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clear scope skin [message #137951] Sat, 12 February 2005 23:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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what else you have to say on the matter?

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clear scope skin [message #137958] Sun, 13 February 2005 00:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nod can hit the Weapons Factory, Power Plant, Tiberium Refinery, and Advanced Guard Tower from the top of the hill.



And Barracks, while keeping the top clear of Meds and Mrls.

GDI can hit Ref, Obe, and HON. A Med can also keep the top clear of all Arti's.

Gee, makes me think what would happen if I played myself on both sides on HG. Then it would be a draw. "giggle"

Clear scope, well if you wanna talk about that, you may as well talk about the skins that make stanks show better, etc.. I know I don't.

Personally, I have never used skins or different scopes, so I can't add to this part, never needed them and I know my game is fine without them. I also never snipe until I need to help cover a Nuke/Ion, or help my team with killing repairers or 1000 characters (if there are no other's on my team already), which I think was the original meaning of the sniper. I will continue to lmao at Snipers that shoot tanks for points, prolly using a clear scope no less "giggle again" Cool


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clear scope skin [message #137969] Sun, 13 February 2005 01:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Giving you a full field of vision when zoomed in as opposed to about 40% of the screen does not make you shoot any more accurately. You still have to track the target and make the shot just like any other person does, and it still comes down to skill. As other people have pointed out, the best snipers rarely use the scope anyhow. Personally, I snipe just as well with a PIC or a Raveshaw as I do with scoped characters.

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clear scope skin [message #138005] Sun, 13 February 2005 07:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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exactly Deathgod, not to mention MOST dont use the scope for its full field of vision as good snipers dont stay in the scope for very long when they need it. One might be able to argue the clearscope puts less skilled players at a dissadvantage because overuse of the scope makes you an easy target for a skilled sniper.

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clear scope skin [message #138015] Sun, 13 February 2005 08:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I use it, I use a 15" monitor. Basically I think they cancel each other out. I miss my 19 Sad
Anyways if people want to call it a cheat, any skins with colours are cheats, stealth skins are cheats, vehicle colour changes are cheats.
OGM PEOPLE WHO HAVE T3 CHEAT, THEIR PING IS TOO LOW!?!?1/1!1
If you want to be anal about the smallest advantage then why not do it for all the little ones? I've never seen anyone call someone with 20kbps a cheater. It's worse than any because people just walk into walls so yeah


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clear scope skin [message #138019] Sun, 13 February 2005 10:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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no, it is CHEATING


dont agree.

Its part of the game so either:

[1] join a totally Pure server.
[2] play something else.
[3] get over it.

falls into the same catagory as whining about any number of Renegade related topics not limited to but including:
N00bjets
Camping
Letting Structures die to gain advantages
etc etc


it is not a part of the game, it is an external file that is planted into your data directory

going by your logic, Final Renegade must be "part of the game" as well since it is an external file like clear scope, so does that mean i can join your server and start useing Final Renegade and it would be ok?

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[1] join a totally Pure server.


they disallow legit skins

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falls into the same catagory as whining about any number of Renegade related topics not limited to but including:
N00bjets
Camping
Letting Structures die to gain advantages
etc etc


all 3 of those things are legit,

its the same as bright colour skins, its cheating, as its impossable to hide in the shadows from these people.

clear scope is a cheat because you have an unfair advantage over other players, being able to see a wider range of the field while in scope mode

how is that not giving you an advantage over other players?

nuff said
clear scope skin [message #138064] Sun, 13 February 2005 14:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Big difference between clear scope and FR. Like death said, you can see more - that won't change your accuracy. It's just like breaking the law. Going 61 or in a 60 vs 200 in a 60

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clear scope skin [message #138065] Sun, 13 February 2005 14:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It won't increase your accuracy, but it WILL give you a clearer look at the field letting you see more enemies.

whoa.
clear scope skin [message #138072] Sun, 13 February 2005 14:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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so.... how many of you employ such things? game enhancements, i mean. this clear scope, or camo skins, and any other things not found in the original game.
and are those people to be concidered cheaters? i dont mean in pure servers, but in general, do you concider them to be cheats?
i am curious to see what you think you know about each other. you have all played together for awhile, yet all of you have different opinions on what it is to cheat.
clear scope skin [message #138075] Sun, 13 February 2005 15:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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it is not a part of the game, it is an external file that is planted into your data directory

its the same as bright colour skins, its cheating, as its impossable to hide in the shadows from these people.

how is that not giving you an advantage over other players?

nuff said



you said "cheat" not advantage.
I was pointing out, in the same way as Homey and ACK and a lot of other people that its exactly that, an ADVANTAGE, not a cheat.

also, a minor flaw with your whole "might as well allow FR then" thing,
clear scope is a skin, FR is not.

the game came out of the box custom skinable,
therefore its totally within the boundries of the game.

ps. the post title is also wrong. it should say 'skin' not 'script.'


clear scope skin [message #138079] Sun, 13 February 2005 15:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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how far will you take this?

SOmone on cable vs. a guy on 56k, IS CHEATING
Somone on Athlon 64 FX vs. a guy on a p4 1.5, IS CHEATING

stop complainging, it makes sniping easier and renguard doesn't block it, so download it if you want. Razz no one cares as long as you dont' run the renguard blocked cheats.


clear scope skin [message #138081] Sun, 13 February 2005 15:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 4:14 pm Post subject:
Nightma12 wrote:
ps. the post title is also wrong. it should say 'skin' not 'script.'





sorry , like i said earlier.... i'm not what you would call computer savvy. Confused
i just really like playing renegade!
clear scope skin [message #138106] Sun, 13 February 2005 17:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Alkaline

how far will you take this?

SOmone on cable vs. a guy on 56k, IS CHEATING
Somone on Athlon 64 FX vs. a guy on a p4 1.5, IS CHEATING

stop complainging, it makes sniping easier and renguard doesn't block it, so download it if you want. Razz no one cares as long as you dont' run the renguard blocked cheats.

Exactly


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clear scope skin [message #138158] Sun, 13 February 2005 23:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I only use skins for fun. That what their for anyway. People dont make Spongebob c4s because you can see them better. They make them because its funny. If i want an apc with "Nod Sucks" witten on the side or a Lizard colored Med tank, ill use them. They make the game much more engoyable for me and thats what games are for, Having fun.

As for a clear scope, who cares, all it does is make them more vulnerable to the good players. You should urge people to use it, youll get more kills.
clear scope skin [message #138459] Tue, 15 February 2005 09:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nod can hit the Weapons Factory, Power Plant, Tiberium Refinery, and Advanced Guard Tower from the top of the hill.


AK if i admit to sucking at sniping, do you really think i could have discovered that either????

Im a girl with very little patient for accuracy, if its big and doesnt move, i can just about hit it. Crying or Very Sad


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clear scope skin [message #138527] Tue, 15 February 2005 15:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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lol, you play the wrong kind of game then Laughing

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clear scope skin [message #138534] Tue, 15 February 2005 15:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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=gbull=[L]=]lol, you play the wrong kind of game then Laughing


Yup. sadly. But im a team player. one that will be a hottie on field and help repair tanks so the noobs dont get out and have it stolen.

But im also a tactian. I play with the tanks and sneak into your bases. So what if i cant aim, i only have to click a button to lay a nuke. :rolleyes:


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clear scope skin [message #138554] Tue, 15 February 2005 19:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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clear scope skin [message #138690] Wed, 16 February 2005 17:47 Go to previous message
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I dont understand how people can possibly think clearskin is cheating. Who in their right mind actually plays an entire game in scope? Are you saying snipers scan for targets zoomed in? The only time I zoom in is when I see a target that is far away. It also doesn't give you a distinct advantage when aiming at someone, unless their head is bigger than the view allowed by the original scope, which in that case you would need the entire screen :rolleyes: but of course I think we know when that would be. So this "advantage" over others is bullshit.

P.S. - One could argue that clearskin is a disadvantage, because the green makes it easier to see in dark places when scoped....
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