 Have you noticed this? [message #162036] |
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When I first started to play Renegade, I lowered details to lowest possible, except for the textures. But then to reduce lagg even further, I decided to lower the details of textures to minimum too. At first I haven't really noticed anything, but after some time(few days) of playing, I began to notice that the Game is less attractive, and looks a bit ugly.
On some games, when you lower all details to minimum the game does not seem to be changed much. Example: Aliens vs Predator 2. But on some games, when you lower details to minimum, the game can look very ugly. Example: Unreal Tournament 2003 on lowest details looks worse than Doom 2(Seriously).
I don't know why this happens. Maybe it is because of different game engines that the games are made on.
I know that most of you have Pentium 4 and above, so you will probably never notice this.
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| Re: Have you noticed this? [message #162061 is a reply to message #162036] |
Tue, 28 June 2005 23:07  |
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Take Doom 3 for example. I have all the settings on low because I only have 256MB of Ram and a ATI Radeon 9200 SE PCI. The graphics still look outstanding. Compared to Renegade, with all the graphics on low, it is butt ugly. The difference? As Icedog said, the game engines. ID had implemented a brand new 3d game engine into the game. I do not know what engine Renegade is using, but I am sure it is lightyears away from the game engine ID used for Doom 3.
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| Re: Have you noticed this? [message #162066 is a reply to message #162061] |
Tue, 28 June 2005 23:30 |
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| deadfive wrote on Wed, 29 June 2005 02:07 |
Take Doom 3 for example. I have all the settings on low because I only have 256MB of Ram and a ATI Radeon 9200 SE PCI. The graphics still look outstanding. Compared to Renegade, with all the graphics on low, it is butt ugly. The difference? As Icedog said, the game engines. ID had implemented a brand new 3d game engine into the game. I do not know what engine Renegade is using, but I am sure it is lightyears away from the game engine ID used for Doom 3.
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Did you ever think that it might also have something to do with the fact that, oh i dont know, RENEGADE IS OVER THREE YEARS OLD AND DOOM 3 WAS MADE LAST YEAR!?!
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Unreal Tournament 2003 on lowest details looks worse than Doom 2
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Yeah, but Doom 2 doesnt have "Graphics Settings" on it, plus its a really good game anyway. Hell, ive had games that the Game play distracted me from the poor Graphics. Example: Oni, PS2. Doom 1. Doom 2. Half-Life. Empire Earth(Zoom in on the people). Generals.
Just kidding about Half-Life, ive never played it.
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| Re: Have you noticed this? [message #162071 is a reply to message #162036] |
Wed, 29 June 2005 01:46 |
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I've played renegade on lowest graphics for ages now. My computer is a 3 Gig AMD processor and my video card is 64 MB dedicated Gforce 4 but due to the fact that I play on a laptop, everytime it reads from the hard drive, it shutters.
I don't find it ugly, I just don't notice it, I guess. Only when I see others play at high level of performance, i notice the big difference...
You can find me in The KOSs2 (TK2) discord while I'm playing. Feel free to come and say hi! TK2 discord
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| Re: Have you noticed this? [message #162086 is a reply to message #162066] |
Wed, 29 June 2005 06:49 |
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| Lijitsu wrote on Wed, 29 June 2005 02:30 |
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Unreal Tournament 2003 on lowest details looks worse than Doom 2
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Yeah, but Doom 2 doesnt have "Graphics Settings" on it, plus its a really good game anyway.
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I know that, I was just comparing Graphics of doom 2 to Unreal Tournament 2003 on lowest graphics settings, so what are you trying to say?
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Hell, ive had games that the Game play distracted me from the poor Graphics. Example: Oni, PS2. Doom 1. Doom 2. Half-Life. Empire Earth(Zoom in on the people). Generals.
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I don't think that Doom 2 had very bad graphics, I have seen worse (ex.: Wolfenstein 3D). There is no need to zoom in on the people in Empire Earth, so that should not really be a distraction.
I don't think Generals have bad graphics either (it looks better than RA2;))
"It is time you saw the future, while you still have human eyes"
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| Re: Have you noticed this? [message #162104 is a reply to message #162036] |
Wed, 29 June 2005 10:20 |
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Did you ever think that it might also have something to do with the fact that, oh i dont know, RENEGADE IS OVER THREE YEARS OLD AND DOOM 3 WAS MADE LAST YEAR!?!
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Thats not the point. The point is that each individual game engine has part to do with the way adjusting the graphics work. There are other things that effect this as well, don't exactly know what though.
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| Re: Have you noticed this? [message #162163 is a reply to message #162104] |
Thu, 30 June 2005 02:02 |
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| deadfive wrote on Wed, 29 June 2005 13:20 |
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Did you ever think that it might also have something to do with the fact that, oh i dont know, RENEGADE IS OVER THREE YEARS OLD AND DOOM 3 WAS MADE LAST YEAR!?!
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Thats not the point. The point is that each individual game engine has part to do with the way adjusting the graphics work. There are other things that effect this as well, don't exactly know what though.
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It could be age, game physics, or setup of the game.
And, no, you dont really have to zoom in on the people, but its hard not to when you want to be directly in the fight. Look at almost every single unit with a face. They are ALL smiling. Crossbowmen, Knights, Heros, Civilians...
| Aircraftkiller wrote on Wed, 31 May 2006 22:30 |
I've been Nodbuggered. =( =( =(
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| Re: Have you noticed this? [message #162195 is a reply to message #162036] |
Thu, 30 June 2005 14:04 |
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It could be age, game physics, or setup of the game.
And, no, you dont really have to zoom in on the people, but its hard not to when you want to be directly in the fight. Look at almost every single unit with a face. They are ALL smiling. Crossbowmen, Knights, Heros, Civilians...
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huh? What are you talking about?
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| Re: Have you noticed this? [message #162200 is a reply to message #162195] |
Thu, 30 June 2005 14:36 |
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He was answering my post, but he did not want to post twice.
"It is time you saw the future, while you still have human eyes"
Cheaters only Cheat themselves!
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Hasta la vista, baby!
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