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| Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #175404 is a reply to message #175237] |
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| Kytten9 wrote on Wed, 19 October 2005 13:56 |
We have both been smoke free for 18 months now (and niether of us are even tempted to start again)
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Be careful though. One of the insideous games that smoking plays with your mind is that smoking "calms you down" (actually it's that smoking wards off the nicotine withdrawal, which makes you feel jittery). What I'm getting at is that I have seen many people who quit smoking, start smoking again because something traumatic happened, and the desire to have a cigarette to "calm down" can be overwhelming.
My own father, who had not smoked a single cigarette for 20 years, when something bad happened one day, he stopped at the store, bought cigarettes and a lighter, and was smoking...AND DIDNT CONSCIOUSLY REALIZE IT.
Sadly, The best way to stop smoking is never to start at all.
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| Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #175410 is a reply to message #175237] |
Wed, 19 October 2005 17:34 |
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Javaxcx... I 100% agree with you about alcohol. I have zero desire to lose control of myself that way. I am much more content to be the designated driver. I can't say that I don't drink at all, though. I have one mixed drink that I like, and if I drink, I have one of those early on. Sometimes I can feel a little light from it, but the sensation is very similar to when my blood sugar is low so it's not really pleasant to me.
I'm the bawss.
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| Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #175448 is a reply to message #175246] |
Thu, 20 October 2005 00:11 |
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hey Blazer, your wrong, i like smoking and don't wanna quit 
yes, i smoke as a relaxation technique, and dammit, no matter what you tell me, first up smoke, after dinner smoke, and after sex smoke is just... godly
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| Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #175462 is a reply to message #175394] |
Thu, 20 October 2005 04:47 |
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| j_ball430 wrote on Wed, 19 October 2005 18:49 |
| Kytten9 wrote on Wed, 19 October 2005 13:56 |
so say for example you wouldnt normally have a one night stand
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Yes Jake have done that, more times then i can count on one hand too. But serious relationships always turn out bad for me, so I usually have 1 night casual sex with friends, if we are both single and both using protection I dont see the big deal.
And to put across a point to everyone saying "drugs are bad for you" DRUGS are found in nature, harnessed by man and cut with a bunch of chemicals which MAKES THEM HARMFUL, if you take the drug from the plant naturally it wont kill you unless you have a serious overdose, but did you know eating too many bananas overloads your potassium levels and stops your heart? Too much of anything is deadly, but taking drugs when you dont know how they have been cut is playing russain roulette (check that spelling!?) Drug dealers cut them with things like bleach and gasoline to create a bigger yeild so they get more out of less and a shit load more money. I can guarantee what they feed themselves is on the whole quite harmless compared to what they sell!
Blazer I couldn't agree with you more, I am very careful, but my baby girl is like a nicotine patch to me, I'm going through a very stressful divorce at the moment and I am not tempted in the slightest, I hate the way my teeth are stained from when I used to smoke and that is now costing me a fortune to put right. I have non-smoker friends who i can talk to and my mother too. I have a great support system (I'm one of the lucky few)
You have a God given right to be stupid. Please do not abuse this right!
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| Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #175474 is a reply to message #175237] |
Thu, 20 October 2005 05:44 |
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Drinking too much water (i think it was something like 20 liters) will also give you water poisoning and u'll die from it...
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| Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #175480 is a reply to message #175237] |
Thu, 20 October 2005 06:41 |
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SEAL: You rock. Love your insights and ideas, way to stick it to them.
Mrpirate: I want to try salvia really badly, I've heard its amazing, can you concur? And I love the fact that you can literally walk down the street, puffing on a salvia j.
To anyone who smokes weed, tryed snowboarding with it?  I love it.
I've tried shrooms, but it was so intense I don't think that I will ever do them again. I watched Fear and Loathing in Las Vagas and nearly broke down in a fit of screaming... I can skateboard amazingly better though on them, however.
Hash is very nice, its smoother then chonic  Tryed it?
To all: Drugs ARE a hot issue, feel free to put forth your own ideas and comments, but under no circumstances should you honestly believe and attempt to convince everyone else that your opinion is FACT (this applies also for everyone, anytime. We're just human, regardless of laws or ethics, there will never be a universal agreement on fact, imho )
I'm going to make a poll version of this thread, please feel free to post in it as well. Cheers!
Edit: Oh, just discovered that I can't make a poll, bummer  I wanted to see the results via graphs. Meh.
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| Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #175485 is a reply to message #175237] |
Thu, 20 October 2005 07:25 |
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To those who argue that people who have never tried something have no "right" to comment (ie. SEAL):
Give it a rest. Those people have as much validity to comment as people who are currently using the substance. The only people who seem to think otherwise are those who have done, and liked it. Why? Because they oppose you. I have never seen someone use that excuse when the non-user agrees with the user. Get over it, experiance does not automatically negate intelligence.
How something makes you feel does not automatically negate whether or not it is a good thing. It does not negate the idea that doing it is right, or wrong. It does not negate the idea that there is no other arguement to using the substance OTHER than "it feels good". There is no physical or mental advantage to using mind altering substances. There is no true social advantage to using such substances, unless you enjoy being only "with your own kind", which is simply nothing more than a bunch of people reinforcing what they are doing. I believe the busness name for these type of people are "yes men" (the ones who do nothing but agree with what the other person is doing, regardless of what it is?).
I ask this: Are you so inept at thinking, that you must chemically alter your brain so that you can accomplish this?
You wonder why people call those who do drugs "moronic", well here is why:
Moron:
A person of mild mental retardation having a mental age of from 7 to 12 years and generally having communication and social skills enabling some degree of academic or vocational education.
When you put yourself into that "high", this is exactly how you act, think, etc. "Cool, look at what I can do with my hand! Huhuhuhuhuh." "Let's see how much I suck at this game now!"
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| Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #175497 is a reply to message #175462] |
Thu, 20 October 2005 08:32 |
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| Kytten9 wrote on Thu, 20 October 2005 06:47 |
| j_ball430 wrote on Wed, 19 October 2005 18:49 |
| Kytten9 wrote on Wed, 19 October 2005 13:56 |
so say for example you wouldnt normally have a one night stand
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Yes Jake have done that, more times then i can count on one hand too. But serious relationships always turn out bad for me, so I usually have 1 night casual sex with friends, if we are both single and both using protection I dont see the big deal.
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No, woman, I mean that's what happened to me. Though, I am pretty sure I would have done it without alcohol. 
Edit: Warranto, for your information, the only that degrades when I'm intoxicated are my motor skills. I still show and use common sense, and I am just as coherent when intoxicated as I am sober. It was the experimentation that I found to be intriguing, not because I was acting like a 7-12 year old.
whoa.
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| Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #175508 is a reply to message #175480] |
Thu, 20 October 2005 10:15 |
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| SuperMidget wrote on Thu, 20 October 2005 09:41 |
Mrpirate: I want to try salvia really badly, I've heard its amazing, can you concur? And I love the fact that you can literally walk down the street, puffing on a salvia j.
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You could walk down the street smoking a salvia joint, but it wouldn't do anything because salvia needs to burn hotter than marijuana if its effects are to be realized. You need to use a pipe or a bong for salvia-related endeavours. And it is, indeed, amazing. Although if you found shrooms too intense, perhaps salvia is not for you, as--although the experience is vastly different--I found it far more overwhelming than mushrooms. It is, after all, the strongest natural hallucinogen. The first time I smoked it I became the bench I was sitting on. Then, when I tried to get up and walk away, it felt like my feet were underground and I was dragging the whole park around with me. If you're not relaxed and ready for a really absurd experience, salvia can be the most terrifying thing you ever do.
Warranto: A lot of drugs don't really feel good, salvia being a prime example. They're just... interesting. You'd have to try something like mushrooms or salvia or LSD to understand its worth, I think. (Although, and correct me if I'm wrong, I believe LSD was used--with some success--in treating alcoholics).
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| Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #175524 is a reply to message #175237] |
Thu, 20 October 2005 11:51 |
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MrPirate: Whoa, I can almost relate to your park experience, but still i'd like to try it, and now that I know what a shroom trip is like, I would try it again, but with a buddy that does it (the first and only time I did 2.5g at my buddy's house, we didn't have enough so he just smoked chron. He does it now and then, very rarely though).
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I ask this: Are you so inept at thinking, that you must chemically alter your brain so that you can accomplish this?
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I take offense to this. This is supposed to be a non-hostile thread, if you are going to continue to degrade others, don't post.
We don't smoke to 'chemically alter our brains' so that we can ACCOMPLISH things! We do it to have FUN, it's a different REALITY, like a seperate life if you will. We smoke for almost the same reasons almost as drinking does, except slightly different. It's usually social, it TOTALLY makes you apprciate EVERYTHING (food, sports, life in general) twice over.
Don't bash it, respect it! It'll be legalised soon enough. (In Canada anyway)
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| Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #175533 is a reply to message #175532] |
Thu, 20 October 2005 12:07 |
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| mrpirate wrote on Thu, 20 October 2005 15:03 |
It takes a few times on zoomies before one can be by oneself comfortably, I think... so I can understand why you wouldn't have enjoyed them. Also, make sure if you're smoking salvia to have someone sober spotting you, since for about 15 minutes you'll be almost completely disconnected from reality.
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Nice..
Well, my buddy who spotted me on zoomies, also smoked saliva and told me about it. Soo expensive though! I found shrooms to be absolutly FANSINATING though, during and after.
BTW, have you ever put water on your face while tripping on shrooms? Doesn't it feel like your face is melting/it never gets dry, or something weird like that? Maybe it's only me...
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| Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #175534 is a reply to message #175460] |
Thu, 20 October 2005 12:17 |
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| Goztow wrote on Thu, 20 October 2005 10:48 |
| DaveGMM wrote on Wed, 19 October 2005 16:59 |
I smoke.
Sue me. Mainly at parties, but hey. For those of you who dont like me, just take refuge in the "fact" I'll be dead before you 
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thank you for just giving us the main arguements all smokers give me... none: just be aggressive towardst he one that makes a logical reason not to smoke .
Seen this many, many times before!
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Agressive? Hardly. You're the one who is being adversarial here. I don't even know you, so who the heck are you to comment on my lifestyle?
I'm not defending smoking (how did you even infer that I was?). I'm the son of a doctor, I know what smoking does to people. I suppose I just find it a little annoying that people presume to tell me how to lead my life or what to do - or like you do, go "Well, here are the reasons WHY people in general don't smoke, so why are you still doing it, hmm?"
You seem to think no sane person could ever disagree with you.
Good job I don't posess something so stupidly worthless as sanity.
Go back to demeaning someone else, ok? I'm going for a fag.
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| Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #175543 is a reply to message #175542] |
Thu, 20 October 2005 13:00 |
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| Kytten9 wrote on Thu, 20 October 2005 14:59 |
So that's who it was then Jake.... 
and your idea of you being drunk and still having common sense is funny. You were talking to me on TS saying the most annoying things, being an ass to someone from wil0's server and being an annoying grammer nazi....
Oh no wait, you are right, there was no difference at all! 
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It was 3 weeks ago, so I don't remember exactly what I was saying over TS, but I do know that I knew what I was saying. Also, YOU'RE the one to told me to be an ass to engnst0rm, so don't be blaming that shit on me.
whoa.
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| Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #175545 is a reply to message #175543] |
Thu, 20 October 2005 13:09 |
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| j_ball430 wrote on Thu, 20 October 2005 16:00 |
| Kytten9 wrote on Thu, 20 October 2005 14:59 |
So that's who it was then Jake....
and your idea of you being drunk and still having common sense is funny. You were talking to me on TS saying the most annoying things, being an ass to someone from wil0's server and being an annoying grammer nazi....
Oh no wait, you are right, there was no difference at all!
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It was 3 weeks ago, so I don't remember exactly what I was saying over TS, but I do know that I knew what I was saying. Also, YOU'RE the one to told me to be an ass to engnst0rm, so don't be blaming that shit on me.
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I did not tell you to be an ass! I said wow you were really calm with him you must be drunk, because you would normally be an ass...and off you went typing the word fuck like 8 times in 1 paragraph
You have a God given right to be stupid. Please do not abuse this right!
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| Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #175548 is a reply to message #175524] |
Thu, 20 October 2005 13:14 |
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| SuperMidget wrote on Thu, 20 October 2005 14:51 |
We don't smoke to 'chemically alter our brains' so that we can ACCOMPLISH things! We do it to have FUN, it's a different REALITY, like a seperate life if you will. We smoke for almost the same reasons almost as drinking does, except slightly different. It's usually social, it TOTALLY makes you apprciate EVERYTHING (food, sports, life in general) twice over.
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Hey! thanks for proving my point!
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there is no other arguement to using the substance OTHER than "it feels good".
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And well, I don't think I have to point out that I never said "accomplish things", and that I said "Accomplish this", which, in the absence of an item, refers to what I had said previously. That being that it is done simply "because it feels good".
Kind of substantiates that "moronic" comment, doesn't it?
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Don't bash it, respect it!
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Respect what? Respect something that makes you act like a fool? Respect something that has an alters your bodies chemistry in a non-beneficial way? Respect something that eats at an income with no beneficial results? Respect something that is STILL illegal? Respect something that people become addicted to?
Yes... that is definitely something that requires respect
j_ball: I was referring to drug usage, not alcohol. Hence the "high" description.
mrpirate: being serious here, perhaps you could identify the difference between something "feeling good", and something being interesting.
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