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Thanks Rockstar [message #164966] Mon, 01 August 2005 00:25 Go to next message
icedog90 is currently offline  icedog90
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Yeah, thanks. All because they couldn't hold in their hormones, none of this would of happened with ESRB. Yeah, they changed the rating of San Andreas to AO (Adult Only), but that's not what I really care about right now. In fact, I think Rockstar deserved it. Well, if you take a look at this link and read the news of the site:

http://www.gtasanandreas.net/news/index.php?vo=39

This situation is going WAY too far.

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After recent statments from the ESRB stating they wish to see modding for all games stopped, some of us decided it would be a good idea to defend ourselves from the whole "modders are evil" myth they are perpetuating. Namely that we somehow made something so shocking and offensive with Hot Coffee that it undermines their whole rating system, even though they've rated at least a half dozen titles as M which are just as (if not more) explicit than anything in San Andreas; modded or otherwise.


This is completely ridiculous. I seriously feel nervous for the game industry, it's like what Glyde said to me earlier:

Glyde

The gaming industry has come under the political spotlight


It's about time ESRB wakes up and notices that game companies have been getting away with a lot of sexual content, but this is being taken in such a dramatic and political way that I can't even stand it. I seriously do fear for the future of the game industry, all of this happened in a matter of days, and it can easily get a whole lot worse.

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Re: Thanks Rockstar [message #164968 is a reply to message #164966] Mon, 01 August 2005 00:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Unfortunatley, the gaming industry has decayed. People who were once ignorant to gaming now see it, and what they see is the worst side. They don't see the fun kids have with this kind of stuff. So they hate it and want it drowned or hanged for witchcraft.

Politics and gaming have come together. Maybe they'll get a divorce.


No. Seriously. No.
Re: Thanks Rockstar [message #164969 is a reply to message #164966] Mon, 01 August 2005 01:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think I'm gonna start e-mailing the ESRB screenshots from Reader Rabbit that I Artmoney'd to make the characters say explicit things. This is absolutely insane of the ESRB. Shall we punish the paintbrush makers for explicit art? Should we indite the paper mills for seditious writing?

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Re: Thanks Rockstar [message #164989 is a reply to message #164966] Mon, 01 August 2005 09:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This really isn't Rockstars fault. Instead of actually searching for where the Hot Coffe mod came from, the Democrats are attacking the people who had nothing to do with this.

Don't blame Rockstar, blame the douchebag over the internet who made the stupid thing in the first place. Rockstar deserves at least a little support, they're just buckleing under all this political pressure.


WHATEVER, FAGGOT

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Re: Thanks Rockstar [message #164991 is a reply to message #164966] Mon, 01 August 2005 10:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Actually, it is Rockstar's fault. Perhaps not 100% their fault, but a large amount of it. It would be different if the mod was 100% user made. However, all this "mod" did was unlock something that had been put in the game by the people who made the game. That is what is causing the trouble.
Re: Thanks Rockstar [message #164998 is a reply to message #164966] Mon, 01 August 2005 12:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It wouldn't be a problem if stupid parents wouldn't buy M-rated games for their 10 year olds in the first place. Most game stores won't let anyone under the recommended age of 17 buy them anyway (and let's face it...there's nothing in an AO rated game that a 17 year old is going to be unfamiliar with).

This is yet another case of "let's blame the industry for our own bad parenting." Seriously...nude and sex mods have been around as long as games with characters.

The point is that there is no way to access the "Hot Coffee" content using what came in the package with the game. You HAVE to download a third-party mod to unlock it. It does not matter if the content was there in the first place or not; unless you mod the game it is as good as not there at all.

Besides, all the mod does is reveal a minigame where characters dry-hump each other. You have to download a set of third-party nude skins to take their clothes off.


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Remember, kids: illiteracy is cool. If you took the time to read this, you are clearly a loser who will never get laid. You've been warned.
Re: Thanks Rockstar [message #165017 is a reply to message #164966] Mon, 01 August 2005 14:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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sucks to be under 18.

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Re: Thanks Rockstar [message #165043 is a reply to message #164998] Mon, 01 August 2005 17:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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NukeIt15 wrote on Mon, 01 August 2005 15:08

It wouldn't be a problem if stupid parents wouldn't buy M-rated games for their 10 year olds in the first place. Most game stores won't let anyone under the recommended age of 17 buy them anyway (and let's face it...there's nothing in an AO rated game that a 17 year old is going to be unfamiliar with).

This is yet another case of "let's blame the industry for our own bad parenting." Seriously...nude and sex mods have been around as long as games with characters.

The point is that there is no way to access the "Hot Coffee" content using what came in the package with the game. You HAVE to download a third-party mod to unlock it. It does not matter if the content was there in the first place or not; unless you mod the game it is as good as not there at all.

Besides, all the mod does is reveal a minigame where characters dry-hump each other. You have to download a set of third-party nude skins to take their clothes off.


And I agree with all of this. All I'm saying is that the reason people are up in arms about this, is simply because it was originally programmed into the game. Had someone decided to make a completely 3rd party modification, with new sprites etc. then none of this would have arisen. I doubt you've heard much in the news about the fan made map for Warcraft 3 that allows players to view naked people.
Re: Thanks Rockstar [message #165068 is a reply to message #164966] Tue, 02 August 2005 00:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I was under the impression that most people don't understand the difference. Politicians certainly love to rag on GTA.

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Re: Thanks Rockstar [message #165113 is a reply to message #164966] Tue, 02 August 2005 14:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Politicians certainly love to rag on anything they think has the remotest possibility of getting one more ignorant moron to vote for them in the next election.


Fixed.


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Re: Thanks Rockstar [message #165136 is a reply to message #165043] Wed, 03 August 2005 02:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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warranto wrote on Mon, 01 August 2005 20:25

NukeIt15 wrote on Mon, 01 August 2005 15:08

It wouldn't be a problem if stupid parents wouldn't buy M-rated games for their 10 year olds in the first place. Most game stores won't let anyone under the recommended age of 17 buy them anyway (and let's face it...there's nothing in an AO rated game that a 17 year old is going to be unfamiliar with).

This is yet another case of "let's blame the industry for our own bad parenting." Seriously...nude and sex mods have been around as long as games with characters.

The point is that there is no way to access the "Hot Coffee" content using what came in the package with the game. You HAVE to download a third-party mod to unlock it. It does not matter if the content was there in the first place or not; unless you mod the game it is as good as not there at all.

Besides, all the mod does is reveal a minigame where characters dry-hump each other. You have to download a set of third-party nude skins to take their clothes off.


And I agree with all of this. All I'm saying is that the reason people are up in arms about this, is simply because it was originally programmed into the game. Had someone decided to make a completely 3rd party modification, with new sprites etc. then none of this would have arisen. I doubt you've heard much in the news about the fan made map for Warcraft 3 that allows players to view naked people.




A better example and more known would be, the Nude raider mods for tombraider. (Yes I know in those time she still was as pixelated as can be). Altough the existance of this mod was publicly known, it didn't result in such a political struggle as this.


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Re: Thanks Rockstar [message #165154 is a reply to message #164966] Wed, 03 August 2005 04:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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this game lets you go joy riding, hit and runs, you can walk down the street with a pump-action shottie and cause all manor death n distruction. then they complain to get the game banned because someone creats a mod that lets you see some shaggin.....go figure Confused
Re: Thanks Rockstar [message #165156 is a reply to message #165154] Wed, 03 August 2005 04:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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lol shaggin

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Re: Thanks Rockstar [message #165178 is a reply to message #164966] Wed, 03 August 2005 07:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If GTA gets that much media attention, how about the "Bully" then?...

http://www.take2games.com/index.php?p=games&title=bully


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Re: Thanks Rockstar [message #165179 is a reply to message #165178] Wed, 03 August 2005 07:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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that game sounds kool, ill have to get it.

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Re: Thanks Rockstar [message #167716 is a reply to message #165178] Thu, 25 August 2005 14:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Scythar wrote on Wed, 03 August 2005 10:31

If GTA gets that much media attention, how about the "Bully" then?...

http://www.take2games.com/index.php?p=games&title=bully


Wow, that game looks great. And sounds really cool.
Re: Thanks Rockstar [message #167717 is a reply to message #164966] Thu, 25 August 2005 14:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Question: There are nude skins for Renegade, so should Renegade be rated M too? (I wonder who knows the answer)

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Re: Thanks Rockstar [message #167908 is a reply to message #164966] Fri, 26 August 2005 21:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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http://gr.bolt.com/articles/jack/jack.htm

Read all the links within too.
Re: Thanks Rockstar [message #167970 is a reply to message #164966] Sat, 27 August 2005 08:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just quoting myself from a different thread:

warranto wrote on Tue, 16 August 2005 12:48

RyuKishen wrote on Wed, 10 August 2005 16:43

So does this mean that Barbie dolls and all of that are now for Adults Only since they show that same stuff? Big Grin


heh, that gives me an idea. We should create a fake site that includes a petition to label all dolls that portray life-like features as an "adult only" toy. Afterall, television, movies and videogames that portray the same thing get a similar rating!



Though to make an addition, perhaps we should send our idea to Mr. Thompson. If video games that blur it are bad, the real toys should be even worse!
Re: Thanks Rockstar [message #167999 is a reply to message #164966] Sat, 27 August 2005 11:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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http://gr.bolt.com/articles/jack/crocodile_b.jpg
lol Big Grin
Re: Thanks Rockstar [message #168099 is a reply to message #167999] Sat, 27 August 2005 21:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Terminator 101 wrote on Sat, 27 August 2005 14:03

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lol Big Grin



WTF?
Nice picture..but how does it relate?


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Re: Thanks Rockstar [message #168119 is a reply to message #164966] Sat, 27 August 2005 23:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Try reading the link I posted, n00bie. And also look closely at the picture.
Re: Thanks Rockstar [message #168140 is a reply to message #164966] Sun, 28 August 2005 01:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A topic about Video Games, and i havent posted in it? Somethins wrong with me. Anyway.

Yeah, the whole Adult Content freak out is gettin fuggin old. It may not have been goin on for long, but still. If im forced to stop playing Halo and Renegade, opting instead for "Counting For Teenagers," im goin on a killing spree. Dont they realize that Violent Video Games actually KEEP us from going out and killing someone? Look at what you can do in Halo, for instance:
1. Grenades. Two types. Frag Grenade, and Sticky Grenade.
2. Bash. Bash bash bash bash bash.
3. Shoot people alot. If this game is known for one thing regarding violence, its this.
4. Rocket Launcher. Enough said.
5. Flamethrower*. Outlawed for a reason to be owned in the USA.
6. Fuel Rod Gun*. Think rapid fire, weaker, Rocket Launcher.
7. Vehicular Manslaughter. You can even back up over their corpses, after youve run them down.
8. You can hump the corpses, by rapidly pressing the "Crouch" button.
9. Tank. Again, enough said.
10. You can hit someone with a Grenade, or something, but you can knock them off the edge of the arena, in certain maps.
11. You can beat up the corpses of your fallen enemies. And blow them up.
12. You can knock a vehicle into someone, onto someone, or over someone.

I submit my long-ish post to the... Er... Readers, and ask: Why are they idiots?


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Re: Thanks Rockstar [message #168591 is a reply to message #168140] Tue, 30 August 2005 14:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Lijitsu wrote on Sun, 28 August 2005 04:58

8. You can hump the corpses, by rapidly pressing the "Crouch" button.


Wow, I whould never have thought of that. How did you ever thought of that?. Anyway, I don't think anyone in the world is idiot enough to do that. Seriously, you would have to have some bad mental disoder.
So, you can scratch that point.


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Re: Thanks Rockstar [message #168880 is a reply to message #164966] Thu, 01 September 2005 13:30 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Actually, it's true, a lot of people do it. Especially in Halo and Counter-Strike.
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