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| Re: Kerry, Bush had similar grades [message #158926 is a reply to message #158798] |
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Thus proving, once again, that grades aren't everything (if anything at all, other than a resume stuffer).
Or for those people who still believe that so-called "good" grades actually tell you a damn thing about how smart/intelligent/knowledgeable a person is, it proves that both (major) presidential candidates were douche bags.
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| Re: Kerry, Bush had similar grades [message #159035 is a reply to message #158988] |
Wed, 08 June 2005 15:10 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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notice the the hush over the liberal group in our community. SFE where did you go?
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Oh please. I didn't reply because this is silly.
Grades, as they stand, do not account for intelligence. I have a friend who's really just as smart as I am, yet he gets low Bs and I'm a straight A student. I'm sure you all know the school cliche of how Einstein got low grades in school. There's also as Calvin & Hobbes cartoon that goes,
Calvin: "You know how Einstein got bad grades in school? Well, mine are even WORSE!"
Grades are nice, but they aren't the end-all of intelligence. That's what online IQ tests are for.
Gbull: Sorry I haven't gotten back to that thread about Saddam's mass graves. I've been busy for the past week with some CG stuff for my dad and it's been finals week. Don't worry, it's not forgotten, but I'm going to have to research a while to answer it. My final finals are tomorrow, though, so I'll be back full-time soon...
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"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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| Re: Kerry, Bush had similar grades [message #159042 is a reply to message #159035] |
Wed, 08 June 2005 15:45 |
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I don't think ONLINE IQ tests are necessarily the best judge either. There are more complete tests that can be administered by psychologists that are more conclusive.
I wonder what SFE's response would have been if it turned out Bush had worse grades. I bet he wouldn't have tried to justify it.
I'm the bawss.
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| Re: Kerry, Bush had similar grades [message #159051 is a reply to message #158798] |
Wed, 08 June 2005 17:06 |
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Definitely Bush. Kerry spent too much time growing his chin to grow a big penis.
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That's irrelevant to this thread.
Common fallacies of logic and rhetoric:
Ad hominem - attacking the arguer and not the argument.
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| Re: Kerry, Bush had similar grades [message #159057 is a reply to message #159042] |
Wed, 08 June 2005 18:38 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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| Crimson wrote on Wed, 08 June 2005 18:45 |
I don't think ONLINE IQ tests are necessarily the best judge either. There are more complete tests that can be administered by psychologists that are more conclusive.
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That was sarcasm. I guess you weren't on IRC when I took an IQ test. Just ask Aurora.
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I wonder what SFE's response would have been if it turned out Bush had worse grades. I bet he wouldn't have tried to justify it.
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Of course I wouldn't have tried to justify it. But at the same time I wouldn't be saying, "See, this proves Bush isn't smart!"
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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| Re: Kerry, Bush had similar grades [message #159064 is a reply to message #159059] |
Wed, 08 June 2005 19:04 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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Bullshit you wouldn't.
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Honestly, what am I supposed to say to that? No, I wouldn't? Bolster your argument.
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"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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| Re: Kerry, Bush had similar grades [message #159065 is a reply to message #159063] |
Wed, 08 June 2005 19:06 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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| gbull wrote on Wed, 08 June 2005 22:04 |
Yea I know right, He posts every little article that goes against the Republican Party. Had it said Bush had worse grades than Kerry he would have pounced on it like a starving Rotweiler on a T-bone.  
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Gbull, I post about an article every 2 months. You should see some of the stuff I read. Believe me, I don't post 1/30th, literally, of what I read that's contrary to the sitting administration.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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| Re: Kerry, Bush had similar grades [message #159079 is a reply to message #159064] |
Wed, 08 June 2005 22:54 |
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| SuperFlyingEngi wrote on Wed, 08 June 2005 19:04 |
EDIT[S]: Repeated errors with quotation system. Bring back the old forums!
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Not going to happen. Firstly we'd lose all the posts made since I changed, secondly, we will continue to be attacked whenever the next phpBB exploit is discovered. Changing back would be a serious downgrade and is not even going to be considered.
I'm sorry, but you're the only one here who thinks that if some article had come out that said Bush had shitty grades in school, you wouldn't pounce on it.
I'm the bawss.
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| Re: Kerry, Bush had similar grades [message #159228 is a reply to message #158798] |
Fri, 10 June 2005 07:54 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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I know the old forums aren't coming back, but I at least preferred the layout/design/whatever it is.
By my count, I've seen three responses about my potential posting of a grades-related article. Your 2/3 majority is really very compelling. And even then, popular opinion means nothing about actual facts. Everyone on the entire planet except for one person could believe that the moon is really the size of a dinner table, but that wouldn't make it true, now would it? That one person wouldn't even have to not believe it to make it not true.
Again, if you're going to make accusations, you need a real reason.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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| Re: Kerry, Bush had similar grades [message #159468 is a reply to message #159228] |
Sun, 12 June 2005 13:01 |
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| SuperFlyingEngi wrote on Fri, 10 June 2005 10:54 |
I And even then, popular opinion means nothing about actual facts. Everyone on the entire planet except for one person could believe that the moon is really the size of a dinner table, but that wouldn't make it true, now would it?
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Why do you say we shouldn't have gone into Iraq simply because the popular opinion of the world says we shouldn't, SuperFlyingLiberalHypocrite?
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| Re: Kerry, Bush had similar grades [message #159582 is a reply to message #159468] |
Mon, 13 June 2005 06:38 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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Yeah, I read that and didn't know what the hell you were trying to say.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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| Re: Kerry, Bush had similar grades [message #159597 is a reply to message #159582] |
Mon, 13 June 2005 09:50 |
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| SuperFlyingEngi wrote on Mon, 13 June 2005 09:38 |
Yeah, I read that and didn't know what the hell you were trying to say.
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Oh c'mon, a liberal with a superior intellect to that of all conservatives like yourself should be able to figure it out, or are you really not as smart as you'd like us to believe?
You believe the war in Iraq was wrong simply because the world says it was wrong, yet you turn right around and say it doesn't matter what the world says if it doesn't line up with the facts. Your contradictions are as clear as your bullshit arguments are see-through.
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| Re: Kerry, Bush had similar grades [message #159758 is a reply to message #159597] |
Tue, 14 June 2005 00:52 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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The war in Iraq isn't wrong in my mind because other countries say it was. Stop putting words in my mouth. The war in Iraq was wrong because:
A) WMDs were a straight up lie. Finding 5 sarin gas canisters years after the invasion means nothing of Saddam's stockpiles, since those canisters could have come from anywhere.
B) The nuclear program thing was a lie, too.
C) Now there's a full-on civil war in Iraq that can't be stopped, and an enormous number of our soldiers are going to die unless we leave right now, since there's nothing that they will be able to do.
But let's not make this an Iraq thread. I still need to get back to gbull.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
The Liberal Media At Work
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