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Re: Terrorist attack on London [message #162617 is a reply to message #162610] |
Thu, 07 July 2005 07:52 |
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The Terrorists have won this battle. They've diverted news coverage away when the Worlds Eyes are on Great Britain with the opening of the the G8 meeting and winning the Olympic bid. There is no doubt in my mind that disrupting the G8 was their intention and they have succeeded, Tony Blair is leaving to go back to London. Apparently some Italian group have claimed credit for the attack but nobody believes them as attacking London would have no effect on Italian politics.
It could have been the French, they've always been sore losers.
Aircraftkiller | That's irrelevant to this thread.
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Re: Terrorist attack on London [message #162619 is a reply to message #162610] |
Thu, 07 July 2005 07:56 |
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Really? That must have happened in the lest 20 minutes as I was watching the TV not long ago and they said this Italian group had taken responceablility and Al Quieda don't always do it.
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Re: Terrorist attack on London [message #162627 is a reply to message #162610] |
Thu, 07 July 2005 09:09 |
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I think I may have misheard what was said on the TV because my mum was on the phone to me. The group taking responsibility are called "The Secret Al Quieda working in Europe" or something like that. The guys on TV must have been talking about something else for a minute.
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Re: Terrorist attack on London [message #162628 is a reply to message #162610] |
Thu, 07 July 2005 09:18 |
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I'm at a loss for words...the first bomb went off at 8:51 am. Why is that time familiar???
STFU Tool. How dare you suggest such a thing! Of course there's a rivalry between the British and the French, but we would NEVER wish something like this on them.
I only wonder if this is part of something wider or not...
Edit: You're probably stressed and people make sick jokes to cope. Sorry I overreacted.
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Re: Terrorist attack on London [message #162655 is a reply to message #162610] |
Thu, 07 July 2005 17:11 |
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"We'll fight them over there so we don't have to fight them over here"
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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Re: Terrorist attack on London [message #163008 is a reply to message #162981] |
Mon, 11 July 2005 10:53 |
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DarkDemin wrote on Mon, 11 July 2005 12:35 | Go kick them out, get a patriot act, and learn what JINGOISM means!
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You do know Jingoism is an British concept? If you know your British History you'll know Great Britain's policies to Europe have followed Jingoism for centuries, not allowing any one European state control too much of Europe. The term was first used in connection with British policies who sought to bring England into the Russo-Turkish War (1877–1878) on the side of the Turks. It derived from a song:
Quote: | The "Dogs of War" are loose and the rugged Russian Bear,
All bent on blood and robbery has crawled out of his lair...
It seems a thrashing now and then, will never help to tame...
That brute, and so he's out upon the "same old game"...
The Lion did his best... to find him some excuse...
To crawl back to his den again. All efforts were no use...
He hunger'd for his victim. He's pleased when blood is shed...
But let us hope his crimes may all recoil on his own head...
Chorus:
We don't want to fight but by jingo if we do...
We've got the ships, we've got the men, and got the money too!
We've fought the Bear before... and while we're Britons true,
The Russians shall not have Constantinople...
The misdeeds of the Turks have been "spouted" through all lands,
But how about the Russians, can they show spotless hands?
They slaughtered well at Khiva, in Siberia icy cold.
How many subjects done to death we'll ne'er perhaps be told.
They butchered the Circassians, man, woman yes and child.
With cruelties their Generals their murderous hours beguiled,
And poor unhappy Poland their cruel yoke must bear,
While prayers for "Freedom and Revenge" go up into the air.
(Chorus)
May he who 'gan the quarrel soon have to bite the dust.
The Turk should be thrice armed for "he hath his quarrel just."
'Tis said that countless thousands should die through cruel war,
But let us hope most fervently ere long it shall be o'er.
Let them be warned: Old England is brave Old England still.
We've proved our might, we've claimed our right, and ever, ever will.
Should we have to draw the sword our way to victory we'll forge,
With the Battle cry of Britons, "Old England and St George!"
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The word Jingo is a euphemism for Jesus without blaspheming it is derived from a Basque (part of Spain) word for God.
By the way the only thing I had to research for this post of the full song I knew the rest of it before.
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Re: Terrorist attack on London [message #163037 is a reply to message #162610] |
Mon, 11 July 2005 17:34 |
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my prayers go out to the victims.
In my opinion i think that the terrorist are winning the war,,its more of them every day looking like normal everyday people, then boom, they kill 5 or more people with a bomb,,,how can you stop terrorism when you can't tell who is a terrorist,,my professor is a arab muslim,,i pray he don't come to school one day and blow it up,,,but this war is not gonna ever end and terrorism will still be here long after im gone.
<----This Suck!!
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Re: Terrorist attack on London [message #163056 is a reply to message #162610] |
Tue, 12 July 2005 07:32 |
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We were never in their country in the first place. We were just minding our own bussiness when they bombed us. We'd like them out of our country too, ya know.
WHATEVER, FAGGOT
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Re: Terrorist attack on London [message #163058 is a reply to message #162610] |
Tue, 12 July 2005 08:46 |
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We did destroy the Bekaa Valley with the U.S.S. North Carolina's guns during that whole "Israel" thing. That's where all these terrorists are coming from. And now many, many more are going to be coming from Iraq. And since Bush has done nothing to secure any form of border, that's a bad thing unless we get a new government soon.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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Re: Terrorist attack on London [message #163060 is a reply to message #163058] |
Tue, 12 July 2005 09:07 |
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SuperFlyingEngi wrote on Tue, 12 July 2005 11:46 | We did destroy the Bekaa Valley with the U.S.S. North Carolina's guns during that whole "Israel" thing. That's where all these terrorists are coming from. And now many, many more are going to be coming from *the countries surrounding Iraq like Iran and Syria*. And since Bush has done nothing to secure any form of border, that's a bad thing unless we get a new government soon.
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Fixed it for you.
WHATEVER, FAGGOT
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Re: Terrorist attack on London [message #163066 is a reply to message #162610] |
Tue, 12 July 2005 12:57 |
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Oh, so because our bombs are killing the families of so many in Iraq and not Syria and Iran that the people we aren't killing are going to attack us? Not so sure about that.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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