| Why people let renegade not Renegade [message #163318] |
Fri, 15 July 2005 06:32  |
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[lwd]WarZman
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hi all
i get a little angry people do with renegade.
CP1 and CP2 are both nice updates.
but my oppion on this is that some things rape renegade
like GodMode, Stealh Crates,etc
i know you can put them of but its getting anoying when you play and a fragger with a godmode walke throught you camp and blow 1 of your building up without getting killed by the towers.
Snipermods where you can run (lag) forward by holding shift buttons
Why it isn't the same and old regade before Core Patches first time i hurt of CorePatch i thought it removes the bugs out of the game that normaly not possible in normal live. like buying on the wrong side of the building shooting throug walls in sepeartited levels get out the Invisble places in some maps.
some of the things are really now but there are much other stuff coming on renegade.
Other Crates
Drop Weapons
Wrecks
Wreckage are really sux right now. You cant blow up your own wrecks so the other team can walk right to it reapears it and get it into there base. Make is the other team impossible to rep wrecks of the other team.
and weapon drop
when a engies used his remotes and he got killed he drop remote where the hell those remotes came from ???
some things are a little wierd ingame
i hope those things dissaepe in 1 of the next CP
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| Re: Why people let renegade not Renegade [message #163319 is a reply to message #163318] |
Fri, 15 July 2005 06:42  |
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Why don't you contribute instead of whining?
It is up to the server owner to decide what server side mods run on their server, they chose SSAOW which includes these features. You can get SSAOW standalone, too. Core Patches just combine various community projects together.
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| Re: Why people let renegade not Renegade [message #163336 is a reply to message #163318] |
Fri, 15 July 2005 11:06 |
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Dr. Lithius
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WarZman wrote on Fri, 15 July 2005 06:32]hi all
i get a little angry people do with renegade.
CP1 and CP2 are both nice updates.
but my oppion on this is that some things rape renegade
like GodMode, Stealh Crates,etc
i know you can put them of but its getting anoying when you play and a fragger with a godmode walke throught you camp and blow 1 of your building up without getting killed by the towers.
Snipermods where you can run (lag) forward by holding shift buttons
Why it isn't the same and old regade before Core Patches first time i hurt of CorePatch i thought it removes the bugs out of the game that normaly not possible in normal live. like buying on the wrong side of the building shooting throug walls in sepeartited levels get out the Invisble places in some maps.
some of the things are really now but there are much other stuff coming on renegade.
Other Crates
Drop Weapons
Wrecks
Wreckage are really sux right now. You cant blow up your own wrecks so the other team can walk right to it reapears it and get it into there base. Make is the other team impossible to rep wrecks of the other team.
and weapon drop
when a engies used his remotes and he got killed he drop remote where the hell those remotes came from ???
some things are a little wierd ingame
i hope those things dissaepe in 1 of the next CP
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English translation required, please. I can barely understand word one of this post.
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| Re: Why people let renegade not Renegade [message #163350 is a reply to message #163318] |
Fri, 15 July 2005 13:30 |
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glyde51
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hi all
i get a little angry people do with renegade.
CP1 and CP2 are both nice updates.
but my oppion on this is that some things rape renegade
like GodMode, Stealh Crates,etc
These make the game more interesting for people that care for them. You rape spelling. I'm not complaining.
i know you can put them of but its getting anoying when you play and a fragger with a godmode walke throught you camp and blow 1 of your building up without getting killed by the towers.
OMFG DEY POONED TEH CAMPZOR!1!!! DEY WUNT TEH SMORZ!!1!
Snipermods where you can run (lag) forward by holding shift buttons
Mmm... shift...
Why it isn't the same and old regade before Core Patches first time i hurt of CorePatch i thought it removes the bugs out of the game that normaly not possible in normal live. like buying on the wrong side of the building shooting throug walls in sepeartited levels get out the Invisble places in some maps.
I think you fail at understanding what the core patches did.
some of the things are really now but there are much other stuff coming on renegade.
Other Crates
Drop Weapons
Wrecks
Wreckage are really sux right now. You cant blow up your own wrecks so the other team can walk right to it reapears it and get it into there base. Make is the other team impossible to rep wrecks of the other team.
So get your own repair gun you dumbass, you can make a wreckage come back to life. "FTW DEY CAN GET TEH VEHICKALZ BACK?!?!?!"
and weapon drop
when a engies used his remotes and he got killed he drop remote where the hell those remotes came from ???
some things are a little wierd ingame
i hope those things dissaepe in 1 of the next CP
OGFM IT GIB STRATEGEE TO TEH GAME IT NOT TEH 1337 AWESOME REALISTIC LAWL!11!
No. Seriously. No.
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| Re: Why people let renegade not Renegade [message #163357 is a reply to message #163318] |
Fri, 15 July 2005 14:25 |
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mrpirate
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In response to glyde's response:
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but my oppion on this is that some things rape renegade
like GodMode, Stealh Crates,etc
These make the game more interesting for people that care for them. You rape spelling. I'm not complaining.
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Things like the random vehicles from crates, god crates, and stealth crates make Renegade less dependent on skill and teamwork, and more dependent on luck. Thank you, though, for pointing out that the people who like these mods... like these mods.
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i know you can put them of but its getting anoying when you play and a fragger with a godmode walke throught you camp and blow 1 of your building up without getting killed by the towers.
OMFG DEY POONED TEH CAMPZOR!1!!! DEY WUNT TEH SMORZ!!1!
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When he said "camp," he meant "base." And you're telling me you don't think it's pretty fucking stupid to have someone chosen at random who can so easily dominate the other team?
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Wreckage are really sux right now. You cant blow up your own wrecks so the other team can walk right to it reapears it and get it into there base. Make is the other team impossible to rep wrecks of the other team.
So get your own repair gun you dumbass, you can make a wreckage come back to life. "FTW DEY CAN GET TEH VEHICKALZ BACK?!?!?!"
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This is an especially good suggestion, because if your team left a wreckage near--or, god forbid, in--the opposing team's base, they will likely be kind and let you repair it. It's not like wreckages discourage rushing or even attacking because of the likelihood of losing a tank to the other team, or anything.
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and weapon drop
when a engies used his remotes and he got killed he drop remote where the hell those remotes came from ???
some things are a little wierd ingame
i hope those things dissaepe in 1 of the next CP
OGFM IT GIB STRATEGEE TO TEH GAME IT NOT TEH 1337 AWESOME REALISTIC LAWL!11!
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Nothing is more fun than playing with a bunch of fucktard SBHs with Ramjet Rifles. Dropping weapons defeats the point of Renegade's character system.
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| Re: Why people let renegade not Renegade [message #163360 is a reply to message #163318] |
Fri, 15 July 2005 14:43 |
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Dave Anderson
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Fuck off you dumb bastard. It's rare to find a server without SSAOW these days, and unless it's mentioned in the server name, it's difficult to find one.
If contributing means making stupid shit like drop-weapons, then I'm glad that WarZman is just whining.
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Yes it is hard to find servers without SSAOW, BUT...it is not hard to find servers without these modifications.
David Anderson
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DCOM Productions
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| Re: Why people let renegade not Renegade [message #163361 is a reply to message #163318] |
Fri, 15 July 2005 14:48 |
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I understand where you're coming from, [lwd]WarZman... some people like these mods. Others don't. I don't like most of these new things and I don't use them, or play on servers that use them.
The point of Core Patch 1 was not to CHANGE Renegade, it was to FIX and ENHANCE Renegade. There are other servers just like mine (n00bstories AOW Server) that do not use the luck-optimized modifications. I have the "big" crates, but only because there's a bug that doesn't let me use the small ones. I set the crates to only give what the original crates give. I am using all the bug fixes, and I'll gladly use almost any enhancement that doesn't change the balance of the game.
My best advice to you is to look for servers that play the game the way you want to play it. That's one of the benefits of having so many servers available.
I'm the bawss.
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| Re: Why people let renegade not Renegade [message #163392 is a reply to message #163318] |
Fri, 15 July 2005 18:12 |
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YSLMuffins
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Why can't you get big crates with vehicles? It's stupid that you might lose your vehicle just because you happen to be where the crate spawns.
-YSLMuffins
The goddess of all (bread products)
See me online as yslcheeze
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| Re: Why people let renegade not Renegade [message #163428 is a reply to message #163318] |
Sat, 16 July 2005 06:48 |
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Talk to the PistolServ folks, they seem to have fixed this... 
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| Why people drink renegade eating while coffee [message #163452 is a reply to message #163443] |
Sat, 16 July 2005 10:12 |
AlmightyHydra
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Crates I like (i.e. approve of):
- The original ones (+100, +200, refill of ammo) and the new +255 (how random?)
- Health/armour/both refill
- Spy crate (I know it's the "one person blowing up the base" thing but they only get 100/100 health and lose their current character in return for the priviledge)
- Stealth crate
- Death crate
Crates I don't like:
- Point modifications
- De-money crate (subtracts credits)
- Nuclear Bomb
- The one that halves the health of everything on the game (turns it into a temporary "first one to go to a PT and press E-4 gets lots of credits" mess)
- Free vehicles (not only because they drop stupid stuff like the chameleon but also it is too much of a one-way advantage)
- Random character crate (Lost a 1000 sydney turning into a flamethrower, and the obi still shot me. Wonderful.)
- "All the weapons" crate and other super crates
There are probably a few more that I haven't come across yet, but that's my 2p (i live in UK  )
Weapon drops are nice. Gives you a reward for your kill (unless team-mate steals it). Though it can get excessive; once I was a sydney with a PIC, 2 auto rifles, shotgun, remote C4, volt auto rifle, grenade launcher and probably something else as well... Having basic engis drop remote C4, but big techs drop repair guns, is a nice balance.
Wrecks appear to get shot by the obelisk or AGT. Hence if the enemy lose a vehicle in your base, it dies no matter what you do. Also the fact that if you stand too close while repairing, when it respawns you die. And there's the "create a 10 medium tank rush" ability... Any chance of getting wrecks to count on vehicle limit (maybe increase limit by 1 or 2) ?
PS. WarZman, learn spelling and grammar FAST. What on earth is this meant to mean?
"Why people let renegade not Renegade"
Hence my post title 
AlmightyHydra
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| Re: Why people let renegade not Renegade [message #163483 is a reply to message #163318] |
Sat, 16 July 2005 16:35 |
flyingfox
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bottom line is if you put in things like god crates, you should be making those mod maps with those sniper balance changes half the ren community on these forums have been moaning for you to make. instead we get server owners running these jokes of mods, and their own scripts to go with them. now you may say "we dont want to put in balance changes", well then, what are those crates and pretty much everything SSAOW does doing to the game then?
now dont get me wrong, some stuff, like the spy crate and the "base power down temporarily" is good, but the rest of it shouldn't be there for reasons i would have thought obvious...obviously not. depoints crate? demoney crate? what did I do to lose points, or money, just by running into something? tank wreckages? I just blew up some dude's tank and he came back 20 secs later with the same thing, fully healed? I see a hotty, I think, easy prey, obviously not because she's ARMED TO THE FUCKING TEETH WITH RIFLES, LASER GUNS, SNIPER RIFLES, ROCKET LAUNCHERS AND A KITCHEN SINK TO BOOT.
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| Re: Why people let renegade not Renegade [message #163485 is a reply to message #163483] |
Sat, 16 July 2005 16:40 |
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| flyingfox wrote on Sat, 16 July 2005 19:35 |
I see a hotty, I think, easy prey, obviously not because she's ARMED TO THE FUCKING TEETH WITH RIFLES, LASER GUNS, SNIPER RIFLES, ROCKET LAUNCHERS AND A KITCHEN SINK TO BOOT.
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| Re: Why people let renegade not Renegade [message #163486 is a reply to message #163318] |
Sat, 16 July 2005 17:11 |
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hint: the server owner controls how often you get the different kinds of crates...and p.s. drop weapons have their advantages...as in they add a different dimension to the game (Rav with a Repair Gun)
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| Re: Why people let renegade not Renegade [message #163490 is a reply to message #163392] |
Sat, 16 July 2005 18:35 |
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| YSLMuffins wrote on Fri, 15 July 2005 21:12 |
Why can't you get big crates with vehicles? It's stupid that you might lose your vehicle just because you happen to be where the crate spawns.
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This was originally done because some of the crate rewards would glitch when you got them in vehicles, however as crates became more centered around infantry it stayed like this.
| flyingfox wrote on Sat, 16 July 2005 19:35 |
now dont get me wrong, some stuff, like the spy crate and the "base power down temporarily" is good, but the rest of it shouldn't be there for reasons i would have thought obvious...obviously not. depoints crate? demoney crate? what did I do to lose points, or money, just by running into something? tank wreckages? I just blew up some dude's tank and he came back 20 secs later with the same thing, fully healed? I see a hotty, I think, easy prey, obviously not because she's ARMED TO THE FUCKING TEETH WITH RIFLES, LASER GUNS, SNIPER RIFLES, ROCKET LAUNCHERS AND A KITCHEN SINK TO BOOT.
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The bad crates are there to deterr people from whoring the crates.
Vehicle shells are glitched in the current version of SSAOW and revive at half health instead of full health, this is fixed in the next version.
At the moment there are alot of things that need to be fixed in the drop weapon system in SSAOW, like SBH being able to pickup guns, engis dropping remote c4 when they've already used their ammo, havocs/sakuras dropping 4 shot ramjets instead of the 1 shot ramjet. Hopefully i can get all that fixed though.
The crate system in SSAOW also needs alot more polish, since it uses the regular crate spawning formula in ren crates spawn WAY too fast for what they're able to do. Some crates, like the God, Stealth, Spy are pretty overpowered in their current form and need to be nerfed.
Black-Cell.net
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DragonServ, Renegade's first IRC interface bot
Creator and lead coder (2002 - )
Dragonade, Renegade's first server side modification
Lead coder (2005 - )
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| Re: Why people let renegade not Renegade [message #163621 is a reply to message #163318] |
Mon, 18 July 2005 04:05 |
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YSLMuffins
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So the glitchy ramjet is intentional? Why not have all dropped weapons be "disadvantaged" in some way?
The only crate I haven't seen is the spy crate. Apart from AlmightyHydra's description I still have no clear idea what that's supposed to do. If I got it, would I understand what do to?
-YSLMuffins
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