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CnC Reborn : Nod Devil's Tongue [message #136677]

Sun, 06 February 2005 17:35

Pendullum
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Oh my god, AssCrackFiller called someone an idiot! Hes never said that before!

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CnC Reborn : Nod Devil's Tongue [message #136686]

Sun, 06 February 2005 18:11

Jaspah
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Aircraftkiller

lol... You're blind.

J4, you're an idiot. I only use the tools that Source uses, like reflections, bump mapping, normal maps, specular highlighting, etc... I don't use anything unless it will look similar to what Source uses. Otherwise what's the point?

I'm not a idiot. If you are expecting an in-game screenshot from him... Why can't you supply a simple model shown in Source? Because I seem to have remembered seeing 3DSMax renders of your or RenAlert models that you've posted. I don't give a shit if it "looks" like a Source model. I wanna see them in action and in-game. Just like you want it and I want it.

Also, why doesn't 'lol' bother you and 'ur' does? They're the same kind of internet abbreviations. :rolleyes:

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CnC Reborn : Nod Devil's Tongue [message #136690]

Sun, 06 February 2005 18:38

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Also, why doesn't 'lol' bother you and 'ur' does? They're the same kind of internet abbreviations.

No they're not. "Ur" is an abbreviation, "lol" is an acronym.

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CnC Reborn : Nod Devil's Tongue [message #136693]

Sun, 06 February 2005 18:53

htmlgod
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Meh. This isn't bad, but it could with relative ease be made considerably better. First off, the black stuff on the sides, where it says "BT-16," looks way too much like wood dyed black. I see that it looked like that in the reference picture, but I still think you can take some liberty in that department. Also, the red paint looks bad. It looks like you brushed over it in low opacity, which is what you normally did. You should put the paint on a separate layer, give it a small amount of embossing around the edges, since the area with paint on it is slightly higher than the rest of the surface, and add scratches in varying depth in the paint. Other than that, it's not too bad. The teeth kind of look eerily clean around their edges, I don't know how they came to being like that. Otherwise, it's pretty solid.

Check out http://newhope.conquergaming.com to see the progress of the STARWARS mod for Renegade.

http://newhope.conquergaming.com/OtherStuff/NIKE.jpg

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CnC Reborn : Nod Devil's Tongue [message #136695]

Sun, 06 February 2005 19:01

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Also, why doesn't 'lol' bother you and 'ur' does? They're the same kind of internet abbreviations.

No they're not. "Ur" is an abbreviation, "lol" is an acronym.

Dictionary.com

LOL
abbr.

laughing out loud.

Come again?

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CnC Reborn : Nod Devil's Tongue [message #136700]

Sun, 06 February 2005 19:16

Sir Phoenixx
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An abbreviation is the shortening of a word, an acronym is specifically a word made from the first letters of several words.

Even though acronyms are forms of abbreviation, "ur" and "lol" still aren't "the same kind of internet abbreviations".

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CnC Reborn : Nod Devil's Tongue [message #136710]

Sun, 06 February 2005 20:30

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We can't put it into Source until the D6 version of Source is ready to be worked on. So instead of not showing anything at all, we show what we've made.

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CnC Reborn : Nod Devil's Tongue [message #136713]

Sun, 06 February 2005 20:38

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Aircraftkiller

We can't put it into Source until the D6 version of Source is ready to be worked on. So instead of not showing anything at all, we show what we've made.

So why not finish the Renegade version in that amount of time? Or at least a patch...

No. Seriously. No.

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CnC Reborn : Nod Devil's Tongue [message #136723]

Sun, 06 February 2005 21:18

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YOU FUCKING RETARD! I WILL NOT REPEAT MYSELF!

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CnC Reborn : Nod Devil's Tongue [message #136763]

Mon, 07 February 2005 00:20

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Meh, you can put anything you like into Source, right now.

I've been making vehicles and structures for another project and putting them in Source all this past week using nothing but the standard tools.

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CnC Reborn : Nod Devil's Tongue [message #136767]

Mon, 07 February 2005 01:23

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I can, but I'm not that interested in doing it right now. I would rather wait until D6 is ready before I do it as something may change.

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CnC Reborn : Nod Devil's Tongue [message #136810]

Mon, 07 February 2005 10:57

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If you can, but you don't want to. Why should Renardin6 waste his time and broadband getting the files into *.w3d forum and uploading them for you to see?

And besides, I have the Source SDK. There is a model viewer... use it. :rolleyes:

Sir Phoenixx

Still, they are the same kind of internet lingo that people use right now.

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CnC Reborn : Nod Devil's Tongue [message #136835]

Mon, 07 February 2005 13:09

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For several reasons:

1. He doesn't do anything with 3DS or gMax.

2. He's advertising a shitty "mod" for the Renegade engine which does not support most of what Source offers, so rendering it in Max is only making his texture look slightly better because it's still shit to begin with.

3. It's his job to show off what he makes in the proper way. In this case it's supposed to be viewed in W3D Viewer.

And you're an idiot. The model viewer only views .mdl files, not .3ds files or .max files.

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CnC Reborn : Nod Devil's Tongue [message #136855]

Mon, 07 February 2005 15:47

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And in your case its supposed to be viewed as an ingame picture. Your bitching about renardin not posting his pictures in W3D viewer, as in an in-game picture, yet you cant be arsed to do it for your work?

Aircraftkiller

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CnC Reborn : Nod Devil's Tongue [message #136878]

Mon, 07 February 2005 17:10

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Yay, it's moved off topic. :-\

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CnC Reborn : Nod Devil's Tongue [message #136903]

Mon, 07 February 2005 18:57

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Once again I have to explain something I already explained. Talk about "arsed", whatever that means, while not bothering to read the obvious reason why we don't show things in Source? There is no reason to show them in the engine because they aren't placed in the engine yet. Since you can't read or something, I'll make it easier for you.

WE ARE WAITING FOR D6 TO GET AN ENGINE BUILD THAT WORKS BEFORE PLACING ANY ART ASSETS IN SOURCE.

Whereas Reshit can already place their work in the engine and show it off the way it should be. I simply emulate the Source rendering techniques as best I can, while you show off Reshit looking much more filtered and anti-aliased than Renegade will ever support.

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CnC Reborn : Nod Devil's Tongue [message #136959]

Tue, 08 February 2005 00:17

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Unless I've missed something and the D6 team have acquired a Source licence, the renderer will be the same as stock HL2.

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CnC Reborn : Nod Devil's Tongue [message #136960]

Tue, 08 February 2005 00:51

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Yes, I realize this. I manipulate Max into having similar values, most notably in reflections... So instead of having crystal clear reflections, I give them a large blur value to mirror the fact that the reflection maps in Source are around 32x to 256x and will not be perfectly clear and crisp because of the sizes.

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CnC Reborn : Nod Devil's Tongue [message #137027]

Tue, 08 February 2005 14:36

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AssCrackFiller

I can, but I'm not that interested in doing it right now.

Aircraftkiller

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CnC Reborn : Nod Devil's Tongue [message #137032]

Tue, 08 February 2005 15:07

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Going back on topic, the little hump at the top shouldn't be there at all, but that is my only grief with the model.

Think about it. That machine tunnels under the ground, and the tunnel can only be as big as the cutting tools that it uses to make the tunnel. The Devil's Toungue has retractable flamethrowers for a reason - the digging tools dig an oblong shape, and the flamethrower extensions would snap when it entered the ground.

Since the grinders are BELOW the point of that hump, the tank would dig down about a metre and then just stop at an angle because some dipshit put a hump above the clearance of the tank.

And while that would be incredibly amusing to look at, it's wrong.

But like I say, otherwise it looks fine.

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CnC Reborn : Nod Devil's Tongue [message #137054]

Tue, 08 February 2005 16:48

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lol

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CnC Reborn : Nod Devil's Tongue [message #137055]

Tue, 08 February 2005 16:50

Jaspah
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That same hump was on the renders of in-game movies. So somehow it can travel underground.

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CnC Reborn : Nod Devil's Tongue [message #137073]

Tue, 08 February 2005 17:38

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Aircraftkiller

We can't put it into Source

Aircraftkiller

I can [put it into Source], but I'm not that interested in doing it right now.

Very consistent.

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CnC Reborn : Nod Devil's Tongue [message #137131]

Tue, 08 February 2005 20:22

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We can't put it into Source until the D6 version of Source is ready to be worked on.

Post the full quote... Not just what you think justifies your retarded logic.I've stated many times that we're not taking in-game images until D6 is ready for us to do it.

I could do it for HL2, or just for the model viewer, but that's a waste of time when I can simply render it instead of spending an hour making the vtx files and converting from Max into .mdl, and finally making sure all the shaders are almost identical to how I want them to be.

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