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cool idea [message #147395] Sat, 02 April 2005 18:39 Go to next message
bandie63 is currently offline  bandie63
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I was wondering if someone could model a new flame for the ftank... It would just be like a little bullet like the auto rifle. That way, it wouldnt decrease fps as much Very Happy Thanks in advance!



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cool idea [message #147399] Sat, 02 April 2005 18:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Faster solution: buy a better video card.

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cool idea [message #147424] Sat, 02 April 2005 19:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Expensive solution: buy a better video card.

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cool idea [message #147431] Sat, 02 April 2005 19:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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But it's faster.

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cool idea [message #147442] Sat, 02 April 2005 20:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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bandie63, what graphics card do you have?

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cool idea [message #147449] Sat, 02 April 2005 20:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The flame tank flame doesn't reduce the FPS all that much, it's just when there are like 3 or 4 or even more of them together, then the FPS reduces. But having said that, the same happens for any tank.

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cool idea [message #147455] Sat, 02 April 2005 21:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
icedog90 is currently offline  icedog90
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My video card is OK and the FPS never did go below 20 in a flame rush.

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cool idea [message #147461] Sat, 02 April 2005 23:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I myself like this idea, and would like to see something like this done. I can not handle 8 or more flame tanks, because im usually in servers with 30 people or more, and no vehicle limits because you can repair most back to full hp.

My fps decreases alot in large rushes with flame tanks, and i could see this type of thing that bandit wants only being a benifit in that category.
Telling people to buy a new video card, just because they wan't their game to run better is insane. I can still play the game fine , but i would like it a hell of alot more if the flame was changed.

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cool idea [message #147491] Sun, 03 April 2005 05:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On my older comp my FPS went to 5 in a flame tank rush.

Now it stays above 30...

If this can be changed please do so.

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cool idea [message #147492] Sun, 03 April 2005 05:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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my fps does not drop below 40 on a flamer rush....I have a radeon 9800se 128mb

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cool idea [message #147521] Sun, 03 April 2005 08:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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bandie63, what graphics card do you have?


intel extreme intergrated :oops:

so... can someone do it?

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cool idea [message #147538] Sun, 03 April 2005 09:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It should just be a simple matter of changing the projectile model, and anyone who has fps probs and dnt mind the flame tank looking like its firing bullets can download it

but the number of projectiles would not changes, so I dont think it would actually make an awful lot of difference. The reason it kills fps is because of the amount of projectiles its firing at once.

Also, if ur changing the model then RG would probably not like it...

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cool idea [message #147541] Sun, 03 April 2005 10:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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bandie63

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bandie63, what graphics card do you have?


intel extreme intergrated :oops:

so... can someone do it?


yea, shite card lol, just buy another.

however, to change the flame ammo animation with something as you described you would be required to put the w3d in your data directory.
This would be blocked by Renguard.

Anyways, I've just created a simple emitter.
Just put it in your data..
http://cabalonline.com/downloads/renegade/e_flametank.zip

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cool idea [message #147553] Sun, 03 April 2005 11:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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thx


ps: i dont use RG. it blocks some cool moddles i have... where is that thing where you get it (alternate moddles) approved?

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cool idea [message #147555] Sun, 03 April 2005 11:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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even if you have a great video card the high amount of particles in the flames make the server FPS drop like a bitch when there is a flame rush Sad
you might not be around and if the vis setting are all set up properly it wont kill your video card, however the poor server has to draw everything for everyone Sad
however you can remove some files from the always2.dat server side using xxcmixer to help reduce this, after all the server doesnt need to draw it all does it... its not like it needs to see the flames, and the flames are controlled client side so its not like it actually effects anything.
But yeah a nice improved and streamlined flame would be nice client side, and rg approved would also have to be a must.. cp2..?

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cool idea [message #147577] Sun, 03 April 2005 12:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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icedog90

But it's faster.


how can you be so sure

buying a new video card requires you to walk or drive or bus or whatever to the shop look for a card and a nice price buy it and get back home then you have to install it update drivers etc.. where i live that would take me a good 2-3 hours

to change the flame for the tank would require you to make a very small model which could take what 5 mins?


also andy anychance you can show a screenshot of your emitter thing working O_o
does this also change for the flame trooper?

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cool idea [message #147579] Sun, 03 April 2005 13:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Majiin Vegeta

how can you be so sure

buying a new video card requires you to walk or drive or bus or whatever to the shop look for a card and a nice price buy it and get back home then you have to install it update drivers etc.. where i live that would take me a good 2-3 hours


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Plus, your idea of buying a new video card would actually be faster. This topic has been around for a day until someone finally made a replacement. Your idea of buying a video card would take 2-3 hours.

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cool idea [message #147594] Sun, 03 April 2005 14:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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icedog90

But it's faster.

also andy anychance you can show a screenshot of your emitter thing working O_o


funny thing about that... i didnt notice any change

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cool idea [message #147617] Sun, 03 April 2005 16:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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icedog90

But it's faster.


how can you be so sure

buying a new video card requires you to walk or drive or bus or whatever to the shop look for a card and a nice price buy it and get back home then you have to install it update drivers etc.. where i live that would take me a good 2-3 hours

Nah, you just goto ebuyer Razz

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also andy anychance you can show a screenshot of your emitter thing working O_o

Yea, here's a SS..

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does this also change for the flame trooper?


No, the flame trooper uses a different emitter, I can do one for that aswell if you like Razz[/url]

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cool idea [message #147632] Sun, 03 April 2005 17:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The emitter is not what causes framerate issues. I did this "replace the emitter" stuff a long time ago to keep higher framerates during mass assaults and the result was identical, even with two or three puffs of flame per five seconds.

It's the CPU processing. The computer has to calculate the flame projectiles, because it works like a huge double barreled shotgun. More than three of these will bog down any CPU because of the intense processing that's happening.

It most certainly is not the emitter. As I said, I tested this before... Well over a year ago.

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cool idea [message #147687] Mon, 04 April 2005 01:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
WNxCABAL is currently offline  WNxCABAL
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I thought it was just me when the FPS didn't improve when using the replacement.
Agh well, bandie63, just buy another card!

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cool idea [message #147712] Mon, 04 April 2005 05:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I always thought it was the emitter...

Good to know this. I may be able to fix this in my "stuff".

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cool idea [message #147825] Mon, 04 April 2005 15:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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See, the only option is to upgrade your video card or CPU.

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cool idea [message #147887] Mon, 04 April 2005 17:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Renegade is mostly CPU based I've heard. So It would just be better to upgrade your CPU.

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cool idea [message #147911] Mon, 04 April 2005 20:50 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
icedog90 is currently offline  icedog90
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That's not true, because a long time ago when I first got this computer, I still had to use the same video card from my old one and it was only like a 15 FPS increase overall. That was from 500mhz to 2.1ghz.

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