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Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130955] Wed, 05 January 2005 14:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
NodServnt is currently offline  NodServnt
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Laughing This cheat is a spin off of Big Head.. (I would sue if I was the creator of BH!) Laughing

Anyway, I make a funny out of things' like this, but yah it is just a edited version of BH... I personaly have only caught two people with it.. So you know it is not that widly used. lol (All the rest with that sort of cheat have BH. Laughing )

O, and btw DJM I love your Avatar with the AOL support. LOL that is great!

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Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130965] Wed, 05 January 2005 14:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's funny 'cause it's true. Very Happy

AOL Support is a pile of crap, when we had broadband problems it took them 2 weeks to sort it out, and it was all their fault in the end. Hence my loathing for AOL and wanting for a better unlimited ISP such as pipex.

But anyway back on topic, what is the difference betweeen BH and BHB? hey both give people big heads :s


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Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130966] Wed, 05 January 2005 14:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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BHB gives people smaller brains.
Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130991] Wed, 05 January 2005 17:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SeaMan

BHB gives people smaller brains.


Laughing Well that would be true for the ones on the other end of the scope aka cheaters'.. All BHB is just a smaller, and more dumb version of BH.

In other words' when you shoot into a crown of people you will not take all of them out.. You can time it right to get one or two at a time.

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Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130994] Wed, 05 January 2005 17:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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]Sorry to ask if this has been asked before, but what does the "super laser" look like to another player who isn't cheating? Just a standard assault rifle or what? Confused
Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #131002] Wed, 05 January 2005 18:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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they stated either a pistol or c4 earlier i believe j4S[p]

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Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #131031] Wed, 05 January 2005 20:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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]Sorry to ask if this has been asked before, but what does the "super laser" look like to another player who isn't cheating? Just a standard assault rifle or what? Confused



When the laser rifle was in use, it appeared as timed C4 to the other players (and it was). In fact, if you look at the video at the part where I died, the reason I actually died was not by a kill from the enemy, but from the timed c4 (invisible to me, but not other players), which detonated exactly 30 seconds after the first shot of the laser rifle.
Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #131035] Wed, 05 January 2005 20:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Last time I checked timed c4 was on a 15 second fuse lol

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Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #131051] Wed, 05 January 2005 22:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Last time I checked timed c4 was on a 15 second fuse lol

You must not be referring to Renegade then.
Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #131072] Thu, 06 January 2005 05:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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default is 30 seconds i believe. if it is 15, i believe the people who own the server changed it. I know it is easily changeable tho because we have had it done to our ctf server (10 sec delay Laughing )

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Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #131082] Thu, 06 January 2005 08:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Very interesting video.

I'd argue that although the way he made the vid was unfair to the players in that game, it is better for the people who watch it. Even if he had recruited a group of players to help him make the vid, it would not have had the same impact, since those players would have been expecting the cheats. The first time I noticed someone actually reacting to the cheat in that vid was when he healed the mammy from 1/2 to full health from halfway across the map. It is much more educational this way- because that's how it happens in real servers. How are you going to spot a cheat if you don't have prior knowledge about how the cheat would be used and covered up in a real game?


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Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #131140] Thu, 06 January 2005 19:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I timed the c4 on the video and I was wrong. Whoops must have been thinking renalert or something. Very Happy

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First as a dark demon,
As a demon it uses its power to reign death upon the land;
and then it dies.

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This time as a great hero...
Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #131157] Thu, 06 January 2005 23:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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nod3145

j4S[p

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j4S[p

]Sorry to ask if this has been asked before, but what does the "super laser" look like to another player who isn't cheating? Just a standard assault rifle or what? Confused



When the laser rifle was in use, it appeared as timed C4 to the other players (and it was). In fact, if you look at the video at the part where I died, the reason I actually died was not by a kill from the enemy, but from the timed c4 (invisible to me, but not other players), which detonated exactly 30 seconds after the first shot of the laser rifle.



So wait.

Will other players see that c4 you're using? And will it damage them? Are there cheats then that let you just plain plaster a building with in/visible c4?

Will planted c4 thusly look different to a cheater with this particular set of cheats?
Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #131165] Fri, 07 January 2005 00:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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to all players in the game it will look like you are holding a c4 and when you first shoot they will see you throw it(it will act and be like a regular c4) now after you shot/they see you throw it they will see you as having no weapon at all you will see yourself(you-cheater) with a lazer rifle. It's funny to see sometimes even mods ingames don't know what cheats can do. It's not hard (10-15mins) to make killer cheat that is 100% undetectable with any damage test or any screanshot test, the only way to stop them is with renguard.

I keep thinking maybe i sould make and release a bunch of totaly undetactable cheats to force all servers to run renguard if they don't want hard to detect cheaters in there servers... But I guess there is a downside to making/releasing this type of cheat, i don't know what it is but i'm sure there are some.
Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #131169] Fri, 07 January 2005 01:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ghostSWT

I keep thinking maybe i sould make and release a bunch of totaly undetactable cheats to force all servers to run renguard if they don't want hard to detect cheaters in there servers... But I guess there is a downside to making/releasing this type of cheat, i don't know what it is but i'm sure there are some.


The downside is you get no credit. If you did get credit, you can say bye bye you renegade.

I've yet to watch the video yet due to me being on 56k, but I'm sure your talking about final ren if its most common.

Downloaded cheats are for the true n00bs of cheating, easly spotted and disposed of if you know about it, why the video makes a good point.
Something else for educational purposes:
http://www.agamersnet.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=340&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=&sid=74c2862513ff79001dd284177ad27fdf

The video on the bottom was made by me, an 'extreem' cheat, which takes the name of 'most obvious' away from final ren. Which brings up a point the video does not represent.

Home made cheats are about the worst thing a mod has to deal with, while some are just as obvious as final ren, or that one, some you would never find out unless you took an ingame test. The best you can do is just rgforce any suspected cheater, cheating or not. If they are cheating then you just owned a n00b. If their not then you just got rengaurd another user. With rengaurd, the video is really only good for non rengaurd servers.


Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #131313] Sat, 08 January 2005 03:33 Go to previous message
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When I'm playing in my server, if anyone even looks like they might be cheating, I'll just force rg their ass. They should be running it anyway, so what's the big deal.

I'm the bawss.
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