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Re: Rich People vs. Poor People [message #160999 is a reply to message #160868]

Mon, 20 June 2005 13:26

Javaxcx
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Hydra wrote on Mon, 20 June 2005 00:25

You don't fix poverty by throwing money at the poor--you change their destrictive lifestyles.
How do you do that? By addressing each and every person on an individual basis and working with him to change his self-destructive habits.
Throwing money at them in the form of a welfare check every month is no way to change self-destructive habits, but that seems to be all that the government is capable of.

I never meant to say that I liked the way welfare was being delt as it stands, because I don't Wink

. I understand that a destructive lifestyle is not necessarily deserving of any kind of assurance cheque in the mail allowing them to keep that lifestyle continuous, I was referring to those you REALLY need it. And I'm sure I don't need to elaborate on who those people are, because 99% of them would be temporarily on welfare.

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Last time I checked, neither of us have that right.

Not according to the Declaration of Independence. "Inalienable right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." That whole thing (not really expecting you to know that, though, since you're Canadian Razz

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Well, I've always been a tad confused about what exactly they mean when they say liberty, because I see liberty being raped out of many Americans all of the time. It depends on how far that definition is expanded, really.

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There is no Constitutional guarantee of a warm bed to sleep in and free food, so why should I have money I've earned taken from me and given to someone else?

Because that is dependant on what you consider the role of government to be. I personally like the idea of giving everyone at LEAST a warm bed to sleep in, and food to those who have the initiative and will to earn it. Unfortunately, not everyone who has that can get the job done, but they've tried their best and I feel that is worth something-- at least on a moral level.

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		Rich People vs. Poor People By: Hydra on Fri, 17 June 2005 09:23
		Re: Rich People vs. Poor People By: Javaxcx on Fri, 17 June 2005 10:28
		Re: Rich People vs. Poor People By: kinghigh1 on Fri, 17 June 2005 10:53
		Re: Rich People vs. Poor People By: Fabian on Fri, 17 June 2005 10:56
		Re: Rich People vs. Poor People By: kinghigh1 on Fri, 17 June 2005 10:57
		Re: Rich People vs. Poor People By: Hydra on Sat, 18 June 2005 20:18
		Re: Rich People vs. Poor People By: Javaxcx on Sat, 18 June 2005 22:38
		Re: Rich People vs. Poor People By: Hydra on Sun, 19 June 2005 21:25
		Re: Rich People vs. Poor People By: Javaxcx on Mon, 20 June 2005 13:26
		Re: Rich People vs. Poor People By: warranto on Mon, 20 June 2005 13:53
		Re: Rich People vs. Poor People By: Fabian on Wed, 22 June 2005 06:46
		Re: Rich People vs. Poor People By: Crimson on Fri, 17 June 2005 11:40
		Re: Rich People vs. Poor People By: warranto on Fri, 17 June 2005 13:50
		Re: Rich People vs. Poor People By: Crimson on Fri, 17 June 2005 19:57
		Re: Rich People vs. Poor People By: zgunner12 on Fri, 17 June 2005 20:05
		Re: Rich People vs. Poor People By: kinghigh1 on Fri, 17 June 2005 20:13
		Re: Rich People vs. Poor People By: zgunner12 on Fri, 17 June 2005 20:15
		Re: Rich People vs. Poor People By: cheesesoda on Fri, 17 June 2005 11:53
		Re: Rich People vs. Poor People By: kinghigh1 on Fri, 17 June 2005 13:49
		Re: Rich People vs. Poor People By: cheesesoda on Fri, 17 June 2005 15:02
		Re: Rich People vs. Poor People By: Jecht on Fri, 17 June 2005 21:36
		Re: Rich People vs. Poor People By: kinghigh1 on Sat, 18 June 2005 17:57
		Re: Rich People vs. Poor People By: msgtpain on Sat, 18 June 2005 18:22
		Re: Rich People vs. Poor People By: kinghigh1 on Sat, 18 June 2005 18:58
		Re: Rich People vs. Poor People By: bigejoe14 on Sat, 18 June 2005 19:47
		Re: Rich People vs. Poor People By: kinghigh1 on Sat, 18 June 2005 20:01
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		Re: Rich People vs. Poor People By: kinghigh1 on Sun, 19 June 2005 04:42
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		Re: Rich People vs. Poor People By: Crimson on Mon, 20 June 2005 02:48
		Re: Rich People vs. Poor People By: cheesesoda on Wed, 22 June 2005 09:54
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