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kinghigh1 wrote on Fri, 10 June 2005 10:10

Hell, I like saddam more and more each day.Who's to say he a bad person, I 'd vote for him over bush, in which bush would fix the votes like always.


Who's to say he's a bad person? Try the 4 million Kurds he gassed in the span of one day. Try the families of those tortured and killed in his special "interrogation" rooms.

Bush would fix the votes? Saddam would KILL anyone who voted for the opposing party, after sending them to the interrogation room. (JBall, care to provide the link of what they did in those rooms?)

Go ahead and praise Saddam. You will certainly be the only person in these forums who does.


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http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2003-04-13-saddam-se crets-usat_x.htm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2930739.stm
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=390 45
http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/6153325.htm

Four different sources, and the first two you KNOW are creditable, so shove it, kinghigh.

Oh, and just one of the quotes:

USA Today

"I was beaten, refrigerated naked and put underground for one year because I was a Shiite and Saddam is a Sunni," said Ali Kaddam Kardom, 37

Oh yes, Saddam is such a great man.


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Re: Do You Think Fighting For President Bush Is Worth Your Life? [message #159243 is a reply to message #155968] Fri, 10 June 2005 10:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey Renardin. Guess where I live. Oh I dont know, AMERICA. Guess how much it costs for gas over here Numbnuts. MORE THAN WHEN WE WENT INTO IRAQ. IF IT WERE FOR OIL I WOULD BE DRIVING DOWN THE BLOCK IN MY SILVERADO ON PREMIUM FUEL, BUT I'M NOT. I'm driving a Toyota Corolla Sparingly because Gas is over 2$. Shut the Fuck up Renardin. Also we have that Spell Checker now. Use it! It's not your first language, so use a tool. It's there to help you. Blocus? Irak? Come on...

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Re: Do You Think Fighting For President Bush Is Worth Your Life? [message #159248 is a reply to message #159225] Fri, 10 June 2005 12:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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kinghigh1 wrote on Fri, 10 June 2005 10:10

Yes im sane, Guess U.S.A. got 51 states now, cause our people in Iraq ain't ever coming home to stay.

Hell, I like saddam more and more each day.Who's to say he a bad person, I 'd vote for him over bush, in which bush would fix the votes like always.




LOL. Yes, Saddam is such a great guy. So much so that he assists terrorists, kills all that oppose him, and then burries them rather uncerimoniously in mass graves.

Wow, if you think doing that makes someone a great person, I'd hate to see what you actually consider evil. Perhaps helping out a fellow neighbour who's down on his luck?
Re: Do You Think Fighting For President Bush Is Worth Your Life? [message #159258 is a reply to message #155968] Fri, 10 June 2005 13:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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LMAO, of course gas still gonna be high, you really think prices would drop.That would be to like admitting he went over there for oil and would be to obivious.


Saddam killed the same people who killing us over there now. Fuck that everybody in the world should be free shit, that shit ain't as serious as destroying thousands of familys in the usa. just to say we freed iraq.

renedin6 , you proved a point, but people will over look it cause you involved with reborn.but I still wish some one would kill Bush


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Re: Do You Think Fighting For President Bush Is Worth Your Life? [message #159260 is a reply to message #155968] Fri, 10 June 2005 13:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wait, let me get your logic.

Saddamn gases the Kurds.
Kurds are pissed at Saddam.
We get rid of Saddam.
Kurds are pissed at us because we got rid of Saddam?

Wrong. The ones fighting our troops are called insugents.

in·sur·gent (n-sûrjnt)
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2. Rebelling against the leadership of a political party.

They oppose the new Iraqi government, which is actually going to try Saddam in court for crimes against humanity. Now, why would the ones who we being killed by Saddam suddenly want to be ruled by him again?

As for your explanation about the oil prices: Grow the fuck up. There isn't a big conspiracy to keep the oil prices high, then suddenly lower them from the gas we got in Iraq. Plus, it has been three years since we toppled Saddam. If we went in for oil, why haven't there been any news stories about oil investors going to Iraq? Surely they are big targets for the insurgents.

If you are going to make an argument, back it up with actual evidence. Because all you are posting here is a shit-faced opinion that nobody believes.


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Re: Do You Think Fighting For President Bush Is Worth Your Life? [message #159261 is a reply to message #155968] Fri, 10 June 2005 13:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So mass genocide is better, in your eyes, than our soldiers dying for our freedom and the freedom of the Iraqis. Please explain this one to me because I'm obviously far too stupid to understand such immense logic you display.

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Just to add on to what U927 has stated, the insurgents who are attacking the Americans were the ones who WANT Saddam to be in power. I highly doubt Saddam would be killing those who would support him.

Saddam, to restate, killed everyone who opposed him, and those whom he simply wanted to see dead. When he was removed from power, certain people did not like that and proceeded to attack the military forces who removed him from power, including remenants of the Iraqi military who are still loyal to Saddam. Ie, people who Saddam was not killing.

Edit: Now that I think about it, why is it not surprizing that someone who thinks Saddam is a good guy, also likes to look at someone's rear end?

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Doitle wrote on Fri, 10 June 2005 13:27

Also we have that Spell Checker now. Use it! It's not your first language, so use a tool. It's there to help you. Blocus? Irak? Come on...


Try to speak french then bring this back. Merci.

Well let Iraq people take care of their own destiny and then it will work.

USA got democracy because of the acts of americans. France got democracy because of the acts of french people...

Iraq will be what the iraqis want. Not what the USA want.

To have a strong democracy on a country, there is only one solution : it must be the result of the acts of the people of this country. And you all know it's true. (and don't bring me the argument about allies fighting nazis, it was different as it was a world war.)

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Re: Do You Think Fighting For President Bush Is Worth Your Life? [message #159286 is a reply to message #155968] Fri, 10 June 2005 17:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Iraq will be what the iraqis want. Not what the USA want.

The Iraqis want a civil and equal government, but they can't have that since the terrorists will blow up anyone who opposes their order. We stepped in to help them get what they want.


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Re: Do You Think Fighting For President Bush Is Worth Your Life? [message #159288 is a reply to message #159235] Fri, 10 June 2005 18:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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U927 wrote on Fri, 10 June 2005 11:36

kinghigh1 wrote on Fri, 10 June 2005 10:10

Hell, I like saddam more and more each day.Who's to say he a bad person, I 'd vote for him over bush, in which bush would fix the votes like always.


Who's to say he's a bad person? Try the 4 million Kurds he gassed in the span of one day. Try the families of those tortured and killed in his special "interrogation" rooms.

Bush would fix the votes? Saddam would KILL anyone who voted for the opposing party, after sending them to the interrogation room. (JBall, care to provide the link of what they did in those rooms?)

Go ahead and praise Saddam. You will certainly be the only person in these forums who does.



I hate Saddam as much as you, but the most people he has ever killed in a single gas attack was 10k, not 4 million.


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(and don't bring me the argument about allies fighting nazis, it was different as it was a world war.)


How would a world war make it different? Even so, you could technically call the war the U.S. is in now as being a world war, multiple nations fighting in multiple theatres of war spanning the globe.


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Gee Renardin. I don't seem to see this forum being a FRENCH Forum. So why WOULD I speak French here? I'm nere positive its an ENGLISH forum. Also, I don't have a French Spell Checker. You have an English Spell Checker.

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Nodbugger wrote on Fri, 10 June 2005 21:09

U927 wrote on Fri, 10 June 2005 11:36

kinghigh1 wrote on Fri, 10 June 2005 10:10

Hell, I like saddam more and more each day.Who's to say he a bad person, I 'd vote for him over bush, in which bush would fix the votes like always.


Who's to say he's a bad person? Try the 4 million Kurds he gassed in the span of one day. Try the families of those tortured and killed in his special "interrogation" rooms.

Bush would fix the votes? Saddam would KILL anyone who voted for the opposing party, after sending them to the interrogation room. (JBall, care to provide the link of what they did in those rooms?)

Go ahead and praise Saddam. You will certainly be the only person in these forums who does.


I hate Saddam as much as you, but the most people he has ever killed in a single gas attack was 10k, not 4 million.


Thanks for the correction. Thumbs Up


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Re: Do You Think Fighting For President Bush Is Worth Your Life? [message #159376 is a reply to message #159285] Sat, 11 June 2005 19:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Renardin6 wrote on Fri, 10 June 2005 16:49

Iraq will be what the iraqis want. Not what the USA want.

To have a strong democracy on a country, there is only one solution : it must be the result of the acts of the people of this country. And you all know it's true. (and don't bring me the argument about allies fighting nazis, it was different as it was a world war.)


This IS what the Iraqis want. They showed up in masses when the first elections were held, even through terrorists were threatening their lives if they dared to vote. We did not build Iraq's government in our image, just as the Afghanis did. They were assisted by us to create a government system that would work for them. You're not hearing that they have a Constitution the same as ours, the checks and balances and all. They are building their own government based on Democracy.


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I think what he meant to say was this: When we got our independence we did it without anyones help (Yes, France doesn't count.) So therefore, Iraq should fight for their independence eventually without help, because it's none of our business and we don't get anything out of it.

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prox wrote on Sun, 12 June 2005 08:42

I think what he meant to say was this: When we got our independence we did it without anyones help (Yes, France doesn't count.) So therefore, Iraq should fight for their independence eventually without help, because it's none of our business and we don't get anything out of it.


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Except last I hear, the French played a pretty important role in putting an end to any opposition to the U.S.'s maintainence of independence.

From what I hear. Sarcasm



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I didn't say they didn't help, I said they don't count Wink.

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Well, then I suppose it would be fair to say that the French liberated their country from Nazi oppression by themselves because the allies don't count. Wink


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The colonists would have beaten the Brits either way. France only came to help after the colonists were starting to beat the Brits.

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U927 wrote on Fri, 10 June 2005 15:26

Wait, let me get your logic.

Saddamn gases the Kurds.
Kurds are pissed at Saddam.
We get rid of Saddam.
Kurds are pissed at us because we got rid of Saddam?

Wrong. The ones fighting our troops are called insugents.

in·sur·gent (n-sûrjnt)
adj.
1. Rising in revolt against established authority, especially a government.
2. Rebelling against the leadership of a political party.

They oppose the new Iraqi government, which is actually going to try Saddam in court for crimes against humanity. Now, why would the ones who we being killed by Saddam suddenly want to be ruled by him again?

As for your explanation about the oil prices: Grow the fuck up. There isn't a big conspiracy to keep the oil prices high, then suddenly lower them from the gas we got in Iraq. Plus, it has been three years since we toppled Saddam. If we went in for oil, why haven't there been any news stories about oil investors going to Iraq? Surely they are big targets for the insurgents.

If you are going to make an argument, back it up with actual evidence. Because all you are posting here is a shit-faced opinion that nobody believes.



Why can't the Iraqis fight for their own freedom now? saddam gone.


Is it me or do it just look like our troops the only ones fighting for the Iraqis freedom? answer that!


I can post all the shit-faced opinions I want,besides thats what make forums interesting,check how deep the thread getting Sarcasm


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Sure, according to the liberal media reports that it's just our troops fighting for their freedom, but that's because the media hates Bush. There's nothing but negative reported.

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j_ball430 wrote on Sun, 12 June 2005 15:56

The colonists would have beaten the Brits either way. France only came to help after the colonists were starting to beat the Brits.


Too bad there is no way for you to back this up seeing how that's not how it actually happened historically.



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Battle of Saratoga. Colonists defeated the British, and the colonists started to turn the tide of the war. It wasn't until after they won in Saratoga did the French join the war.

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