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| XeonTeam wrote on Thu, 11 August 2005 18:15 |
| Crimson wrote on Wed, 10 August 2005 17:31 |
Do you really honestly think EA gives a damn about the cheats? The only ones being hurt by the cheats is people who want to play the game fairly, and Blackhand Studios who has to do the work, and me, who has to pay out of my own pocket to support the RenGuard network.
And this is how you thank us?
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Every1 is entitled to their own opinions. So i wont flame you ova them. But nopic, you deserver it most.
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Your opinion has nothing to do with that. I swear to god, your intelligence is extremely low, and the way you type really reflects your intelligence too. You're hurting the community using cheats, and your reason for that is to wake up EA Games. Of course, it's impossible to even get their attention, so an opinion can't even change that.
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| Re: ok im confused [message #166175 is a reply to message #165896] |
Fri, 12 August 2005 14:58 |
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None of ya have complainedabout about ne of ma other 2accounts on here! I ave been on here for over 5months (not givin u an exact date) and non of ya have said a thing.Both of em also have server owners access, so ya must accept me on erein ways!
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| Re: ok im confused [message #166184 is a reply to message #165896] |
Fri, 12 August 2005 15:43 |
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It's not my opinion that I spend about $250-300 per month for the RenGuard network with very little help from the community. The work of you and other cheaters isn't hurting EA one tiny little bit. You aren't even a fly on the wall to them. Without people like Blackhand Studios, Renegade would have died for everyone but cheaters and turned into a cheater vs. cheater war with only a few servers up. EA's income from Renegade, if anything, barely covers the cost of keeping the WOL server(s) online. They don't care about this game and no amount of cheating ever will.
And yes, I know about at least one of your other identities on here, and I don't care. There are way too many people with access to that to trust that everyone is legit.
I'm the bawss.
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| Re: ok im confused [message #166196 is a reply to message #165896] |
Fri, 12 August 2005 17:26 |
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The more I think about this, the more I get pissed off. If mac decided to stop working on RenGuard, if v00d00 decided to stop working on RenGuard 1.04, if I decided to stop paying for servers for RenGuard... what do you think would happen? If RenGuard ceased to exist, what do you think would happen? I'll tell you. For a few days everything would be OK, but more and more people would take advantage of the complete lack of protection and every game would be ruined. A few servers will change to password-only to weed out the unknown players, but they would be frustrated by lack of participation and shut down. Other servers would just shut down. After a month or two, there would be like 10 hardcore die-hard servers online and every game would be a cheater vs cheater game... the one with the best cheats wins. And that's assuming there are any servers able to stay online through the cheaters and script kiddies attacking each other.
And what would EA do? Shrug, maybe shut off the WOL servers if they can even find them/it... used as a footwarmer under some secretary's desk.
Bottom line. They don't care. The only ones who care are BHS. When you fuck with Renegade, you fuck with us, and us only.
(And of course all the players who want to play fair, and the server owners who try their best to keep a clean game)
I'm the bawss.
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| Re: ok im confused [message #166199 is a reply to message #166196] |
Fri, 12 August 2005 18:05 |
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I understand you concerns, and even if i were to attepmt to explain my case (which im not going to), you would not respect any of the decisions and choices i may have made.
May i expect that my other account which is very obviously mine, will be allowed full access still? Or is this area so secret?
By the way, the style of language i have been using on this account, i have purposely made different and to an extent, sluggish.
You and i both know we have our own opinions and ways of thinking. I will still stand by what i have said, also i still feel that you (Crimson) are still the most adult figure out of your group on here and i wish that some of you would wear off on the other members of this community.
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| Re: ok im confused [message #166200 is a reply to message #165896] |
Fri, 12 August 2005 19:56 |
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And I wish that you and your friends would stop putting me and my friends through so much hell. It's just a game, let us PLAY IT!
I'm the bawss.
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| Re: ok im confused [message #166206 is a reply to message #166199] |
Fri, 12 August 2005 20:26 |
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| XeonTeam wrote on Fri, 12 August 2005 20:05 |
I understand you concerns, and even if i were to attepmt to explain my case (which im not going to), you would not respect any of the decisions and choices i may have made.
May i expect that my other account which is very obviously mine, will be allowed full access still? Or is this area so secret?
By the way, the style of language i have been using on this account, i have purposely made different and to an extent, sluggish.
You and i both know we have our own opinions and ways of thinking. I will still stand by what i have said, also i still feel that you (Crimson) are still the most adult figure out of your group on here and i wish that some of you would wear off on the other members of this community.
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Wow, the monkey bought a braincell. Thank you for shopping at Walmart!
Why should we respect you when you don't respect our right to play in a cheat free environment? You attempt to get the attention of people who no longer care about a game by destroying the game that means nothing to them? Geez, your logic is flawless. Why didn't I see it before, its so clear now!
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| Re: ok im confused [message #166221 is a reply to message #165896] |
Sat, 13 August 2005 03:16 |
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Alright, Xeon, suppose you do happen to bring EA's attention to Renegade? What will they do? You really think they would care about this game? They would probably think: "Oh, look! People are having fun playing that game online! Lets shut down the old WestWood Online feature, and make them all play on GSA! Or, better yet, lets make a recall of every single Renegade ever made!" Is that really what you want? You really want them to do something like that? If not, i suggest you sit down, shut up, and keep off our servers.
Oh, and one more thing. Stop cheating, retard.
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I've been Nodbuggered. =( =( =(
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| Re: ok im confused [message #166230 is a reply to message #165896] |
Sat, 13 August 2005 05:34 |
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Ok, you have no need to insult me and be sarcastic about the matter. My way of putting it is that i am either "Working for", or "Working againt". I will not be some sheep following the rest of the heared. As i am certainly not working along side the Renguard crew, obviously that must mean i am working against them. Maybe that would make more logic to the rest of the fools on here that cannot understand an in-depth thought.
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| Re: ok im confused [message #166242 is a reply to message #166230] |
Sat, 13 August 2005 08:04 |
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| XeonTeam wrote on Sat, 13 August 2005 08:34 |
Ok, you have no need to insult me and be sarcastic about the matter. My way of putting it is that i am either "Working for", or "Working againt". I will not be some sheep following the rest of the heared. As i am certainly not working along side the Renguard crew, obviously that must mean i am working against them. Maybe that would make more logic to the rest of the fools on here that cannot understand an in-depth thought.
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Do I work with BHS? No, but I am not against them. This is not about you following a herd, its about you finding the lamest possible excuse to justify being a nutsack to the Renegade community.
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| Re: ok im confused [message #166254 is a reply to message #166230] |
Sat, 13 August 2005 09:10 |
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| XeonTeam wrote on Sat, 13 August 2005 08:34 |
Ok, you have no need to insult me and be sarcastic about the matter. My way of putting it is that i am either "Working for", or "Working againt". I will not be some sheep following the rest of the heared. As i am certainly not working along side the Renguard crew, obviously that must mean i am working against them. Maybe that would make more logic to the rest of the fools on here that cannot understand an in-depth thought.
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As pleased as we all are that you've found something to have a childish rebellion against, what I have difficultly fathoming is exactly what is so wrong with RenGuard. You must also be aware--as you are clearly above the rest of us "fools" incapable of understanding in-depth thoughts (whatever that means)--that if it were not for winners like yourself, there would be no need for the evil that is RenGuard. But by all means, continue to try to ruin everyone's fun, because I'm certain that when you finally win, beat RenGuard, and end mutliplayer Renegade, that you will become a public icon. EA will tremble before you. There will be parades, and your name will be forever burned into the minds of the world as that great man who cheated at a video game.
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| Re: ok im confused [message #166257 is a reply to message #165896] |
Sat, 13 August 2005 09:17 |
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What case do you have otherwise? Of course you aren't going to go into detail how your case is correct because it's wrong You have nothing to stand on and yet you still continue like you're right. You aren't. What are you talking about mature anyways? mature is spoiling fun for everyone on public servers and not admitting it's wrong to do so? You're also not mature enough to admit that what you're doing is wrong so you continue here to post your argument (even though you don't have one) and insult people and act as though you've won. You haven't. You're an idiot. If you are over 13 years old then i have to assume God showered down stupid when he made you. you have no legs to stand on so just admit you're wrong.
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| Re: ok im confused [message #166300 is a reply to message #166206] |
Sat, 13 August 2005 15:32 |
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| gbull wrote on Fri, 12 August 2005 22:26 |
| XeonTeam wrote on Fri, 12 August 2005 20:05 |
I understand you concerns, and even if i were to attepmt to explain my case (which im not going to), you would not respect any of the decisions and choices i may have made.
May i expect that my other account which is very obviously mine, will be allowed full access still? Or is this area so secret?
By the way, the style of language i have been using on this account, i have purposely made different and to an extent, sluggish.
You and i both know we have our own opinions and ways of thinking. I will still stand by what i have said, also i still feel that you (Crimson) are still the most adult figure out of your group on here and i wish that some of you would wear off on the other members of this community.
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Wow, the monkey bought a braincell. Thank you for shopping at Walmart!
Why should we respect you when you don't respect our right to play in a cheat free environment? You attempt to get the attention of people who no longer care about a game by destroying the game that means nothing to them? Geez, your logic is flawless. Why didn't I see it before, its so clear now!
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note to self: go to walmart
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| Re: ok im confused [message #166367 is a reply to message #165896] |
Sun, 14 August 2005 07:24 |
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I remember a few months back Xeon was crying like a baby because everyone flamed him.... he left the forums in shame and said he'd never be back.
Oh well, I guess the lack of anything else to do hit him hard.
De7 is right... anyone who spends as much time making cheats as you or cyberpunk does has gotta suck at the game, there's no two ways about it.
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| Re: ok im confused [message #166384 is a reply to message #165896] |
Sun, 14 August 2005 11:48 |
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The first agrument/reason to justify developing cheats was to destroy Crimson and Blazer's reputation. This explains why the first cheat was made in Crimson's name. The people who developed the cheats hated the couple so much they wanted to destroy the game, thus destroying their hobby.
Now this is the most recent agrument, which contradicts the first (true) reason for the development of cheats. EA does not and will not care. The people (ie Xeon) who propose this argument are either misguided and delusional, or they are lying. The latter explanation makes more sense. Or perhaps the originators of this excuse are leading misguided into believing in it, making a mixture of the two.
Making cheats for an old online computer game that wasn't even very popular is not that great. At least the people making Renguard have a clear and rational purpose: to continue to enojy their favorite game. Does your life revolve around destroying a couple's favorite game for everyone as an act of revenge? I hope not; life is more than that.
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| Re: ok im confused [message #166427 is a reply to message #166235] |
Mon, 15 August 2005 05:24 |
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| Lijitsu wrote on Sat, 13 August 2005 15:13 |
Its the stupidest...
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Most stupid*
Anyway, XeonTeam. Stop ignoring people's posts.
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As pleased as we all are that you've found something to have a childish rebellion against, what I have difficultly fathoming is exactly what is so wrong with RenGuard. You must also be aware--as you are clearly above the rest of us "fools" incapable of understanding in-depth thoughts (whatever that means)--that if it were not for winners like yourself, there would be no need for the evil that is RenGuard. But by all means, continue to try to ruin everyone's fun, because I'm certain that when you finally win, beat RenGuard, and end mutliplayer Renegade, that you will become a public icon. EA will tremble before you. There will be parades, and your name will be forever burned into the minds of the world as that great man who cheated at a video game.
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Any comments? No? Because he already made you look like the dumbass you are?
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What case do you have otherwise? Of course you aren't going to go into detail how your case is correct because it's wrong You have nothing to stand on and yet you still continue like you're right. You aren't. What are you talking about mature anyways? mature is spoiling fun for everyone on public servers and not admitting it's wrong to do so? You're also not mature enough to admit that what you're doing is wrong so you continue here to post your argument (even though you don't have one) and insult people and act as though you've won. You haven't. You're an idiot. If you are over 13 years old then i have to assume God showered down stupid when he made you. you have no legs to stand on so just admit you're wrong.
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Still ignoring? Oh right yes, again, you must ignore, because you know he is right.
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I remember a few months back Xeon was crying like a baby because everyone flamed him.... he left the forums in shame and said he'd never be back.
Oh well, I guess the lack of anything else to do hit him hard.
De7 is right... anyone who spends as much time making cheats as you or cyberpunk does has gotta suck at the game, there's no two ways about it.
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I agree. If you are so good Xeon how about a 1v1 with Spoony in a renguarded server? No? Ah right, because you suck.
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| Re: ok im confused [message #166450 is a reply to message #165896] |
Mon, 15 August 2005 14:48 |
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My only reply i will give you for any of your two-faced insults is that none of you even know the half of it.
- Xeon -
Also, UNTIL a few things have been completed i will not post on this name and will continue on my others. I assusre you i will be back.
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| Re: ok im confused [message #166483 is a reply to message #166450] |
Tue, 16 August 2005 00:44 |
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| XeonTeam wrote on Mon, 15 August 2005 17:48 |
My only reply i will give you for any of your two-faced insults is that none of you even know the half of it.
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Translation: "You're right about everything you said about me, but I'm damned if I'm gonna admit that"
| XeonTeam wrote on Mon, 15 August 2005 17:48 |
I assusre you i will be back.
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I seem to remember you assuring us you wouldn't be back. Well, you broke that promise, so shall we assume this time you actually are leaving?
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