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Re: EA Partners with XWIS Community Service [message #173880 is a reply to message #173743] Fri, 07 October 2005 11:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I didn't put any words in your mouth it is a very relevant question. im just concerned that renegade could bite the dust through all of this.
Re: EA Partners with XWIS Community Service [message #173885 is a reply to message #173743] Fri, 07 October 2005 12:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think this is very good!
This will shine some light on problems neglected by EA.


Re: EA Partners with XWIS Community Service [message #173887 is a reply to message #173743] Fri, 07 October 2005 12:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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well, my opinion is that BHS should have a chance to handle this because they really spend much time and money(RG servers for example) in the renegade game... also the great work about CP stuff which is there for all the players, all the commands we can use now what we couldnt before.
i dont know anything about XWIS but i also havent heard anything about their work on renegade... i think BHS should get an offer from them to handle it, and not just a 3rd party who havent done anything similar to this game...
I dont know much about how WOL works at all with all this games but i think to let BHS handle WOL for Renny is just only fair after all they did... (if they agree)

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Re: EA Partners with XWIS Community Service [message #173888 is a reply to message #173743] Fri, 07 October 2005 12:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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EA is not dumping the whole C&C franchise, It's way to profitable. I'm holding judgment until we see what happens.

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Re: EA Partners with XWIS Community Service [message #173890 is a reply to message #173743] Fri, 07 October 2005 12:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Your right they wouldn't dump the whole franchise still nothing is protecting the game that they have already abandoned 2 years ago. Generals and Red Alert 2 still make some good money for them however Renegade itself isn't generating too much new money yet it is expensive for them.

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Re: EA Partners with XWIS Community Service [message #173894 is a reply to message #173743] Fri, 07 October 2005 12:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If EA do not listen to your petition Crimson and they do not even give you a chance to handle WOL IRC for renegade (even though they should, you have taken responsibility for the forums and maintained them for a very long time now after EA stopped running the original "renegade forums. Also, irc.n00bstories.com has been running for a long time now and is almost the unnofficial network for many server owners to put there channels on. Not to mention the CP1 and the way it was implemented and distributed. And the greatest triumph of all.. renguard (although seriously 1.04 is over due)will you still put up your own clone of WOL IRC even though XWIS will be given controll of the existing WOL IRC?


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Re: EA Partners with XWIS Community Service [message #173896 is a reply to message #173743] Fri, 07 October 2005 13:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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At the end of the day if EA are going to dump us there is no point spending 3 pages complaining about it and slagging off EA, we all know they suck but bitching over it is pointless.
What we we should be doing is discussing what Xwis will or will not be able to do for Renegade, what they can offer compared to WOL. What possible glitches there are like the NAT issues that Crimson mentioned. Will BHS be involved and if so how much will they be allowed to control or what input they can have.
In principle it could be good for the game if the servers are alot more stable, the rankings are managed alot better for those that care about them. There will hopefully be a decent level of support available if the servers go down etc, somthing which isnt really open to us at the moment.

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Re: EA Partners with XWIS Community Service [message #173899 is a reply to message #173743] Fri, 07 October 2005 13:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Giving you an update on this issue.

Blackhand Studios is currently in a private chat with the Strike Team (Olaf and Don Carlo).. working out the issues, and making sure Blackhand Studios will be involved in anything that concerns Renegade.

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Re: EA Partners with XWIS Community Service [message #173901 is a reply to message #173765] Fri, 07 October 2005 13:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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genetix wrote on Thu, 06 October 2005 19:54

Fuck EA. Thats my main point. I no longer purchase any of their products because of their lack of support. If I want want one of their games I simply download it.
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Or to put it another way, if you can't beat them, go one step worse?


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Re: EA Partners with XWIS Community Service [message #173903 is a reply to message #173743] Fri, 07 October 2005 13:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This sounds like a wonderful idea. I wholly trust Olaf and XWIS and all that's been done for the RA universe. However, only as long as BHS can collaborate and handle the Renegade aspect of this transfer will I be satisfied with this transfer of power.

I only trust RA/C&C to XWIS, and only Renegade to BHS.


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Re: EA Partners with XWIS Community Service [message #173904 is a reply to message #173743] Fri, 07 October 2005 13:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think Olaf can do it fine without help.

Re: EA Partners with XWIS Community Service [message #173907 is a reply to message #173743] Fri, 07 October 2005 14:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Of course, you're right. A staff of two can certainly manage all the support issues that will arise that we already know about. :\

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Re: EA Partners with XWIS Community Service [message #173911 is a reply to message #173907] Fri, 07 October 2005 14:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I personally dislike this idea, sure its not ea but well...........

ea has a certain history for entirly fucking EVERYTHING up (glances at all 3 bf2 patches and generals/zero hour patches/support)

I really think wol was (is) GREAT, if any change is to happen i'd rather see BHS running the show rather than EA
Re: EA Partners with XWIS Community Service [message #173917 is a reply to message #173743] Fri, 07 October 2005 15:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dont EA run it now anyway under the WOL guise, if the changes where to happen wouldnt xwis and possibly BHS together run the renegade section together taking it away from EA ?
Re: EA Partners with XWIS Community Service [message #173923 is a reply to message #173743] Fri, 07 October 2005 15:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I only really have one problem with this - the swear filter. Bear with me, I have a point.

Was just in the RA2 lobby. Said the word "fuck". I now find I'm banned for 15 minutes from chatting because of this. Now if the game didn't have an inbuilt "Bar Bad Language" filter, there wouldn't be a problem with this.

While this is a small thing, it brings for me a larger problem. This means that we are at the mercy of a moderation standard by people who would be unaccountable for their behaviour. I don't mind not swearing, it's not like I can't survive without it, but my point is that they should be doing things the EA way - and to my knowledge, they didn't ban people for swearing, they filtered it client side.

But hey. I can't really do anything about it.
Re: EA Partners with XWIS Community Service [message #173927 is a reply to message #173743] Fri, 07 October 2005 16:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thats exactly how I feel Dave. We're no longer dealing with a corporation. Now we're dealing with just two people, and maybe abusive sysops.

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Re: EA Partners with XWIS Community Service [message #173928 is a reply to message #173743] Fri, 07 October 2005 16:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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They did ban you for swearing. In the first year Renegade was out I remember saying "Fuck" in one of the chat channels. I was serial banned from WOL for an hour, then a few minutes later my friend called up and asked why the hell he was banned from WOL(was using my serial).

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Re: EA Partners with XWIS Community Service [message #173929 is a reply to message #173743] Fri, 07 October 2005 16:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I remember similar things back using WChat -- you swear, you get banned for a short period.


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Re: EA Partners with XWIS Community Service [message #173933 is a reply to message #173743] Fri, 07 October 2005 16:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh the humanity, you have to last half an hour without swearing in a computer game.

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Re: EA Partners with XWIS Community Service [message #173938 is a reply to message #173743] Fri, 07 October 2005 16:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I didn't sign any agreements to censor my language when I joined up, so there's no reason I shouldn't be able to swear if I feel like it. It should be a client side option to turn on the filter if people feel the need to use it.

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Re: EA Partners with XWIS Community Service [message #173939 is a reply to message #173743] Fri, 07 October 2005 17:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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XWIS YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG JACKAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU CREATE XWIS F**K YOU BIG JAKAS YOUR XWIS IS BAD YOU WANT I WRUGHT THIS THE XWIS IS BAD HEY IS ONE YEAR YOUR PROMESS A RENGADE SERVER NAMD XWIS IN ONE COMMUNTY AND DONT JUST XWIS I TELL IT ALL REPLYER IN THIS FORUM I DESLIKE YOU

^I think BHS Should have control over the server. They have contributed many things, such as Core Patch 1, Renguard, and users (such as myself) support others in #bhs_support daily (well, we try!). Also, Strike Team/Xwis have admitted to not knowing much about Renegade, or about the community. So are they going to learn all about the history of Renegade in 2 weeks? I would wish them luck, but all of the luck in the world couldn't help you with that.
Re: EA Partners with XWIS Community Service [message #173947 is a reply to message #173939] Fri, 07 October 2005 17:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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havocide3 wrote on Fri, 07 October 2005 19:00

XWIS YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG JACKAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU CREATE XWIS F**K YOU BIG JAKAS YOUR XWIS IS BAD YOU WANT I WRUGHT THIS THE XWIS IS BAD HEY IS ONE YEAR YOUR PROMESS A RENGADE SERVER NAMD XWIS IN ONE COMMUNTY AND DONT JUST XWIS I TELL IT ALL REPLYER IN THIS FORUM I DESLIKE YOU

^I think BHS Should have control over the server. They have contributed many things, such as Core Patch 1, Renguard, and users (such as myself) support others in #bhs_support daily (well, we try!). Also, Strike Team/Xwis have admitted to not knowing much about Renegade, or about the community. So are they going to learn all about the history of Renegade in 2 weeks? I would wish them luck, but all of the luck in the world couldn't help you with that.



Agreed, Havocide...GSA/ASE simply DOES NOT WORK on my box...XWIS is probably going to end up NEEDING BHS's help...hopefully this isn't going to drag all of BHS's other projects down...us HT's CAN'T WAIT to equip our server with RG...however, that won't happen until RG 1.04 comes out...:S


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Re: EA Partners with XWIS Community Service [message #173949 is a reply to message #173743] Fri, 07 October 2005 17:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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RenGuard 1.04's progress has already been stalled a bit because of this, but this issue is more time-sensitive and higher priority.

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Re: EA Partners with XWIS Community Service [message #173951 is a reply to message #173938] Fri, 07 October 2005 18:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Deathgod wrote on Fri, 07 October 2005 19:34

I didn't sign any agreements to censor my language when I joined up, so there's no reason I shouldn't be able to swear if I feel like it. It should be a client side option to turn on the filter if people feel the need to use it.


This is how I feel whenever I get yelled at for swearing in a server by retards who are self-proclaimed too lazy to enable the language filter. I always hear "Hey my little boy/girl/dog plays this game, don't swear!" Well damn, I couldn't help but notice this game is not rated-E-for-everybody; what an irresponsible parent to let a 9 year old play this killing simulation, eh? Rocked Over And I couldn't help but notice there is a language filter! If they "don't want to see it" they should just use the feature that was put in to make them... not see it!

And that's what really grinds my gears.
Re: EA Partners with XWIS Community Service [message #173953 is a reply to message #173743] Fri, 07 October 2005 18:06 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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... and that's why my server doesn't kick you for swearing. In fact I encourage it.

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