 Death match. I like games that have alot to do with Teamwork, like Renegade.

I'm not sure exackly what it is but when i'm playing Counterstrike i can get killed over and over again and it does'nt seem to ever bother me or make me angry. However when i get killed in Halflife 2 DM i feel like chucking my computer across the room!
Not quite sure why i get so angry at it, the 2 games have alot in common.

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There are probably some RTS's out there that takes more skill than say counterstrike. But in terms for FPS's it's probably CS. RTS require fast thinking and fast moving. FPS would be mostly about aiming, but like every game some strategy is required to be somewhat good at it. But yeah, definately isn't luck when if i first started playing, i struggled to keep my KD nearing 1. One thing is for sure; Renegade isn't up there on the list

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Re: What game do you think takes the most skill? [message #181748 is a reply to message #181727] Fri, 09 December 2005 00:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tetris takes quite a lot of skill...

It all depends on what you mean with skill... Being able to aim? To work in a team? To lead a team?


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When you guys say "Counter-Strike" I hope you're not referencing Counter-Strike: Source, because it sure as hell isn't hard. It's spray and pray. It really only takes dedication to be good in CS:S. If you know the ins and out of the game, you're not going to have to have a hard time being good. It's just like any other FPS. If you can aim and shoot, you'll be good, otherwise you'll suck.

In my opinion, a game like Call of Duty and Day of Defeat would require more skill than Counter-Strike: Source. My opinion does not mention Counter-Strike for the simple fact that I have yet to play it. I can't see it being really any harder than CS:S, but again, I haven't played it.


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FarCry looks very hard.

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dead6re wrote on Fri, 09 December 2005 09:53

FarCry looks very hard.

Looks can be deceiving. If you haven't played the game, don't suggest the game.


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I found the single player hard, because I was used to just run in going "LOLLOLLOOL" and shooting everything. That tactic fails miserably in FarCry. You have to employ a lot of stealth.
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I've only been playing Counterstrik: Source for only 1 week. And I got to say that I have never seen such a difficult online multiplayer FPS game.

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It's NOT difficult. Maybe compared to Renegade it is, but it's quite simple, to be honest.

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Re: What game do you think takes the most skill? [message #181777 is a reply to message #181727] Fri, 09 December 2005 12:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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CS:S is only hard if you lag.

CS 1.6 on the other hand, is a LOT harder.


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Starsiege:Tribes and Tribes2. Constant three-dimensional combat, every weapon save for one requires you to lead your target (and that one weapon robs you of all your energy after every shot, limiting mobility), tradeoffs for speed/armor/firepower in every armor class...plus, every team game requires each team to keep an eye not only on an objective such as a flag or a control point, but also on base assets such as sensors, defense turrets, vehicle stations, inverntory stations, generators, and so forth.

It isn't just a matter of being able to headshot folks every time so you can get more money to buy better guns, because there's more to the game than shooting the enemy. Thus, a skilled player has to master a wider range of skills in order to be useful to the team. The greater the level of complexity in a game, the more skilled you have to be to master it.

And yes, using that logic, it takes more skill to play Ren successfuly than it does to play CS. There's just more stuff that you have to know about (and know how to deal with).


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I don't see anything specificly stating that you have to reference an FPS. I think an RTS would take more skill than any FPS. I don't play any RTS online games though, I just remember trying a few of them, and it being very hard.

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Re: What game do you think takes the most skill? [message #181799 is a reply to message #181777] Fri, 09 December 2005 17:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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bandie63 wrote on Fri, 09 December 2005 14:26

CS:S is only hard if you lag.

CS 1.6 on the other hand, is a LOT harder.

What about CS 1.5? I've got that. Ain't easy. I don't play online because my computer doesn't have enough memory, but it still ain't always easy. Stupid camping bots...


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Re: What game do you think takes the most skill? [message #181814 is a reply to message #181727] Fri, 09 December 2005 22:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think I play better in CS 1.6 than in Source. The spray pattern is a lot different too.

Oh, and try playing with left-handed models. It's really hard and fun... and now that I'm used to it, it's second nature.

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icedog90 wrote on Sat, 10 December 2005 00:16

I think I play better in CS 1.6 than in Source. The spray pattern is a lot different too.

Oh, and try playing with left-handed models. It's really hard and fun... and now that I'm used to it, it's second nature.



I don't look at the model just the crosshairs. Frankly, I wouldn't mind if there was no gun model in the way.


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Try it, whether you look at the gun or not. It will feel different.
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NukeIt15 wrote on Fri, 09 December 2005 16:14

Starsiege:Tribes and Tribes2. Constant three-dimensional combat, every weapon save for one requires you to lead your target (and that one weapon robs you of all your energy after every shot, limiting mobility), tradeoffs for speed/armor/firepower in every armor class...plus, every team game requires each team to keep an eye not only on an objective such as a flag or a control point, but also on base assets such as sensors, defense turrets, vehicle stations, inverntory stations, generators, and so forth.

It isn't just a matter of being able to headshot folks every time so you can get more money to buy better guns, because there's more to the game than shooting the enemy. Thus, a skilled player has to master a wider range of skills in order to be useful to the team. The greater the level of complexity in a game, the more skilled you have to be to master it.

And yes, using that logic, it takes more skill to play Ren successfuly than it does to play CS. There's just more stuff that you have to know about (and know how to deal with).

Damn I used to play tribes and it was so complicated, after playing for 3 months I still didn't get it all. My favourite game mode was ultra renegades which was unlimited boosters and whatever the thing is called that makes you fly. Amazing gameplay...just needs decent graphics.


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