| Command & Conquer Coming to PSP [message #146352] |
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Westwood Studios, famed developer of the Command & Conquer series, recently commented to CNN on the launch of Sony's PSP video game handheld. During the brief interview, the President of Electronic Arts, who now own Westwood Studios, revealed that a Command & Conquer game will appear on the PSP.
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http://www.modojo.com/articles/news/20050328/80/
I dunno how good a RTS would work on the PSP... on the DS it would work better b/c off the touchscreen...
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| Command & Conquer Coming to PSP [message #146354] |
Tue, 29 March 2005 06:51  |
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It'd be very good to play C&C with a touchscreen. You might need a little "no" button on the sidebar to deselct though, but for commanding units it'd kick ass to poke them and point them on their way XD
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| Command & Conquer Coming to PSP [message #146363] |
Tue, 29 March 2005 07:56 |
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Demolition man
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I'd rather have far superior graphics then some cheap gimmick.
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so GFX is more important then gameplay for you.
The PSP Value pack is $249 thats the price to compare it with b/c nintendo doesn't just sell the NDS they also add stuff so its $100 more...
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| Command & Conquer Coming to PSP [message #146365] |
Tue, 29 March 2005 08:05 |
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I'd rather have far superior graphics then some cheap gimmick.
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so GFX is more important then gameplay for you.
The PSP Value pack is $249 thats the price to compare it with b/c nintendo doesn't just sell the NDS they also add stuff so its $100 more...
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No, gameplay is more important to me then graphics. The DS having a cheap useless gimmick doesn't constitute gameplay.
The PSP is $180, the DS is $150, a $30 difference. The PSP bundles include games, cases, earphones, demos, etc., it is in no way comparable to the DS by itself.
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| Command & Conquer Coming to PSP [message #146370] |
Tue, 29 March 2005 08:38 |
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Demolition man
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I dunno where u get ur hardware... but i just check the net quick and bestbuy has it for 250... and amazon has the value pack for $319.97...
The PSP isn't out in euroland so i can't check my own stores... The NDS is 150 here i thought.
O and i don't see the touchscreen as a useless gimmick you can have way better control for RTS and FPS games..
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| Command & Conquer Coming to PSP [message #146371] |
Tue, 29 March 2005 08:46 |
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I'd love to know how Westwood Studios commented on anything, when they haven't existed in any form for several years.
"I'm prepared to make the necessary move."
A personal quote? From who, exactly?
Why would the games have to be totally revamped for the UMD architecture? UMD is the storage format, not the console architecture.
Also, any RTS that has to be controlled with anything other than a mouse is going to FAIL. I'm looking at you, C&C N64. There's a reason why EA didn't whip out an Xbox port of Generals - the control paradigm doesn't work without a mouse.
The exception to this would, ironically, be the DS. Touchscreen/stylus would be an almost perfect way to play an RTS.
Or, in other words, the article is fake or horribly incorrect.
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| Command & Conquer Coming to PSP [message #146382] |
Tue, 29 March 2005 10:17 |
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I dunno where u get ur hardware... but i just check the net quick and bestbuy has it for 250... and amazon has the value pack for $319.97...
The PSP isn't out in euroland so i can't check my own stores... The NDS is 150 here i thought.
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This package comes with 32MB Memory Stick Duo, headphones with remote control, battery pack, AC adapter, soft case and cleaning cloth, movie/music/game video sampler UMD disc and a special UMD video release of the feature film Spider-Man 2.
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You're still comparing the price of the PSP bundle to the DS by itself. Like I said, the PSP is $180 and the DS is $150, how much the bundle is compared to the DS itself is completely irrelevant.
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O and i don't see the touchscreen as a useless gimmick you can have way better control for RTS and FPS games..
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For a strategy game or another similar top-down style game, yeah, but it would suck in FPS games.
The PSP's controls would still be good for an RTS. You can use the analog stick/nub as the cursor (like a mouse), X for selecting, Square for deselecting, O and the direction buttons for creating groups, Triangle and the direction buttons for making bookmarks to quickly go back to a certain area. Select to access the building menu, and Start to pause/options.
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| Command & Conquer Coming to PSP [message #146383] |
Tue, 29 March 2005 10:20 |
PiMuRho
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Analogue sticks are too linear for the mouse-style control that an RTS needs.
How long would it take to move your cursor from one side of the screen to the other with a stick compared to a mouse? How about drag selecting?
Why do you think RTS games haven't been a particularly big hit on consoles?
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| Command & Conquer Coming to PSP [message #146384] |
Tue, 29 March 2005 10:27 |
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How long would it take to move your cursor from one side of the screen to the other with a stick compared to a mouse? How about drag selecting?
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Probably not as quickly, but it depends on how much you move the nub.
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Why do you think RTS games haven't been a particularly big hit on consoles?
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No reason. Sony makes a keyboard and mouse for the PS2, so if there were RTS games on the PS2 and someone wanted to they could play it with a keyboard and mouse.
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| Command & Conquer Coming to PSP [message #146385] |
Tue, 29 March 2005 10:29 |
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The reason is that
a) Controllers suck for controlling a cursor
b) Having to buy extra hardware (mouse) just to play a game will put people off buying the game.
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| Command & Conquer Coming to PSP [message #146390] |
Tue, 29 March 2005 11:04 |
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I heard that the NDS touchscreen has half a second delay. If so then that really would be bad.
Also remember that mouse precision is alot more advanced than that of an analogue stick.
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| Command & Conquer Coming to PSP [message #146404] |
Tue, 29 March 2005 12:39 |
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Demolition man
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I dunno where u get ur hardware... but i just check the net quick and bestbuy has it for 250... and amazon has the value pack for $319.97...
The PSP isn't out in euroland so i can't check my own stores... The NDS is 150 here i thought.
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This package comes with 32MB Memory Stick Duo, headphones with remote control, battery pack, AC adapter, soft case and cleaning cloth, movie/music/game video sampler UMD disc and a special UMD video release of the feature film Spider-Man 2.
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You're still comparing the price of the PSP bundle to the DS by itself. Like I said, the PSP is $180 and the DS is $150, how much the bundle is compared to the DS itself is completely irrelevant.
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The DS has its own extra's with it for the 150. Like battery, Metrio demo, adapter, headphones, stylus and more that i don't know.
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| Command & Conquer Coming to PSP [message #146408] |
Tue, 29 March 2005 12:58 |
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DS is better than PSP. Sony couldnt design their way out of the asian market.
They dont have any care in the world for quality, their games are always sports or some shitty racing game and when they fuck up, they dont make any effort to correct themselve or learn from their mistakes.
The PSP at my local walmart is $250. Thats $100 over the DS for a sytem where the square button doesnt work, and headphones. HEADPHONES!?!? come on! I would hate to see you guys at a car dealership
"Oh man come on Tod, its 3 grand over Terry car lot, you have to make me some kind of offer. Headphones you say? Great deal Tod, great deal. Oh i dont care if the transmission doesnt work."
NO.
Dont forget the disk shoots out like a ninja star if you slighty twist the system.
"What Tod? I can re-buy my games for the same price after they broke in half? Gee Tod, your too nice to me."
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| Command & Conquer Coming to PSP [message #146467] |
Tue, 29 March 2005 16:08 |
Chronojam
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The PSP's controls would still be good for an RTS. You can use the analog stick/nub as the cursor (like a mouse), X for selecting, Square for deselecting, O and the direction buttons for creating groups, Triangle and the direction buttons for making bookmarks to quickly go back to a certain area. Select to access the building menu, and Start to pause/options.
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Bullshit. It's hard to play simple ol' TS on a real computer with a little accupoint cursor controller, I doubt it'd become suddenly easier with less keybinds to pick from.
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| Command & Conquer Coming to PSP [message #146469] |
Tue, 29 March 2005 16:12 |
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I would have to go with the ds. Not because i'm a nintendo fan boy, but because my hands are a bit crap and I keep dropping my gb advanced, it hasn't broken once. The sp though has almost no shielding. Odd I know, but I have to consider these things.
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| Command & Conquer Coming to PSP [message #146492] |
Tue, 29 March 2005 17:38 |
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^^DS is a lot more durable. I just saw my friend's PSP, he said that it scratches sooo easily.
I do agree, C&C would be better with the touch screen.
w00t?
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| Command & Conquer Coming to PSP [message #146498] |
Tue, 29 March 2005 17:48 |
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Sony's making everyone in the US sell the PSP as the value pack because they lost their ass on the Japanese launch. Everyone bought systems, but the tie ratio for software and accessories was one of the lowest ever for a system launch. Thus, they force the tie ratio higher here so they're not losing as much. I imagine the European launch will be similar. So, saying the PSP costs $180 is a lie. It was going to sell for $199 separately anyhow, so I am not sure where you're making up your info from.
As for the DS being worse off, it would be infinitely better for an RTS, and you get just as many extras with it for $150 as you do with a PSP for 100 bucks more. The DS also has a huge library right off the bat with older GBA/GBC games, and with the wireless connectivity and microphone people are working on VoIP software for it as well as many other homebrew applications. The PSP will also have these but nothing as useful as free phone calls, I'd imagine.
Lastly, Sony makes shitty hardware. This is their 3rd system that has launched with admitted (and unadmitted) defects. That's a bad track record considering they've only launched 3 systems. Nintendo's systems work for many years down the road under the harshest of conditions. I know people who have flushed GBs and GBAs down the toilet to have them work once they dried off. I took a GBA in the ocean and it worked just fine about 10 minutes after I pulled it out. I took a heat gun to the front of a GBA and it melted the screen protector but once I took that off it worked fine. I'd love to see a Sony system do that... Hell, your PS/PS2 will have trouble under normal wear and tear after a few years because they're made of shitty parts.
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