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NukeIt15
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GUYS holy crap, EA is a great company!
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No, it isn't. They have a penchant for pushing games out the door before QA testing is complete (read that: lots of buggy releases), they hardly ever do anything new (though the same could be said about many large companies, and I understand the reason behind that- but it sucks nonetheless), and frequently have developers hold back content that is later released in undersized, overpriced expansions.
That, and they bloody well did kill Westwood, and there are a great many people who do not like EA because of that- Westwood was essentially the genesis of the RTS genre, and produced a long line of very, very good games (RTS and otherwise) long before EA touched them.
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They've moved onto bigger and better stuff! I work for blockbuster up here and I've gained quite the knowledge about them and what they've done. Anyone heard of Medal of Honor? These games are amazing!
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Games aren't made by EA. Developers make games, EA publishes them (and very frequently before they are ready to hit the shelves). The developers deserve credit for the greatness of X, Y, or Z game, the publishers often do not. Developers make games, Publishers advertise and publish them and set deadlines. Got it? Good.
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How about you all get over the fact that Renegade isn't so popular anymore; if you like it, play it. If not, shut the fuck up.
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Ren is not the only gripe people have with EA, and if you haven't picked up on that yet you are either blind or ignorant...or both.
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Also who CARES if they are naming the new CNC game after CNC, they own the name anyway, it IS linked to that genre of series or TYPE of game.
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Juicy. Here goes:
LOTS of people care that EA slapped the C&C title on Generals. Generals ISN'T C&C. It has exactly zilch of the various qualities that made Westwood's strategy titles such as Dune and C&C as good as they were. The ENTIRE old and familiar (and easy to use) C&C interface was thrown out the window, as was the tech tree, the unit dependencies, resource harvesting, base construction, universe and backstory, and so on. In short, Generals should not be lumped in as a C&C game because it has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with every other C&C game.
You might as well take Starcraft or Warcraft and call it C&C. Hell, why not take Real War, Total Annihilation, and Homeworld, and throw them all in there too! Hey, they're all RTS games, so by your logic they should all be called C&C too!
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You're basing your opinions mainly because they stopped working on a THREE YEAR OLD GAME.
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I find it disturbing that you feel games are suddenly not worthy of being supported when they get a little old. People like you are the reason why companies like EA DON'T support their products. It is exactly your "newer is better" train of thought that pushes games out the door before they're ready, that produces steaming piles of crap like Generals, that kills good, solid companies like Westwood. And for some reason, you're content to suck it down and smile about it? You fail at life.
"Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. Horrid mischief would ensue were (the law-abiding) deprived of the use of them." - Thomas Paine
Remember, kids: illiteracy is cool. If you took the time to read this, you are clearly a loser who will never get laid. You've been warned.
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| Re: illogical sig 'fuck ea...' [message #173294 is a reply to message #168750] |
Fri, 30 September 2005 04:34 |
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Dreadlord
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just because they stopped making patches and didn't finish the clan pages doesn't make grounds to hate them.
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man, read my post again and think a bit 
you think Westwood's death was necessary? because it was old company with old games? Tiberian Dawn is 10-years old but people play it 
but now we have sucking generals instead of Tiberian Twilight...
and, I forgot. Red Alert 2 also shouldn't appear.
it doesn't fit the original C&C Story Line
Red Alert 1 - Tiberian Dawn - Tiberian Sun - Firestorm - Tiberian Twilight...
Westwood tried to connect RA2 with original C&C Story by creating Renegade 2. but this project died because of EA.
and, for those who don't know, the original name of Renegade was Commando...
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| Re: illogical sig 'fuck ea...' [message #173305 is a reply to message #168750] |
Fri, 30 September 2005 08:22 |
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And he actually would have resembled the Rough-'n-Ready, wisecracking, politically incorrect badass that was the C&C Commando we all know and love. But that's beside the point. Ren came out alright, considering the publisher. It wasn't quite the C&C-on-the-ground that we'd been hoping for, but RenAlert made up for that.
But anyway...
"Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. Horrid mischief would ensue were (the law-abiding) deprived of the use of them." - Thomas Paine
Remember, kids: illiteracy is cool. If you took the time to read this, you are clearly a loser who will never get laid. You've been warned.
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| Re: illogical sig 'fuck ea...' [message #173385 is a reply to message #168750] |
Sat, 01 October 2005 02:37 |
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the original Commando is much better than "that Havoc clown"(C) 10th CnC Anniversary.
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| Re: illogical sig 'fuck ea...' [message #173701 is a reply to message #173385] |
Wed, 05 October 2005 16:27 |
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| Dreadlord wrote on Sat, 01 October 2005 05:37 |
the original Commando is much better than "that Havoc clown"(C) 10th CnC Anniversary.
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Yeah i like the original havoc aswell. I wish i could be in the room when they make these decisions.
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| Re: illogical sig 'fuck ea...' [message #173711 is a reply to message #168750] |
Wed, 05 October 2005 21:25 |
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NukeIt15
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Well, at the very least there are ways to replace the stock Ren Havoc with Logan's model (don't ask me how, though!)...that was what he was supposed to look like to begin with. There's little to be done about the voice, though. One part good 'ol boy, one part spittin' badass, one part R. Lee, and one part Rambo. Havoc just sounds sorta nasal and sarcastic...
"Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. Horrid mischief would ensue were (the law-abiding) deprived of the use of them." - Thomas Paine
Remember, kids: illiteracy is cool. If you took the time to read this, you are clearly a loser who will never get laid. You've been warned.
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| Re: illogical sig 'fuck ea...' [message #176912 is a reply to message #168750] |
Sat, 29 October 2005 22:58 |
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EA is at it again, they have a "Greatest C'n'c Fan" Contest to exploit originality of the FANS! here's the direcct quote
"Once you submit any idea or material to EA, you expressly grant EA the complete and irrevocable right to quote, re-post, use, reproduce, modify, distribute, transmit, broadcast, and otherwise communicate, and publicly display and perform the idea or material in any form, anywhere, without attribution to you, and without notice or compensation to you of any kind. "
In short it means "Your work is now ours, you get nothing but a cheap prize and you won't see a penny out of your idea. You don't even get a place in Credits. We have officially PWNED you ... doesn't your ass feel sore now?"
Yeah ... fuck EA
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