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Judge rules test-tube embryo is a person [message #137406] Wed, 09 February 2005 22:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
IRON FART
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Embryo != Human.

Embryo will eventualy become a human.


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Judge rules test-tube embryo is a person [message #137434] Thu, 10 February 2005 06:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I agree that life begins at conception. I mean otherwise what does begin?

I can't beleive Abortion isn't illegal considering how much people hate Spawn Campers. Very Happy


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Judge rules test-tube embryo is a person [message #137438] Thu, 10 February 2005 06:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I actually think abortion should be illegal (I know, I know...I'm supposed to be a "liberal").

You can take a morning after pill, and birth control pills are not hard to get. If you're that careless that you get yourself pregnant (and it's too late for birth control), you'd better be ready to take care of a baby or put it up for adoption.

Same

IRON-FART

Embryo != Human.

Embryo will eventualy become a human.


I dunno about you, but I'm hoping that once I'm the proud owner of an embryo, it will be human.
Judge rules test-tube embryo is a person [message #137580] Thu, 10 February 2005 19:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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em·bry·o ( P ) Pronunciation Key (mbr-)
n. pl. em·bry·os

1a. An organism in its early stages of development, especially before it has reached a distinctively recognizable form.
1b. An organism at any time before full development, birth, or hatching.

2a. The fertilized egg of a vertebrate animal following cleavage.
2b.In humans, the prefetal product of conception from implantation through the eighth week of development.

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or·gan·ism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ôrg-nzm)
n.
1. An individual form of life, such as a plant, animal, bacterium, protist, or fungus; a body made up of organs, organelles, or other parts that work together to carry on the various processes of life.

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life ( P ) Pronunciation Key (lf)
n. pl. lives (lvz)

1a. The property or quality that distinguishes living organisms from dead organisms and inanimate matter, manifested in functions such as metabolism, growth, reproduction, and response to stimuli or adaptation to the environment originating from within the organism.
1b. The characteristic state or condition of a living organism.


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Judge rules test-tube embryo is a person [message #137603] Thu, 10 February 2005 21:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Doitle is currently offline  Doitle
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Ok let me break it down for you all...

A mother is not allowed to suddenly decide to kill all her children. She will be going away for a long time if she does. Why on Earth is it allowed in the form of abortion?


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Judge rules test-tube embryo is a person [message #137604] Thu, 10 February 2005 21:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, the difference of the situation is that in the former case, the mother isn't biologically bound to the child.

I don't necessarily care too much for the idea of abortions. But I can understand why some find certain cases justified-- such as when the baby poses a life-threatening issue to the mother.



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Judge rules test-tube embryo is a person [message #137605] Thu, 10 February 2005 22:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I dunno even that would be a very tough call for me... It's taking one life for another. And I mean the baby gets screwed? It hasn't experienced anything. No first ice cream cone, no first gum ball, no... first... video game.

Won't somebody think of the children!


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Judge rules test-tube embryo is a person [message #137619] Fri, 11 February 2005 01:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No!
I can't have feelings for an embryo, I'm sorry.


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Judge rules test-tube embryo is a person [message #137631] Fri, 11 February 2005 04:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I agree with you Java... I don't believe a child should die to pay for the mistakes of the mother... in cases of health issue to the mother, rape, incest, then it's justified. Not because the woman who too stupid to protect herself.

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Judge rules test-tube embryo is a person [message #137677] Fri, 11 February 2005 09:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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if(embryo == child)
{
murder = child + abortion;

System.out.println("youve murdered a child, Can you live with yourself?");
}
else
{
guilty_concience = what_could_have_been_life;
System.out.println("You have destroyed what could have been life, Can you live with yourself?");
}

BufferedReader choice = new BufferedReader(new InputStreamReader(System.in));

System.out.println("Is it fair for a child to pay for their parents mistakes?");
String yourchoice = choice.readLine();

..........


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Judge rules test-tube embryo is a person [message #137715] Fri, 11 February 2005 16:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
IRON FART
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Boo fucking Hoo. Poor (potential) baby. Sad

gbull, theres an error with your script.
if(embryo == child)
{ 

It should read:
if(embryo != child)
{ 


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Judge rules test-tube embryo is a person [message #137768] Sat, 12 February 2005 01:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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my code is flawless Smile , and what if that potential baby was you. Lets not only think about the easy way to do things and instead think of the right way to do things. Wink

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Judge rules test-tube embryo is a person [message #137835] Sat, 12 February 2005 11:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
IRON FART
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If that potential baby was me? And it got aborted as an embryo? Then I wouldn't be here to care. None of you would care that I wasn't here. My family and friends wouldn't care because none of these people would have even known me. Whats the big deal? I don't see this as the morally wrong thing do to.

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Judge rules test-tube embryo is a person [message #137837] Sat, 12 February 2005 11:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Crimson

I agree with you Java... I don't believe a child should die to pay for the mistakes of the mother... in cases of health issue to the mother, rape, incest, then it's justified. Not because the woman who too stupid to protect herself.


Oh, don't get me wrong. I still believe that it is always wrong to abort a child that otherwise could live. But I do think that it is sometimes justifiable.

Remember, something can be morally wrong but also justified.



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Judge rules test-tube embryo is a person [message #137877] Sat, 12 February 2005 16:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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well said. Smile

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Judge rules test-tube embryo is a person [message #137922] Sat, 12 February 2005 19:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
IRON FART
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I'd have to agree with most of that. women should try their best not to get pregnant. But they might get raped or realise that they have AIDS after they become pregnant and do not want that child. Maybe they cannot support the child in the future. Maybe the pregnant woman is a teen. Maybe the father leaves without notice. Not conditions in which you want to bring up a child.

For thosse people who refuse to use birth control and get pregnant, then get an abortion soon after, they are real idiots for being irresponsible. But i'd still prefer that they have the abortion so that a smoking, alcoholic, sex adict mother won't raise them.


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Judge rules test-tube embryo is a person [message #137928] Sat, 12 February 2005 19:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Actually, I believe most babies born from AIDS-infected mothers "grow out of it" in the first two years of life. Not all, but most or many... something about their immune system not being fully developed yet.

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Judge rules test-tube embryo is a person [message #137935] Sat, 12 February 2005 20:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Not all of them do. If the mother is given no medication, there is a 50% chance that the HIV virus will develop in them within about 6 months.

Of course here in America we have this medication, but there is always a risk.


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Judge rules test-tube embryo is a person [message #137980] Sun, 13 February 2005 04:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I didn't say all...

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Judge rules test-tube embryo is a person [message #138049] Sun, 13 February 2005 13:29 Go to previous message
IRON FART
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I know... Just FYI Razz

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