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Korea has nukes [message #137814]

Sat, 12 February 2005 09:02

Javaxcx
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Have you ever studied or even payed attention to anything about World War II? Japan was not going to give up until they were all dead, or we knocked some sense into their heads. On the island of Saipan the WOMEN AND CHILDREN committed suicide rather than be under American control. Not to mention that the Japanese government trained women and children to fight against the Americans. They taught them how to use sharp sticks and such.

I think the best way to describe the situation is in fact to play through a game of Battlefield Veitnam and listen to the propaganda machine. In Japan, just about everything was controlled by the military up and including through the Pacific Campaign.

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During the 1930s, the military established almost complete control over the government. Many political enemies were assassinated, and communists persecuted. Indoctrination and censorship in education and media were further intensified. Navy and army officers soon occupied most of the important offices, including the one of the prime minister.

I would highly doubt that even a large minority would know that "Americans are generally nice people and won't torture you". It's similar to the situation we have in Communist China now. The people "behind the wall" are told by their government that China donates millions of dollars worth of foreign aid to America under some pretense to put the Chinese government on a high pedistal that no one can dethrone because... well, they're communists, aren't they?

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Korea has nukes [message #137815]

Sat, 12 February 2005 09:08

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Eh that's true. I didn't really consider propaganda from the government as a factor. Confused

Confused

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Korea has nukes [message #137823]

Sat, 12 February 2005 10:26

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j_ball430

Have you ever studied or even payed attention to anything about World War II?

Ha, I think I could give you a run for your money...

If what you think is true, then shouldn't the question be: Why not just nuke Iraq? Forget about them not surrendering. Is easier to nuke the place and forget about resistance. Heck, nuke Afghanistan so we can bring our troops back...

Blind patriotism... had the Japanese launched nukes onto American soil via submarines (if they had the technology), could you feel the same way?

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Korea has nukes [message #137826]

Sat, 12 February 2005 10:52

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splnwezel

If what you think is true, then shouldn't the question be: Why not just nuke Iraq? Forget about them not surrendering. Is easier to nuke the place and forget about resistance. Heck, nuke Afghanistan so we can bring our troops back...

That is a completely different situation here. Why would we want to nuke those who we're liberating? We weren't liberating Japan.

It's a completely different situation if they would have attacked us. No, not because I'm American, but rather because of the way that Americans operate. Our government wouldn't train the women and children to attack the enemy or feel that we're dishonoring the president by surrendering.

Let's say, hypothetically, that America was in the same mindset as Japan was. Of course, I wouldn't like the idea of an atom bomb being dropped on us, but from a military standpoint, it was the smartest thing they could do. The point of a war is not to die for your country, but make the enemy die for his (Yeah, I got it off of a quote).

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Korea has nukes [message #137839]

Sat, 12 February 2005 11:49

IRON FART
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If N. Korea use nukes on the US, then China is gonna screw them over for attacking one of their major trading partners. I hope this incident causes a change in leadership.

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Korea has nukes [message #137882]

Sat, 12 February 2005 16:35

Jecht
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i think that to be true as well IRON, they only have false threats. Its best to just ignore them at this point I think, because them attacking us would be their own downfall.

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Korea has nukes [message #137894]

Sat, 12 February 2005 17:01

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North Korea shouldn't have nukes (Kim Jong Il says, "thanks, Mr. Clinton!") because he would actually use them.
The U.S. should have nukes because it is the #1 target on any nation's "Who to nuke first" list; it has always been the policy of the United States since the beginning of the Cold War that nuclear weapons are to be used for defense in extreme circumstances. To think we'd be the first ones to push the launch button simply to start a war is just ludicrous.

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Korea has nukes [message #137895]

Sat, 12 February 2005 17:08

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Did Clinton give North Korea nuclear devices? Please, do tell.

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)

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Korea has nukes [message #137932]

Sat, 12 February 2005 20:13

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Yes, but why exactly is the US #1 on every country's "To Nuke List"?

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Korea has nukes [message #137936]

Sat, 12 February 2005 20:17

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splnwezel

Yes, but why exactly is the US #1 on every country's "To Nuke List"?

Because were the big dog , everyone wants to take the one on top down. And the fact that 3/4's of them are ungreatful bastards.

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Korea has nukes [message #137940]

Sat, 12 February 2005 20:37

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Keep telling yourself that, maybe it'll come true some day.

Not today though.

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Korea has nukes [message #137949]

Sat, 12 February 2005 22:37

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simple jealousy and/or difference in opinions are the reason why we are on the #1 to nuke list.

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Sat, 12 February 2005 23:17

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It's not jealousy in the slightest. Those terrorists don't like the way you run a population-- not because some of those within the population have a big screen TV.

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Korea has nukes [message #137955]

Sat, 12 February 2005 23:28

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and/or difference in opinions

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Korea has nukes [message #137977]

Sun, 13 February 2005 04:45

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splnwezel

Yes, but why exactly is the US #1 on every country's "To Nuke List"?

Because were the big dog , everyone wants to take the one on top down.

wow...

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Korea has nukes [message #138053]

Sun, 13 February 2005 13:39

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Because were the big dog , everyone wants to take the one on top down. And the fact that 3/4's of them are ungreatful bastards.

LOL
Yes you are #1 on the to nuke list because of something as trivial as that. What a joke. I'm gonna tell my friends that one. Very Happy

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CENSUS OF THE WORLD
Please check one:
ARE YOU AN UNGRATEFUL BASTARD?
[ ] No, I love America
[ ] Yes.

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Korea has nukes [message #138067]

Sun, 13 February 2005 14:30

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I hate you dumb fucks that take shit and turn it into something its not. (will explain in second when i get out of the shower.)

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Korea has nukes [message #138068]

Sun, 13 February 2005 14:35

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cowmisfit

Because were the big dog , everyone wants to take the one on top down. And the fact that 3/4's of them are ungreatful bastards.

Looks pretty straight forward to me.

Maybe you meant something you didn't say-- again.

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Sun, 13 February 2005 15:17

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Infering from iron-fart's post he said that Either you are not an ungreatful bastard and love america and if you don't no matter what your a ungreatful bastard. Which is something i didn't say.

I said theres quite a few countries who are currently anti-america that should be anything but. Take France for example, we saved them in WWI and WWII from being extermenated by Hitler, now look how they treat us only 50 some odd years after the fact. (Don't you even bring up the revolution, we've backed them up so many times and repaied for that its not even funny and has no relevince since it was over 100 years ago.)

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Sun, 13 February 2005 15:23

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France isn't anti-American. They are against your war. In case you've forgotten, and this is at least the 2nd time I've reminded you, but France is an ally.

You basing your accusation on the assumption that French people in France run around burning American flags. Canada doesn't care much for your war either, but does that mean Canada is anti-American? Hardly. These countries hold stinct differences in opinion and will go to point out the fallacy in your methodologies. If you think that means they are anti-American, well, there is nothing that anyone can do for you.

Oh, but don't get me wrong. There are definately anti-American people in those countries. There are in EVERY country-- even America. And no, they're not called democrats or liberals. They are those who have a disdain for America has a whole.

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Sun, 13 February 2005 15:58

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and i am against those in america too. I think anyone who is living in America and hates it so bad can get the fuck out. I'd pay for them to leave if they promised to move to iraq and never come back.

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Korea has nukes [message #138096]

Sun, 13 February 2005 16:38

Jecht
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Javacx

You basing your accusation on the assumption that French people in France run around burning American flags.

They have

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Korea has nukes [message #138098]

Sun, 13 February 2005 16:40

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cowmisfit

I said theres quite a few countries who are currently anti-america that should be anything but. Take France for example, we saved them in WWI and WWII from being extermenated by Hitler, now look how they treat us only 50 some odd years after the fact.

wow, you stupid, stupid fuck

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Sun, 13 February 2005 16:40

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I should rephrase... ALL French people.

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Korea has nukes [message #138107]

Sun, 13 February 2005 17:22

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Javaxcx

I should rephrase... ALL French people.

In all of the TV News, News Articals and things on the net i've read / heard, i've never heard one good comment come out of someone from france about the US.

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