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Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130190] Sat, 01 January 2005 21:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jecht is currently offline  Jecht
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i agree with AirCraftKiller. If he has to expense 1 game to educate the masses, so be it. The end justifies the means.

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Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130208] Sat, 01 January 2005 23:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
splnwezel is currently offline  splnwezel
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I think I will take that link and post it on our forums too... everyone can learn something from this.

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Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130314] Sun, 02 January 2005 15:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Very well done. It's rather interesting to see this. Question, do all sniper weapons show the blue? I'm interested in those blue streaks; do PIC and Raveshaw beams last longer too? Also, what does that laser rifle appear as? Just the last-used weapon?
Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130316] Sun, 02 January 2005 15:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Shows up at Timed C4.

whoa.
Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130374] Sun, 02 January 2005 20:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In their hand as they hold it? o_O From what I've witnessed it usually appears as a pistol.

The cheats I encounter most are one-shot pistol kills (it's not a pistol I guess, but a laser rifle that looks like it?) and autorifles that'll kill you in only about 4 shots.
Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130380] Sun, 02 January 2005 20:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jecht is currently offline  Jecht
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i agree spln, we gotta couple of kick happy people in our clan unfortunately...

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Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130387] Sun, 02 January 2005 21:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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that's really funny...i was playing in that game..i was one of those SBH that was TRYING to lay the nuke. damn CHEATERS!
Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130389] Sun, 02 January 2005 21:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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2000_years

This is why I only play in RG servers.
It really sucks to be almost in the enemies base as an SBH nuker only to be killed instantly by someone on the other side of the base while still fully cloaked.
Half-mode RG works nice, as you can just !forcerg them off. (doesn't bring back that $1400 you just lost though)



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Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130515] Mon, 03 January 2005 13:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If your a mod and you don't know what a cheat looks like just by watching a player in the game and not some video then one of two things should happen

A) You shouldn't be in the spot in the first place
B) Log a lot more hours into playing, its not that hard.

People act to quick to ban / cheat. THINK PEOPLE THINK.

This was a good video tho, i was very surprised with the whole having a weapon and no one else being able to see it, thats something i would have never thought of even. The cheat i think is the most annoying and hard to detect however is the decloaking stealth one, thats one of those were you can just bs it and say "WELL HE WAS CLOSE SO I SAW HIM": Or something stupid like that.


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Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130607] Mon, 03 January 2005 20:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wyld1USA is currently offline  Wyld1USA
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Good Video, showed me a cheaters view. Maybe those that want to cheat and would, will watch this and satisfy that itch. NOT.

I would hope by now most season players would know a cheat and not need a video. I would hope MODS would too. The Mod problem these days are imature brats that ban for stupid reasons like trash talking and stuff like that while the cheater is allowed to play on.

Anyway, forcerg is great, if they don't have rg, they should have it. It does not effect the game. Those that say it does, buy new pc's. Why wouldn't you be running RenGuard???? k thks. bye Cool


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Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130619] Mon, 03 January 2005 21:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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For #1 Mr. Nod3145 what you did made you NO better then ANY of the cheaters' out there.

#2 You have cheated for a while, because of the way you was doing it was almost pro like.

#3 I hope that they post your Screen Name on here just for you cheating ON AN OPEN SERVER SO WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE!

Smile Ok, Now that I have put that in there... I would think that Mr. Aircraft Killer as well as the others' can agree with what I said.

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Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130622] Mon, 03 January 2005 21:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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For #1 Mr. Nod3145 what you did made you NO better then ANY of the cheaters' out there.

#2 You have cheated for a while, because of the way you was doing it was almost pro like.

#3 I hope that they post your Screen Name on here just for you cheating ON AN OPEN SERVER SO WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE!

Smile Ok, Now that I have put that in there... I would think that Mr. Aircraft Killer as well as the others' can agree with what I said.

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Ken


No. You're wrong.

1. The only cheat other than this one I tested was Final Renegade many months ago in a designated server. I tested this one to see how cheating has evolved since then into more cunning techniques.

2. I have not cheated for a while, I was playing almost "pro-like" because I have been playing Renegade since it was released. It's not hard to deduce what manuevers a stealthy cheater would employ (as demonstrated) onced you've figured out what types of cheats they had available to them in the first place. In case you haven't figured it out already, there's not much skill involved in cheating, so I don't get how you can come up with "pro-like" cheaters to begin with.

3. It's somewhat necessary to demonstrate cheating on an open server to get the point across. Oh yeah, it only lasted about 3 and a half minutes, so don't panic. Like I said in the original post, I did test out the cheat's abilities in my own private server prior to filming the video... but filming the video in my own private server would have much less of an impact on viewers of the video.
Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130624] Mon, 03 January 2005 21:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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NodServnt

For #1 Mr. Nod3145 what you did made you NO better then ANY of the cheaters' out there.

#2 You have cheated for a while, because of the way you was doing it was almost pro like.

#3 I hope that they post your Screen Name on here just for you cheating ON AN OPEN SERVER SO WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE!

Smile Ok, Now that I have put that in there... I would think that Mr. Aircraft Killer as well as the others' can agree with what I said.

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Ken


No. You're wrong.

1. The only cheat other than this one I tested was Final Renegade many months ago in a designated server. I tested this one to see how cheating has evolved since then into more cunning techniques.

2. I have not cheated for a while, I was playing almost "pro-like" because I have been playing Renegade since it was released. It's not hard to deduce what manuevers a stealthy cheater would employ (as demonstrated) onced you've figured out what types of cheats they had available to them in the first place. In case you haven't figured it out already, there's not much skill involved in cheating, so I don't get how you can come up with "pro-like" cheaters to begin with.

3. It's somewhat necessary to demonstrate cheating on an open server to get the point across. Oh yeah, it only lasted about 3 and a half minutes, so don't panic. Like I said in the original post, I did test out the cheat's abilities in my own private server prior to filming the video... but filming the video in my own private server would have much less of an impact on viewers of the video.


You would be very supprised at how much skills' some would have to put into it to NOT geting caught... However you would be an easy one to catch.. Duh! I catch cheaters' day in, and day out... Like I tell people, I only like cheaters' for one reason, because I like the "hunting/catching". To me it is a hobbie, and a thrill at the same time. Very Happy I been doing it for several games' for a while now.

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Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130626] Mon, 03 January 2005 22:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jecht is currently offline  Jecht
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its true, this guy is the best cheat catcher ive ever seen. He knows it all in and out and he can spot a cheater without them even knowing hes even there.

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Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130628] Mon, 03 January 2005 22:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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NodServnt

You would be very supprised at how much skills' some would have to put into it to NOT geting caught... However you would be an easy one to catch.. Duh! I catch cheaters' day in, and day out... Like I tell people, I only like cheaters' for one reason, because I like the "hunting/catching". To me it is a hobbie, and a thrill at the same time. Very Happy I been doing it for several games' for a while now.

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Of course I wasn't really attempting to be overly sneaky. I only wanted to make a few minutes of video so if I were kicked then oh well. There was no airstrip in that game so I had to demonstrate the instakill ability by shooting infantry.

I suppose if I had actually wanted to remain I would do a few things: not kill infantry instantly, stay much farther away from the epicenter of action, do much less offensive activity overall and instead focus mainly on instarepairing.
Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130630] Mon, 03 January 2005 22:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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NodServnt

For #1 Mr. Nod3145 what you did made you NO better then ANY of the cheaters' out there.

#2 You have cheated for a while, because of the way you was doing it was almost pro like.

#3 I hope that they post your Screen Name on here just for you cheating ON AN OPEN SERVER SO WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE!

Smile Ok, Now that I have put that in there... I would think that Mr. Aircraft Killer as well as the others' can agree with what I said.

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Ken


1) He used the cheats to demonstrate how a cheater can still cheat in the game yet be covert at the same time. If he isn't better than the cheaters, why the hell would he share the info on how covert cheaters cheat?

2) So, just because he's careful in using his cheats, it makes him a long time cheater? News flash, dickweed, he isn't a n00b who's yelling "OMGF LUK @ MEE KIL TEH PEEPULZ IN OEN SHTO!!!111 LOLOLOLWTFOMGBBQ". He's a seasoned player who knows how to be discreet, and if you can't figure that out, I weep for the future.

3) He stated that he changed his screenname, so that part is useless.

As for the last comment:

- Aircraftkiller isn't the leader of these forums, nor does he carry the most influence, so attempting to incite a response from him is pointless. Also, he doesn't care one bit about Renegade anymore; he's moved on to modding Half Life 2.

- The "others" consists of a few retards like you who can't see the purpose of this guy's intentions, which is to show people how cheaters can be discreet in their methods.

Honestly, turn on your brain before telling your fingers to hunt and peck the keyboard.


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Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130636] Mon, 03 January 2005 23:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So, just because he's careful in using his cheats, it makes him a long time cheater? News flash, dickweed, he isn't a n00b


once again your maturity or lack there of never ceases to amaze me Umbra. Here we have someone completely new to the forums, And even though he is new to the forums, he is completely aware that AirCraftKiller is not the leader of them. He is no n00b to the community. I know him personally and his knowledge of the game and how it works compared to yours is like comparing a Salesman at Best Buy to Bill Gates. So show a little respect.

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Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130637] Mon, 03 January 2005 23:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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GBull, You are completely offbase on this one. While this kid may be good at determining cheaters, that doesn't necessarily mean that he knows how long they've been playing, or for the reasons as to why their cheating, I believe this guy cheated for the reason to educate others. There is no other reason as to why he posted the movie. It wasn't like he was showing off, "OMG LOOK AT MUH CHEETZ I R L337!!!!oneoen!!!11one"

Also, Aircraftkiller already defended nod3145's actions in making this movie. It'd help if you friend could read the previous posts once in a while.


whoa.
Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130638] Mon, 03 January 2005 23:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i didnt say he knew anything like that. I simply said that he knows this game in and out and professes at catching cheaters and to show more respect than to call him "dickweed" upon his first 3 posts in these forums. under this name anyway.

and if you look at my post i agree with you J_ball, but that is not a reason to criticize him for thinking otherwise. nod (not servnt) knew comming in that this would be a controversial post as these types ALWAYS are.


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Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130640] Mon, 03 January 2005 23:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Your friend was attacking nod3145 because he "knows" that nod3145 is a seasoned cheater. He has no right to make that accusation.

whoa.
Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130645] Mon, 03 January 2005 23:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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yea...but you dont know wut NodServnt is capable of like i do. but i cant tell any of you the details. I'll just leave it at that.

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Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130649] Tue, 04 January 2005 00:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think he did the video with the sole purpose of showing uneducated mods what the cheat was capable of. I wouldn't expect him to be a cheater outside of this experiment, he is obviously smart enough to realize that a moderator in this forum could match his IP.
So please give him the respect he deserves. I know a lot of us can say, oh well I never EVEN touched the cheats, because I want to remain a pure Renegade player, but it takes a lot of courage to test the cheats out and post your results so that people can learn from them. I know a lot of moderators out there can tell a cheat from skill, but a lot of moderators are absolute noob and need help to determine that. EVEN if Renguard is running. I myself hadn't even seen a Big-head screenshot before last month, so it doesn't hurt to educate the general audience a bit.


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Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130679] Tue, 04 January 2005 06:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I haven't seen the movie yet, so I don't know what he does. But as long as this guy didn't ruin a complete game, just to prove his point I'm not mad. We can all cheat if we want to. So Showing off that you can cheat, is useless. Pointing out for the moderators with a bit less knowledge about how cheats work, is usefull.

Aircraftkiller

In many servers that "force RG" stuff is used as an excuse to remove a player that killed the person in question.


Before Renguard, people used possible cheating as an exuse to Kick/Ban a player that killed the person in queston. I think this is at least an improvement, altough it won't stop power abuse I doubt it could really make it worse.

Also Aircraftkiller, how can you actually know what a lot of servers do. If you don't actually play the game?


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Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130692] Tue, 04 January 2005 08:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Personally I don't agree with it... Firing one shot at a tank, killing one infantry while cheating... you have changed the outcome of the game. Think "Butterfly Effect". This video could have been shot against bots and been effective. I do know who the "smurf" really is, but since most of you don't seem to be unsupportive of it, I won't reveal.

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Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130694] Tue, 04 January 2005 08:42 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Crimson

it IS bringing more and more people onto Renguard and we have the highest traffic levels we've ever seen.

So true the Renegade n00bstories server was actually full the other day! Shocked

indeed i has to wait to get in the server yesterday!


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