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| Should ACK be banned? [message #151440] |
Mon, 25 April 2005 16:44   |
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warranto
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In such a case, I'd be more than happy to tell him to shut up. However, thanks to the wonders of modern technology, there is an "ignore button". If you don't want him to interrupt topics, hit that button. It's quite simple.
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So let me get this straight.. just so there is no missinterpretation on my part. If we were talking face to face, what ACK constantly does would warrant (no pun intended) a response of "shut up" from you. However, since we have another feature called "ignore", it is our fault if he continues, and there is no reason for you to tell him to "shut up".. Did I get that right? Since we're in to "real world examples" lets have another.. If my daughter sees a mans 10 inch erect cock on the side of the road, it's her fault for looking at it, and we should just ignore the person standing there nude, after all.. she has a neck, she should use it.
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I fail to see how criminal acts relate to someone being annoying, but lets go with it. I also fail to see how the "hearing of words vs. seeing of words" compares to the "seeing of pornography", but I can state my opinion.
Tell you what, the next time Aircraftkiller posts pornography, I'll do what I would do with the person on the street. Put a stop to it. Whether that be reporting it to the police, removing the offensive post, or recommending a ban; as the situation demands.
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| Should ACK be banned? [message #151441] |
Mon, 25 April 2005 16:49 |
msgtpain
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Kind of like how everyone else is allowed to do the same thing? (As Crimson and spoony pointed out earlier)
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You're absolutely right, Crimson did speak her mind in a post, how she feels and the reasons she does what she does.. and I applaud her for that. (and the fact that she didn't tell everyone it was their fault that topics are derailed when ack posts in them)
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| Should ACK be banned? [message #151443] |
Mon, 25 April 2005 16:51 |
msgtpain
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I fail to see how criminal acts relate to someone being annoying, but lets go with it. I also fail to see how the "hearing of words vs. seeing of words" compares to the "seeing of pornography", but I can state my opinion.
Tell you what, the next time Aircraftkiller posts pornography, I'll do what I would do with the person on the street. Put a stop to it. Whether that be reporting it to the police, removing the offensive post, or recommending a ban; as the situation demands.
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I thought you were like a legal assistant in training or something, no? So enlighten me, why is it a criminal act? is it because a society has determined that there are specific guidelines and codes of conduct that they want enforced to keep the peace? Could that be in any way shape or form applied to someone that has no purpose in a community for any reason other than tormenting the other citizens?
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| Should ACK be banned? [message #151444] |
Mon, 25 April 2005 16:51 |
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warranto
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And this is the problem with society today, the unwillingness to place blame where it is due. "It's not MY fault I hit the guy, he started it!"; "I don't like that guy, so I'm going to blame everything I can on him, and accept none of it!"
BOTH are to blame, Aircraftkiller for starting it, and everyone else for continuing it. Therefore, if something is going to happen to one side, the exact same thing has to happen to the other side.
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| Should ACK be banned? [message #151445] |
Mon, 25 April 2005 16:55 |
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IRON FART
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OK then.
Tell me: What is ACK's reason for coming here to annoy people?
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Did you ever go on irc to seeif you could get banned? Did you ever laugh because people were getting annoyed at you? I did when I first got the internet. Iwas young then, he's still doing the same thing.
He's not going to get banned, get over it. I appreciate that he really pisses a lotof you guys off, but I do also realise that everyone responds. The moment he posts something it turns into a flamewar. If his comments sway off topic, ignore them.
I like the way that he's even managing to laugh at this now by posting using only his last page of previous posts, the link to which was posted on here. Look at this, a 4-page thread on getting him banned, and how early on did you say he will not get banned Crimson?
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I stopped going to IRC 2 years ago after I got kicked out for having "FART" in my name.
I realised yesterday that there is no chance of him getting banned.
Hell, I got banned from here a long time ago for being less of an asshole - And I had a reason to be. I wasn't being an asshole just to piss people off like ACK does.
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The only thing he's doing is being annoying. There's nothing in the rules stating that he can't have his own opinion or he can't correct others' spelling and grammar.
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There is also nothing in the rules about SPAMMING threads with things that are completely off topic.
What's your point? Are you going to redefine spam?
I realise that Crimson & Blazer (Possibly Warranto?) have the last word if he gets banned or not. Well, I respect that. I understand that you lot are the only ones that can make that desicion. But you've said yourself that this is pretty much what is left of the official community and that you'd like to preserve it. Well I don't see it being preserved when there is someone like ACK running arround trying to piss people off. It is OBVIOUS that there are many here who don't feel comfortable with him around.
You aren't obliged to take any action, but if you don't, this place is just going to become really, really shitty. It's your choice.
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Quote from IRC
<[Digital]> get man_fucking_a_car.mpg
<[Digital]> ah fuck wrong window
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| Should ACK be banned? [message #151448] |
Mon, 25 April 2005 16:58 |
msgtpain
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And this is the problem with society today, the unwillingness to place blame where it is due. "It's not MY fault I hit the guy, he started it!"; "I don't like that guy, so I'm going to blame everything I can on him, and accept none of it!"
BOTH are to blame, Aircraftkiller for starting it, and everyone else for continuing it. Therefore, if something is going to happen to one side, the exact same thing has to happen to the other side.
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To the first paragraph, that's called self defense, and there definately is no blame to be placed on the person that hits back, as long as they don't pummel the poor bastard.
As for the second, I completely agree.. I see no problem with telling everyone to stop responding to ACK's posts.. But as you said, what happens to one side must happen to the other.. so could you also please make a public post requesting that ACK stops making the childish topic derailing posts? Thanks a bunch.
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| Should ACK be banned? [message #151452] |
Mon, 25 April 2005 17:16 |
msgtpain
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Perhaps it's us who are not getting through. The ignore button is there for a reason, use it. If Aircraftkiller goes off on one of his tirades, ignore it. If people start responding, and the conversation goes way off course, ignore it. Let them have their own little discussion.
Remember, you contribute to the derailment as much as he does when you reply to the topic.
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Like I said... The world you live in must be warm and fuzzy, at least I hope so.
I'll leave it at this, I think I've sufficiently shown what I came here to show.
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| Should ACK be banned? [message #151453] |
Mon, 25 April 2005 17:17 |
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IRON FART
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Well if he was banned, wouldn't that be putting out the fire from the source?
If he didn't post retarded things, then nobody would reply to him, and a thread would not be derailed. Where is this flawed?
Realistically, most of the people here aren't going to ignore him, and he will still get away with derailing threads.
EDIT: I have a feeling that this thread is going to be locked and that absolutely nothing is going to be done about ACK.
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<[Digital]> get man_fucking_a_car.mpg
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| Should ACK be banned? [message #151474] |
Mon, 25 April 2005 20:10 |
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glyde51
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]Hey everyone! Let's talk about how RenAlert sucks!
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Fuck off, please.
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NOU!
No. Seriously. No.
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| Should ACK be banned? [message #151497] |
Tue, 26 April 2005 01:02 |
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Crimson
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These forums have never been a warm, inviting, friendly place... not before I ever heard of Renegade, not when I started posting during the beta test, not when Westwood ran them... Is that a direct result of ACK's continued presence in them? Perhaps. Lord knows he's made it his personal goal in life to annoy people on these forums. The problem is, if I banned him and told him not to post here anymore, then within a week there would be a topic and long discussion about banning deadfive, then spoony, and so on. You hold the power to change the landscape of this place, each and every one of you. You start with yourself. Set an example and try to make it apparent that you are not going to act a certain way anymore. Me waving the banstick around isn't going to help anything... all it will do is piss people off.
I'm the bawss.
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