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Fri, 11 February 2005 03:11

Nightma12
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something needs to be done about them

perhaps decrease the price to 500?

how many games do you see somebody use a trans heli in Razz

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Transport Helis [message #137632]

Fri, 11 February 2005 04:41

Blazer
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They suck anyway...not enough armor, *every* time I get into one flown by some n00b he flies as high as possible, and doesnt drop down when he starts to take damage. End result is every time the flying coffin blows high in the air and we all fall to our deaths Smile

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Transport Helis [message #137633]

Fri, 11 February 2005 04:48

Spoony_old
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I just go into a public server, buy one, get some players to buy $1000 and beacons and jump on board, fly directly over my own base and say "AFK".

I can't think of a better way to spend 700 credits.

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Transport Helis [message #137637]

Fri, 11 February 2005 04:54

zunnie
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Blazer

lmfao hehe

On FanMaps servers the chinooks have 'medium tank' type armor, will take a few more ramjets to take it down Smile

Not a big change but it does make it a more usefull vehicle..

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Transport Helis [message #137638]

Fri, 11 February 2005 05:38

Nightma12
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perhaps making them worth the money in CP2?

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Transport Helis [message #137641]

Fri, 11 February 2005 05:55

mac
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No Core Patch will have balance changes, because that locks out players with no CP.

The only thing that is possible are changed maps, that makes it available for everyone.

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Transport Helis [message #137642]

Fri, 11 February 2005 06:06

WNxCABAL
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I think I have said this before, but why not modify the WW maps with the E3 vehicles and add stuff that should be changed to counter the balance (i.e n00bjet, trans heli, etc.)
Then name them something like C&C_BHS_Walls_Flying.mix

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Transport Helis [message #137654]

Fri, 11 February 2005 06:34

danpaul88
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yeah, but tht would also lock out non cp users, as they would not have the modified maps Laughing

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Fri, 11 February 2005 08:38

WNxCABAL
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better reason to download Wink

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Transport Helis [message #137674]

Fri, 11 February 2005 08:47

ghostSWT
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mac

No Core Patch will have balance changes, because that locks out players with no CP.

can't you do it with serverside scripts?

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Transport Helis [message #137675]

Fri, 11 February 2005 08:54

WNxCABAL
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ghostSWT

mac

No Core Patch will have balance changes, because that locks out players with no CP.

can't you do it with serverside scripts?

It can change the amount, but probably not the text

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Fri, 11 February 2005 10:14

ghostSWT
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_TFWxANDY_

It can change the amount, but probably not the text

that is true, the ammount is easely done threw bjects.ddb but i was thinking about more armor, less damege fron snipers.....that kind of stuff.

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Transport Helis [message #137690]

Fri, 11 February 2005 12:32

flyingfox
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Without snipers they wouldn't be too bad. the problem is how easily they are hit whilst being slow on maneuver and no ability to strafe away from the fire. the ctrl + direction strafe is a joke, it doesn't help you at all.
there's also the issue that no good players buy them so whenever somebody does, it's usually a n00b who doesn't understand basic survival techniques and does the classic 'fly high in the air and get shot at' thing.
i don't think giving them weapons would help because they can only shoot from the sides and in one direction with no aiming.

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Transport Helis [message #137729]

Fri, 11 February 2005 19:10

IRON FART
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Increase price 100-400 and change the armor type so that they don't get owned by a sniper. They have no weapons after all. Wouldn't it make sense for them to have better armor?

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Transport Helis [message #137775]

Sat, 12 February 2005 02:19

Spoony_old
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It'd make sense to carry 5 passengers instead of 3.... you know, like in every single C&C game I can think of?

other than generals

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Transport Helis [message #137965]

Sun, 13 February 2005 00:38

Wyld1USA
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Registered: January 2004

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Quote:

something needs to be done about them

perhaps decrease the price to 500?

You could make them $1 and they still wouldn't be worth buying LMAO.

So your the one who buys them. "giggle"

I think there was a different thread about their worthlessness. To each his own. (or get owned = in a transport)

I love watching all those guys fall from the sky after my apc or chopper gets done with it. Cool

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Transport Helis [message #138124]

Sun, 13 February 2005 18:55

nastym4n
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mac

No Core Patch will have balance changes, because that locks out players with no CP.

The only thing that is possible are changed maps, that makes it available for everyone.

exactly.

So surely (if someone can be arsed) the best plan would be to rework the WW maps and work them into later patch releases.
ala

_TFWxANDY_

C&C_BHS_Walls_Flying.mix

Since its automated you could probably even make a core patch containing just maps.
Then it is down to server hosts which version of the map they use - exactly as it is now.

it takes about 10 minutes to sit down with LE and re-work an original WW map so the helis are stronger etc.
(I was starting to go that way with the last map i ever made - C&C Outpost.)
The map demonstrates what can be achieved fairly easily in all aspects of the game,
and I consider it a forerunner to the much better server-side mods we see now. i wud wudnt I? Very Happy

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Transport Helis [message #138193]

Mon, 14 February 2005 04:49

zunnie
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nastym4n

Renguard_Setup.exe = setup program for Renguard anti-cheat for Renegade. Its gay.

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Transport Helis [message #138194]

Mon, 14 February 2005 05:14

Nightma12
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Transport Helis [message #138213]

Mon, 14 February 2005 08:52

nastym4n
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lol? wtf!

zunnie

I do my research a little to well for NastyM4n. I am his Idol.

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[Updated on: Mon, 14 February 2005 12:59]

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Transport Helis [message #138232]

Mon, 14 February 2005 12:04

zunnie
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NastyM4n - Ren Essentials_01.zip

http://www.fanmaps.net/zunnie/renegade/README.RTF

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Transport Helis [message #138249]

Mon, 14 February 2005 12:58

nastym4n
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ROFL!!

i didnt think there was a single person alive that read READMEs!!!
you get a star!!

http://www.renegadeforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=13786

my real feelings RE renguard. Since someone has actually noticed what Ive written i suppose ill have to change the readme.

Your far to much on the ball for me Zunnie,
remind me never to make an enemy of you.

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Transport Helis [message #138260]

Mon, 14 February 2005 13:12

zunnie
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lol

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Transport Helis [message #138317]

Mon, 14 February 2005 16:55

Chronojam
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Colonel

Giving out clearscopes too? =O

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Transport Helis [message #138321]

Mon, 14 February 2005 17:01

nastym4n
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great, you show one chink in your armor and every1 gets in there!!

Smile

http://www.renegadeforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=13769

if you run a server, and i join, and clearscope is against server rules tell me,
and ill take it off. Smile

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