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Re: Quite possibly the best political cartoon ever. [message #159975 is a reply to message #159541] Wed, 15 June 2005 08:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yeah, hydra, I almost decided to respond to you.... but then I thought better of it.

So you know, you used to actually be worthwhile to talk to, with genuine political ideas and... not as many slanders. But I'm afraid you went off your cranky old man pills. Come back once you've found them again.


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Re: Quite possibly the best political cartoon ever. [message #159979 is a reply to message #159541] Wed, 15 June 2005 09:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hes mad all the time because you follow liberals so close you can see Ted Kennedy's rectum. And his rectum blinds you from everything else around you.

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Re: Quite possibly the best political cartoon ever. [message #160029 is a reply to message #159960] Wed, 15 June 2005 12:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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kinghigh1 wrote on Wed, 15 June 2005 08:38

lol,The movie 8 miles comes to mind. Big Grin



How the hell does some low life piece of crap like Emeinem and his crappy movie come into play here?


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Re: Quite possibly the best political cartoon ever. [message #160063 is a reply to message #160029] Wed, 15 June 2005 14:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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cowmisfit wrote on Wed, 15 June 2005 14:41

kinghigh1 wrote on Wed, 15 June 2005 08:38

lol,The movie 8 miles comes to mind. Big Grin



How the hell does some low life piece of crap like Emeinem and his crappy movie come into play here?



I mean that Prox left hydra with no comeback.
And to think you were a your a skaterboy,8 miles one of ya'll cult classics right Big Grin


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Re: Quite possibly the best political cartoon ever. [message #160073 is a reply to message #159541] Wed, 15 June 2005 14:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What the hell, do you ever read what you type? I mean seriously, I'm no one to comment on spelling before the spell check, but your sentences sound like you just graduated from 2nd grade.

8 Mile a cult classic ? 8 Mile is a classic piece of garbage and classic showing that America is going down the hill because of Rap Music, just look at how many kids even wanted to learn about some disgrace of a human being like Marshal Mather's.


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Re: Quite possibly the best political cartoon ever. [message #160074 is a reply to message #160073] Wed, 15 June 2005 14:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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cowmisfit wrote on Wed, 15 June 2005 16:57

What the hell, do you ever read what you type? I mean seriously, I'm no one to comment on spelling before the spell check, but your sentences sound like you just graduated from 2nd grade.

8 Mile a cult classic ? 8 Mile is a classic piece of garbage and classic showing that America is going down the hill because of Rap Music, just look at how many kids even wanted to learn about some disgrace of a human being like Marshal Mather's.


you right,


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Re: Quite possibly the best political cartoon ever. [message #160104 is a reply to message #159541] Wed, 15 June 2005 17:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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lol, how in the hell do you connect rap and skating??? Most skaters I know like rock songs like me.

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Re: Quite possibly the best political cartoon ever. [message #160111 is a reply to message #160104] Wed, 15 June 2005 18:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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gbull wrote on Wed, 15 June 2005 20:23

lol, how in the hell do you connect rap and skating??? Most skaters I know like rock songs like me.


Because he's a misinformed 14 year old who only knows skateboarding from Tony Hawk's Pro skater , That sk8r Boi song and MTV. I fucking hate my generation.


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Re: Quite possibly the best political cartoon ever. [message #160118 is a reply to message #160111] Wed, 15 June 2005 18:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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cowmisfit wrote on Wed, 15 June 2005 20:44

gbull wrote on Wed, 15 June 2005 20:23

lol, how in the hell do you connect rap and skating??? Most skaters I know like rock songs like me.


Because he's a misinformed 14 year old who only knows skateboarding from Tony Hawk's Pro skater , That sk8r Boi song and MTV. I fucking hate my generation.


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Re: Quite possibly the best political cartoon ever. [message #160127 is a reply to message #159948] Wed, 15 June 2005 20:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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prox wrote on Wed, 15 June 2005 07:47

Are you going to attack him endlessly or- gee I don't know- actually contribute something important to the flow of the thread?

I'll stop once he starts demonstrating that he has the ability to think for himself and stops spewing bullshit like "Rich people screw over the poor!"

Check my post previous to the one you're referring to--is that not "contributing something important to the flow of the thread"?
Besides, when has the Tool EVER "contributed something important to the flow of the thread" that wasn't just another reycled argument he found on democraticunderground.com?


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Re: Quite possibly the best political cartoon ever. [message #160138 is a reply to message #159541] Wed, 15 June 2005 21:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So you know, I've literally read democraticunderground.com once, and that was to spite Aurora.

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)

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Re: Quite possibly the best political cartoon ever. [message #160224 is a reply to message #159541] Thu, 16 June 2005 05:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've always found it a bit ironic that people always accuse those who take a different view point than their own as being "unable to think for themselves."
Re: Quite possibly the best political cartoon ever. [message #160231 is a reply to message #159541] Thu, 16 June 2005 06:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A different view from mine? no. But when ALL of your views follow that of a political party you it becomes plain obvious you don't think for yourself. I consider myself conservative but I don't agree with everything Republicans do. For instance: I don't like the Bush Administration's policy on Illegal Immigrants. Instead of letting them all in we should have more security along the American Mexican Border, like a god damn electric fence that goes 15 foot high and 10 foot deep.

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Re: Quite possibly the best political cartoon ever. [message #160250 is a reply to message #160231] Thu, 16 June 2005 07:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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gbull wrote on Thu, 16 June 2005 08:20

A different view from mine? no. But when ALL of your views follow that of a political party you it becomes plain obvious you don't think for yourself. I consider myself conservative but I don't agree with everything Republicans do. For instance: I don't like the Bush Administration's policy on Illegal Immigrants. Instead of letting them all in we should have more security along the American Mexican Border, like a god damn electric fence that goes 15 foot high and 10 foot deep.


Speak on,I'm with you on that. Big Ups


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Re: Quite possibly the best political cartoon ever. [message #160338 is a reply to message #159541] Thu, 16 June 2005 16:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I wasn't talking about Engi specifically, in fact I've seen him say it as well.

And, gbull, if what you say is true, a number of the conservatives on this forum, as well as the liberal(s?) would incapable of thinking for themselves.
Re: Quite possibly the best political cartoon ever. [message #160361 is a reply to message #159541] Thu, 16 June 2005 17:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just so I know do american's see Liberalism as kind of the same as Communism? Because I've notices the "Republicans" use it in the same kind of tone I use Communism, ie scum.

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That's irrelevant to this thread.

Common fallacies of logic and rhetoric:
Ad hominem - attacking the arguer and not the argument.

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Re: Quite possibly the best political cartoon ever. [message #160363 is a reply to message #160361] Thu, 16 June 2005 17:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I still say the 4th comment was the best...

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Re: Quite possibly the best political cartoon ever. [message #160365 is a reply to message #160361] Thu, 16 June 2005 17:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Toolstyle wrote on Thu, 16 June 2005 20:01

Just so I know do american's see Liberalism as kind of the same as Communism? Because I've notices the "Republicans" use it in the same kind of tone I use Communism, ie scum.


Well, Republicans, namely the smear tactic kind, like to make believe a lot, specifically, make believe into thinking that liberalism is bad and awful and endorses baby eating and is led by Osama, etc. etc. To answer your question, no, only a few do.


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Re: Quite possibly the best political cartoon ever. [message #160374 is a reply to message #159541] Thu, 16 June 2005 19:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wait a minute SFE! Your graphic on percent change of income. What evil magic is being perpetrated here! The Rich with money, are making MORE money? Hmm... HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE. Oh wait... Never mind. Invest 100$ and then Invest 1,000,000$ SFE. You tell me which makes more in interest. Sarcasm

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Re: Quite possibly the best political cartoon ever. [message #160379 is a reply to message #159541] Thu, 16 June 2005 19:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's how much their after-tax income changed, Doitle. Namely, the rich make twice as much now as they did back in the day, and the poor make like 10% more. Not sure whether it's adjusted for inflation, though.

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)

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Re: Quite possibly the best political cartoon ever. [message #160387 is a reply to message #159541] Thu, 16 June 2005 21:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Uh-huh, so everyone is making more money... and you see that as a bad thing?
Excuse me, how are rich people screwing the poor again?
Oh, right, because all rich people achieved their positions in life because of the poor people they stepped on to get there, right?

EDIT: What the hell does the rich screwing the poor have to do with the political cartoon, anyway?


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Toolstyle wrote on Thu, 16 June 2005 19:31

Just so I know do american's see Liberalism as kind of the same as Communism? Because I've notices the "Republicans" use it in the same kind of tone I use Communism, ie scum.



Actually most Conservatives in this forum think for themselves. Take j_ball430 for example, just look at his sig and you can obviously see he doesnt follow Republicans blindly.


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As much as I would like to agree that conservatives are smarter, nicer, more attractive, and smell better than their liberal counter parts...

"Doitle"

Again you are straying far from Conservative mantra.


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Before you all get mad at me here I'm not entirely serious. But until one begins to form one's opinions completely independently of any input from the outside world, it would seem unreasonable to say someone cannot think for themselves because they see things differently.
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Hydra wrote on Fri, 17 June 2005 00:14

Uh-huh, so everyone is making more money... and you see that as a bad thing?
Excuse me, how are rich people screwing the poor again?
Oh, right, because all rich people achieved their positions in life because of the poor people they stepped on to get there, right?


Because the richest of the rich are taking all the new money in the country. There was a better chart in the Times, but that was about a month ago and I don't have the copy anymore.


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Re: Quite possibly the best political cartoon ever. [message #160436 is a reply to message #159541] Fri, 17 June 2005 09:11 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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So far, you've recycled the same statement four times in this thread alone; you keep saying WHAT the "rich" are doing to "screw over" the "poor," but you never explain HOW they are doing it.

C'mon, Tool, I really want to see your explanation of how rich people screw over poor people.

EDIT: Let's continue this discussion here.


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