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Korea has nukes [message #138324] Mon, 14 February 2005 17:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DarkDemin is currently offline  DarkDemin
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Spoony trying to say that America should disarm before anyone else would be an act of suicide.

Also, we have a system of checks an balances that your stupid ass doesn't understand that keeps us from firing a nuke for no reason. If the wacko dictator in N. Korea wants to launch a nuke no one will question his reasoning they will just do it.

As far as you even thinking that the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were unjustified you are just plain wrong. You are like that professor that is trying to call the people that died in the 9/11 attacks Nazis.


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Korea has nukes [message #138331] Mon, 14 February 2005 17:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It is ignorance to say that oil was not a factor in the war plan.


Yes, this war and every other war that has ever accured economics are a part of the war plan and reason going to war. You just make a big deal out of this one because your an idiot, and thats okay, just stop sharing with us.


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Korea has nukes [message #138361] Mon, 14 February 2005 19:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Cow, you aren't in a position to call people idiots. Certainly not Java. But as we've seen before, making personal insults to people is a trademark of yours.
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Spoony trying to say that America should disarm before anyone else would be an act of suicide.


America would be vulnerable if they can't compete on the same level as other countries if they disarmed with no guarantee they countries like N. Korea will too. Although I think that many countries should disarm to some extent.


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Korea has nukes [message #138370] Mon, 14 February 2005 19:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Alkaline is currently offline  Alkaline
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Its simple really...
MAKE nukes with long rang capabilities and the USA won't mess with you.
So ya, Its for defense purposes Shocked


Korea has nukes [message #138371] Mon, 14 February 2005 19:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DarkDemin is currently offline  DarkDemin
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nukes don't scare me, it is the people in control of them.

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Korea has nukes [message #138372] Mon, 14 February 2005 19:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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a crazy man with a gun is worse than a crazy man.
same applies to countries, take thier toys away and they won't be able to play.


Korea has nukes [message #138374] Mon, 14 February 2005 20:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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cowmisfit

Yes, this war and every other war that has ever accured economics are a part of the war plan and reason going to war. You just make a big deal out of this one because your an idiot, and thats okay, just stop sharing with us.


There is a difference between making a big deal out of something and stating facts. Facts that YOU apparently agree with.

I do not believe, nor had ever believed the war for primarily for oil. I believe oil was calculated into the war plan (just like you) as a way to pay for it, and possibly in the future make a profit, but I do not peg your President as that kind of greedy fool.

Please stop making typical assumptions when you have no frame of reference OR evidence to back up your claims.



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Korea has nukes [message #138378] Mon, 14 February 2005 20:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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DarkDemin

Spoony trying to say that America should disarm before anyone else would be an act of suicide.

When did I say America should do that? Oh wait... I didn't.

DarkDemin

As far as you even thinking that the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were unjustified you are just plain wrong.

Again, another quote which has not even the slightest relation to anything I've said.

All in all, an excellent job.


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Korea has nukes [message #138419] Tue, 15 February 2005 00:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.
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Gbull, not everyone falls under that.




to some degree, we all are. Whos to say what "Strongly" is? Even you, are partial more towards the left than to the right, and I respect that, but at the same time I am intolerable of that. Does that make sense?


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Korea has nukes [message #138423] Tue, 15 February 2005 01:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Not one bit gbull but then again what dose make sense?
Korea has nukes [message #138428] Tue, 15 February 2005 02:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
splnwezel is currently offline  splnwezel
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Then could someone please explain to me the primary reason for going to war with Iraq? Was it because of the potential of WMDs existing in an anti-American country? No, I think there were more probable targets (ie: North Korea). Was it because their leader treated the people like garbage? Again, other countries more targetable. For terrorists? Why not attack Saudi Arabia? How about because their leader tried to kill daddy? LOL... quite possibly. But in my eyes, the Americans would've never tackled this project unless there was something to gain financially - without the support of the UN (duh, the Russians and French are loving this trade relationship with Iraq) and whilst still in the middle of the Afghanistan campaign.

But back to the topic at hand, I do believe that the North Koreans pose more of a threat to their Asian neighbours, and that a full scale assault on the US is highly improbable. And forget about America disarming. They would never give up that tactical edge under their own power.

DarkDemin

As far as you even thinking that the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were unjustified you are just plain wrong. You are like that professor that is trying to call the people that died in the 9/11 attacks Nazis.

I'm sorry... I am not sure I understand... perhaps you think murdering civilians is right? I'm sure you'd also be making the same choice to Agent Orange all of Vietnam as your American military did. Please explain so that I can see if you have a point to any of this.


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Korea has nukes [message #138432] Tue, 15 February 2005 03:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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1. WMD concerns, which were proven valid with finding nerve gas in artillery shells. I've also heard reports that Iraqi soldiers were dumping chemical weapons into the Euphrates river before US forces arrived.

2. Terrorism links. Remember that Al Qaeda is not the end all of terrorism. There are more terrorist organizations than that one.

3. UN security resolution violations, 12 in all.

4. Humanitarian concerns.

You honestly find something wrong with getting something in return for the side-effect of liberating a country from a dictator? If we want oil from there afterward, I see no reason why it would be a problem. War is always fought for resources, land, politics, or a combination of those reasons.

As for the "tried to kill daddy" remark... Don't be a holier-than-thou asshole please. Attempting assassination of a US president, sitting or former, is something we as a nation are not very fond of. Assassination of leaders is also considered an act of war, is it not? Why is it invalid, or even able to be mocked?

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Korea has nukes [message #138444] Tue, 15 February 2005 06:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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1. WMD concerns, which were proven valid with finding nerve gas in artillery shells. I've also heard reports that Iraqi soldiers were dumping chemical weapons into the Euphrates river before US forces arrived.


GOM GOM GOM! Add Eco terrorism to that list ;P. How can you liberals oppose the war NOW!?

IRAQ THREATENED THE ECO SYSTEM OF THE REGAL... EUPHRATES WATER MITE!

Also, what side effect? The gas is STILL as expensive as before the war. We didn't get any extra oil out of this. We just got another thing to brag about.


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Korea has nukes [message #138457] Tue, 15 February 2005 09:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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1. WMD concerns, which were proven valid with finding nerve gas in artillery shells. I've also heard reports that Iraqi soldiers were dumping chemical weapons into the Euphrates river before US forces arrived.

2. Terrorism links. Remember that Al Qaeda is not the end all of terrorism. There are more terrorist organizations than that one.

3. UN security resolution violations, 12 in all.

4. Humanitarian concerns.

You honestly find something wrong with getting something in return for the side-effect of liberating a country from a dictator? If we want oil from there afterward, I see no reason why it would be a problem. War is always fought for resources, land, politics, or a combination of those reasons.

As for the "tried to kill daddy" remark... Don't be a holier-than-thou asshole please. Attempting assassination of a US president, sitting or former, is something we as a nation are very fond of. Assassination of leaders is also considered an act of war, is it not? Why is it invalid, or even able to be mocked?


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Korea has nukes [message #138474] Tue, 15 February 2005 11:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I agree with ACK. Very Happy

Wow, its great forgetting about your topic then coming back couple days later to then have to read four pages of posts! Shocked


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Korea has nukes [message #138479] Tue, 15 February 2005 12:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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splnwezel

I'm sorry... I am not sure I understand... perhaps you think murdering civilians is right? I'm sure you'd also be making the same choice to Agent Orange all of Vietnam as your American military did. Please explain so that I can see if you have a point to any of this.

Sure, just ignore everything I said. As long as you're happy because as we all know, ignorance is bliss.


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Korea has nukes [message #138486] Tue, 15 February 2005 13:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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to some degree, we all are. Whos to say what "Strongly" is? Even you, are partial more towards the left than to the right, and I respect that, but at the same time I am intolerable of that. Does that make sense?


I'm not strongly partial to anything...At least not anything that relates to this topic. But I am tolerant of others.


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Korea has nukes [message #138526] Tue, 15 February 2005 15:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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didnt say you were strongly partial, and I also didnt say you werent intolerant of others. But even if you were to reply to someones post disagreeing with it, there is a certain level of intolerance albeit very small. The point I am trying to make is that there isnt a clear definition for what Strongly is, nor is there one for intolerance as both are expressed differently by different people, and something that is Strong for some people, may be a weak statement to others. Im not trying to prove anyone wrong or accuse anyone of anything, Im just making a statement.

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Korea has nukes [message #138547] Tue, 15 February 2005 18:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Good points ACK... but I still think there are more dangerous countries posing a threat to the US right now than Iraq... terrorists included, because they come from countries we consider ourselves allies with, and I hardly doubt that terrorist activity has decreased in Iraq since US occupation.

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Korea has nukes [message #138592] Wed, 16 February 2005 00:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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yes but with their support and the anti-american sentiment going around, it would be difficult to bring support with us to stop such countries as Saudi Arabia. Because if we waged war through Mecca, ALL of the Islamic Nations would be uber pissed, and We cannot fight them all at once. Best to spread freedom in baby steps.

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Korea has nukes [message #145311] Wed, 23 March 2005 13:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Korea has nukes [message #148477] Fri, 08 April 2005 10:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I got to get into this.

First off, with the China thing, they will not get involved. their economy relies to much on the USA to do much of anything but shove a few rifles through their backdoor to north korea. Second, we have nothing to worry about yet, the korean delivery system sucks, when the rockets to not blow up on the launching pad, they cannot get very far, they are not close to even reaching our coast, as of yet.

then, if we disarm, we still have more working proven missles then anyone else, it's called submarines. We can put a missle in the air with less then 5 minutes travel time into korea. that is an advantage that one does not get up. Depending on where the submarine is. When we detect them launching missles, then you can bet that north korea has around 10-12 minutes to say good bye to their loved ones, if they actually launched a missle, then we would take care of them once and for all and be damned with the results.

We are the bully of the world at this moment in time, and are picking fights with everyone. north korea is going to find out the hard way that you do not f$$k with the USofA


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Korea has nukes [message #148496] Fri, 08 April 2005 13:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jecht is currently offline  Jecht
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i wouldnt say bully....but you got a point with the subs

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Korea has nukes [message #148539] Fri, 08 April 2005 17:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We just need to drop pamphlets. Get the fuck out of N. Korea. Go anywhere but here. And then completely sink that entire isthmus and make S. Korea an island. I'm talking nothing left, blow the fuck out of every acre and be done with all this dicking around. Saves time and money and gets results.

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Korea has nukes [message #148542] Fri, 08 April 2005 18:07 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Amen, Doitle! Very Happy
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