| clear scope skin [message #137838] |
Sat, 12 February 2005 11:47  |
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matrixdm4
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playing in unrules this morning, folk were discussing a "clear scope" which removes the green, making the view much clearer thus increasing the range of the weapon. does anyone know about this? sounds useful, i would like to try it. :rolleyes:
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| clear scope skin [message #137843] |
Sat, 12 February 2005 12:20  |
Naamloos
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It's a texture not a script. It also doesn't make the range beter, just your view. It removes the whole "scope", both black and green.
I think the one you mean is a bit of a cheat IMO, but removing just the green isn't that bad... It has it's good parts and bad parts.
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| clear scope skin [message #137853] |
Sat, 12 February 2005 13:30 |
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Spice
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Making a character bright green gives the player using it an unfair advantage aswell.
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| clear scope skin [message #137868] |
Sat, 12 February 2005 15:19 |
genetix
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no, it is CHEATING
you have an advantage over other people when useing it
since you can see more of the battlefield
EDIT: RG does not block it because it is a dds file
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I don't think it gives an unfair advantage considering every person who plays renegade online has an equal chance of using the clear scope.
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Everyone who plays renegade could also throw an objects.dbb file in their rengade dir. Does that mean its still fair?
Clear scope IS a cheat because is INCREASES what you can see and how fast you can see it. Unless you wanna go waving your mouse around in circles to find people... Clearscope gets rid of that giving an advantage. It is a cheat because of this.
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| clear scope skin [message #137905] |
Sat, 12 February 2005 17:52 |
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matrixdm4
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 5:12 pm Post subject:
matrixdm4 wrote:
to clarify, if you are running renguard, useing this clear scope is concidered cheating?.
I've never heard/read that anywhere from Crimson, indulge me.
matrixdm4 wrote:
understanding that renguard is not infalible, and persons may find chinks in its armor, shouldn't all things not found in "the out of the box" game code be also concidered a cheat? ie: any mods or skins or textures added by users to either enhance their game play or to get advantage over their opponents.
In all due respect, where did you get this info? I've not seen Crimson/Blazer or anyone of significant importance quote that.
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this is not information found anywhere... i am simply asking opinions on the matter. where is the line drawn? up to what point will you take it till someone conciders it cheating. i do not employ any modifications to my game. i enjoy losing honestly than to win underhandedly. but i have also been on the recieving end of someones hack before. yeah it sucks but ....
this whole thread started because i was curious about the scope view, and if it was to be concidered a cheat or not, and everyone seems to feel strongly though not united on the subject. what else you have to say on the matter?
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| clear scope skin [message #137924] |
Sat, 12 February 2005 19:30 |
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Crimson
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RenGuard does not consider clear scope a cheat, but it WOULD be disallowed in "pure mode". Individual server owners may not want clear scopes but it's difficult if not impossible to detect anyone who's using it.
I'm the bawss.
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| clear scope skin [message #137927] |
Sat, 12 February 2005 19:37 |
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IRON FART
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Location: LOS ANGELES
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I dont think its a cheat. Making a character bright greein IMO wouldn't help me. Once I've spotted where they are even if they are totally black, I could still hit them. Bright colors don't help too much.
Removing the black of the scope is a bit much. But again, I doubt how effective it is, so I won't call it a cheat.
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| clear scope skin [message #137937] |
Sat, 12 February 2005 20:26 |
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nastym4n
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Registered: October 2003
Location: UK
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no, it is CHEATING
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dont agree.
Its part of the game so either:
[1] join a totally Pure server.
[2] play something else.
[3] get over it.
falls into the same catagory as whining about any number of Renegade related topics not limited to but including:
N00bjets
Camping
Letting Structures die to gain advantages
etc etc
http://www.generalsmaps.net/8p_generals.php
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