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| Can some1 explain this plz [message #163144] |
Wed, 13 July 2005 14:19  |
Nightspark
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hi me again .... 
uhmz ... Mac has ever said this
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Cheating = fine. Since RenGuard will kick you anyway.
Bypassing = not. Anyone caught attempting to do this will be banned.
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Im banned cause its Detected ... So it is Detected, so why isnt this the same as Cheating ...
and Cheating in Renegade is Replacinga file ... what did i do ???
yes i replaced a file ...
but that replacing is bad and it s**k ...
but can you please unbann me ... i really need Renguard to play with my clan ...
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| Re: Can some1 explain this plz [message #163154 is a reply to message #163144] |
Wed, 13 July 2005 15:00  |
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RenGuard is designed to detect and disallow cheats. If you use it, it is the authority that decides if you play legit or not. Even if you have cheats, you can't use them, so you will play fair on servers.
When you attempt to bypass RenGuard, you intend to CIRCUMVENT this authority and cause mayham on servers, knowing exactly that you will disrupt the gameplay of others.
That's like.. bypassing security to plant a bomb, knowing exactly what you will do will cause damage.
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danpaul88: buggy bugs brenbot because buggy befriends brainlessness
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| Re: Can some1 explain this plz [message #163220 is a reply to message #163144] |
Thu, 14 July 2005 06:03 |
Nightspark
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Drkpwn3r, yes id think twice before i did it
but another thing, youve got to try something
i know for 200% sure that everyone who get the chance to cheat. they TRY it ... i know that you and another guys on this forum ever cheated.
but Mac, thanks that youve explained it ... i respect it
thanks
i wont bother you guys again.
but another thing, some one said that whe you take a new Username and a New ( legal ) serial, that you dont have a ban
i tryed this but still got the ban
thanx, and respect
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| Re: Can some1 explain this plz [message #163738 is a reply to message #163220] |
Tue, 19 July 2005 23:40 |
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They cannot ban you more than on the game serial. Buy a new renegade and use an other user name...
And I never cheated and will never do it!
You can find me in The KOSs2 (TK2) discord while I'm playing. Feel free to come and say hi! TK2 discord
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| Re: Can some1 explain this plz [message #169649 is a reply to message #163144] |
Tue, 06 September 2005 12:39 |
Nightspark
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well, i dont cheat very often this time.
But when i did, it was likely more as revenge.
when i was banned a few months ago, i went to this forum and asked for an unban, people laughed and shouted and ignored me, from that moment i didnt like the anti-cheat people.
This made me mad so i went learning cheats and that stuff, to take revenge.
But ATM there are two me's
1. Very very often playing renegade, like 4 hour in a week cause of my clan, and when my girlfriend isnt online.
2. A very familier guy in the cheat community that is taking revenge.
But when i check the forums these week, people are becoming more nicer against people,
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This bring back my good point...why cheat? If you have no skill and hate being noob for those couple months, dun play this game. Dont ruin it for other people
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this is nice ... hes asking why ... on a friendly way not mention to be sarcastic.
From this post one ... Cheat and Anti-cheat are equal for me,
- Both arent stupid neither good.
- Cheating is bad, im only using it cause of revenge.
From now on, im having respect for Mac, Crimson, Blazer and all the guys here.
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| Re: Can some1 explain this plz [message #169658 is a reply to message #163738] |
Tue, 06 September 2005 14:03 |
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| Goztow wrote on Wed, 20 July 2005 07:40 |
They cannot ban you more than on the game serial. Buy a new renegade and use an other user name...
And I never cheated and will never do it!
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How stupid do you think BHS members are?
www.myspace.com/midas
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| Re: Can some1 explain this plz [message #169731 is a reply to message #163144] |
Wed, 07 September 2005 05:32 |
Nightspark
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i did ... i tolled them about the bypassing stuff and i telled them my position in the Cheatcommunity ... they agree under 1 condition ... NEVER under the clanname
and yes ... ive admit i cheat ... and i also admit that im pretty good ... better then you think
and im still banned
but the point is ... i do like you guys atm ... so im not making a fight
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| Re: Can some1 explain this plz [message #169732 is a reply to message #169649] |
Wed, 07 September 2005 06:28 |
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| Nightspark wrote on Tue, 06 September 2005 15:39 |
well, i dont cheat very often this time.
From this post one ... Cheat and Anti-cheat are equal for me,
- Both arent stupid neither good.
- Cheating is bad, im only using it cause of revenge.
From now on, im having respect for Mac, Crimson, Blazer and all the guys here.
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Hold the phone... Where do you go off saying anti cheat isn't good? If by not good you mean not good for people who suck intolerably at this game and have to cheat to be even remotely good - well then I guess I can agree with that one stipulation made possible by you
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Cheating is bad, im only using it cause of revenge.
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What are you fucking 12? If you don't get it, let me put it this way. A car cuts in front of you and you go and ram him. So what are you going to say, "Oh well i figured it was OK for me to do it because he cut me off"
Besides the point maybe you should start pointing at yourself. You do realize that you wouldn't have ever got in the position where people would laugh at you if you never cheated in the first place. But please, go ahead and continue your childish rant. I mean you don't have a motive behind cheating the first time, right? You can't possibly blame it on revenge when it never happened.
and on the point of "trying cheats" I haven't cheated once in this entire game, nor have i ever intended to. I guess I believe in the whole thing where people play a game without having others trying to ruin it by playing unfairly.
Oderint, dum metuant.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
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| Re: Can some1 explain this plz [message #170172 is a reply to message #163144] |
Fri, 09 September 2005 13:51 |
Nightspark
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well, thanx Sniper_de7.
You and people like you are the things that start me cheating.
Look at your post, the only f-ing thing you doing is shouting, blaiming, and guess what ??
Who are you in this forumm i think nothing special.
So why the fck are you thinking your so f-ign great that you can play a big man, by acting like this.
This is the mean reason, people like this made me piss off.
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| Re: Can some1 explain this plz [message #170943 is a reply to message #169649] |
Sun, 11 September 2005 05:23 |
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| Nightspark wrote on Tue, 06 September 2005 15:39 |
well, i dont cheat very often this time.
But when i did, it was likely more as revenge.
when i was banned a few months ago, i went to this forum and asked for an unban, people laughed and shouted and ignored me, from that moment i didnt like the anti-cheat people.
This made me mad so i went learning cheats and that stuff, to take revenge.
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So when they banned you, your course of action was to prove how absolutely right they were to do so. Good idea.
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| Re: Can some1 explain this plz [message #170948 is a reply to message #170172] |
Sun, 11 September 2005 06:59 |
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| Nightspark wrote on Fri, 09 September 2005 16:51 |
well, thanx Sniper_de7.
You and people like you are the things that start me cheating.
Look at your post, the only f-ing thing you doing is shouting, blaiming, and guess what ??
Who are you in this forumm i think nothing special.
So why the fck are you thinking your so f-ign great that you can play a big man, by acting like this.
This is the mean reason, people like this made me piss off.
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Disprove at least one thing I just said. If you can't, maybe that's the reason why it pisses you off. I never said I was anybody in this forum. I'm a hell of a lot smarter than you, though. I'm also not shouting... I don't see how you can say my text is shouting at you. While we are at it, can you tell me what I'm blaming at, as well. No? That's a shame. I'm not trying to do anything with my post except teach you. Do you see anything wrong with cheating for revenge? I mean when you got banned and the people talked crap about you - instead of doing the right thing, you went and cheated more. Most likely probably not even against the people that talked crap about you in the first place. So the only people you're actually hurting, is the people who just want to play this game without cheaters. Maybe if you admitted you were in the wrong in the first place and that it was very childish to cheat because people - over the internet - talked shit to you, you'd get more respect
By the way, what clan is it, that you're in?
Oderint, dum metuant.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
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| Re: Can some1 explain this plz [message #171434 is a reply to message #163144] |
Tue, 13 September 2005 02:29 |
Nightspark
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@Kanezor : if some1 get owned, he excepted ... if some1 so hard get owned by a hack hes pissed of to.
@SNiper_de7: Why are you smarter then me ??
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I mean when you got banned and the people talked crap about you - instead of doing the right thing, you went and cheated more
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What was the right thing i could do ???
I did :
Introduce myself.
Explained why i got banned.
I admit i did it myself.
asked nice for an unban.
What you people did:
Laughing.
Ignoring me.
Playing the mighty Anti cheater.
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| Re: Can some1 explain this plz [message #171437 is a reply to message #171434] |
Tue, 13 September 2005 03:17 |
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| Nightspark wrote on Tue, 13 September 2005 04:29 |
@Kanezor : if some1 get owned, he excepted ... if some1 so hard get owned by a hack hes pissed of to.
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Yes, I would get pissed off. I wouldn't go use a hack.
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| Re: Can some1 explain this plz [message #171442 is a reply to message #171434] |
Tue, 13 September 2005 06:38 |
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| Nightspark wrote on Tue, 13 September 2005 05:29 |
@SNiper_de7: Why are you smarter then me ??
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My guess: better genetics due to no inbreeding from his family, plus this thing called "education" which passed you by, I suppose
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I mean when you got banned and the people talked crap about you - instead of doing the right thing, you went and cheated more
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What was the right thing i could do ???
I did :
Introduce myself.
Explained why i got banned.
I admit i did it myself.
asked nice for an unban.
What you people did:
Laughing.
Ignoring me.
Playing the mighty Anti cheater.
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We don't like cheaters and you cheated, deal with it. You went into some server or other with a bunch of hacks, not caring about the other 30-40 people in the game or the fact you were ruining their enjoyment of it.... just so you could get "revenge". And that revenge was this...
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So when they banned you, your course of action was to prove how absolutely right they were to do so. Good idea.
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Seems to me the server owners are very good judges of character. They banned you for cheating and you cheated. Didn't happen in the same order, but that's too bad for you: they were still right to ban you, clearly.
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| Re: Can some1 explain this plz [message #171455 is a reply to message #171434] |
Tue, 13 September 2005 09:42 |
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| Nightspark wrote on Tue, 13 September 2005 05:29 |
@SNiper_de7: Why are you smarter then me ??
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for starters? a guy who comes onto the forums and admits he cheats (when he could possibly have cheated against a person on the forums) and acts like we don't have a right to cuss at him, despite it being his fault in the first place that he downloaded and installed his cheats. Then gets a hissy-fit when people get mad at you for ruining games and starts to ruin more games (which, really never affected me any bit) What it seems like to me is that you got mad, because people - over the internet (i say this once again to make a point that people thousands of miles away should not make an impression such as the one it had on you) - and then decided to counter your bad mood by cheating so you could feel good about yourself at the expense of other people.
Anyways, you still didn't tell me what clan you're in.
Oderint, dum metuant.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
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