| Aircraftkiller [message #129124] |
Sun, 26 December 2004 14:53  |
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I remember a few months back you were thinking of re-doing Glacier Flying, sorting out the bugs in it etc.
I was just wondering it that's true and if so, are you still planning to do it.
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| Aircraftkiller [message #129138] |
Sun, 26 December 2004 17:46  |
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| Aircraftkiller |
When I said I don't plan on working with this game again until it's fun, I pretty much meant just that.
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So is that a "no" then? =P
| Aircraftkiller |
That's irrelevant to this thread.
Common fallacies of logic and rhetoric:
Ad hominem - attacking the arguer and not the argument.
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| Aircraftkiller [message #129147] |
Sun, 26 December 2004 19:19 |
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| Aircraftkiller |
When I said I don't plan on working with this game again until it's fun, I pretty much meant just that.
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What he meant to say is that he would be glad to apply his skills toward the improvement of that map, but his efforts should be compensated. Please send checks to SickO (Aircraftkiller's Public Relations Co-ordinator) - 'bout 350 should do it...
http://spaces.msn.com/members/patswebbucket/
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| Aircraftkiller [message #129151] |
Sun, 26 December 2004 19:56 |
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oh man sicko, thats crazy its like your eye is a sniper rifle!11!1!!!
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| Aircraftkiller [message #129181] |
Mon, 27 December 2004 02:05 |
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| Aircraftkiller |
When I said I don't plan on working with this game again until it's fun, I pretty much meant just that.
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There's one certain aspect of it which is extremely fun, it grips me far more than public servers do, and it's an aspect which a lot of people shy away from without really knowing why.
And believe me, ramjets aren't a problem in this aspect of gaming. I would know, because I despise them far more than you do.
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| Aircraftkiller [message #129242] |
Mon, 27 December 2004 13:54 |
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| Aircraftkiller |
When I said I don't plan on working with this game again until it's fun, I pretty much meant just that.
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There's one certain aspect of it which is extremely fun, it grips me far more than public servers do, and it's an aspect which a lot of people shy away from without really knowing why.
And believe me, ramjets aren't a problem in this aspect of gaming. I would know, because I despise them far more than you do.
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Huh?? I'm a little slow - Can you explain what you mean?
http://spaces.msn.com/members/patswebbucket/
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| Aircraftkiller [message #129318] |
Tue, 28 December 2004 09:06 |
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| Aircraftkiller |
When I said I don't plan on working with this game again until it's fun, I pretty much meant just that.
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I wish you would stop working on this game
Aircraftkiller : There is nothing wrong with Snow. Those glitches are the servers fault, nothing is wrong with the map. I made Snow so its perfect.
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| Aircraftkiller [message #129319] |
Tue, 28 December 2004 09:15 |
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| Aircraftkiller |
When I said I don't plan on working with this game again until it's fun, I pretty much meant just that.
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Well, I would really love for someone to make a conversion where the ramjets aren't overpowered, I will host servers with it, hell I would make it myself if I knew how.
That's all I really want to change about Renegade: ramjets, and tweak a couple of what should be anti-air to compensate for it.
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| Aircraftkiller [message #129335] |
Tue, 28 December 2004 11:15 |
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Twix]| Aircraftkiller |
When I said I don't plan on working with this game again until it's fun, I pretty much meant just that.
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I wish you would stop working on this game
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Do you have problems reading or understanding what you read? He said he stopped working on the game... It wasn't that hard to see that...I mean, he did say it.
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Thats why CP1 had his maps on it.
Aircraftkiller : There is nothing wrong with Snow. Those glitches are the servers fault, nothing is wrong with the map. I made Snow so its perfect.
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| Aircraftkiller [message #129336] |
Tue, 28 December 2004 11:16 |
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which he probably made quite some time ago? and maybe just gave a quick metaphorical polish to before the CP1 release?
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| Aircraftkiller [message #129347] |
Tue, 28 December 2004 12:18 |
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CP1 has Aircraftkillers maps because they are some of the higher quality ones. Even people who dislike his personality have a hard time disputing the fact that his maps are some of the best, whether the framework of them was created by Westwood or not.
There was plans for Aircraftkiller to officially join Blackhand Studios, where he would not only help us out with things in his area of expertise (map making/level edit stuff), but also BHS would create "balanced" maps (note MAPS not CP's or changing the game engine for all maps/games), that would have the sort of things Aircraftkiller (and many other people), think would balance the game out more. These balanced maps would include such changes as:
1. Drastically decreased damage (and points) for RamJet versus med/heavy armor.
2. Slightly decreased damage for RamJet versus light armor.
3. Drastically decreased damage for normal (500 cred) sniper rifle versus *any* armor.
4. Homing rockets (rocket launcher, stealth tanks, mrls), to counter air attacks (since RamJet would no longer own apaches and orcas)
5. Apache&Orca requiring refilling their ammo via helipad instead of having unlimited supply
6. Fixing the "flickering" that happens when a distant sniper is scoped and moving.
This is not all of the changes that were discussed, but probably the major ones. Some people are violently opposed to these changes, some people want them badly.
As I said it was planned to make balanced versions of maps (for example C&C_BHS_Field.mix) that had changes as I described, this way the changes would not be forced upon anyone - server owners could decide for themselves if they wanted to run them, and players could decide if they wanted to play them or not. Probably what would have been done is BHS would run a server with the maps as a trial to let people try them out and see if they like them.
Anyhow, at some point, Aircraftkiller decided that he "hates" Renegade, and stated that he would no longer help, do, release, or work on anything for it. He is now anti-renegade and bashes it every chance he gets, going so far as to call me stupid for even playing it.
So, unless Aircraftkiller changes his mind, I doubt the special balanced maps will ever be made. I am under the impression that the only way Aircraftkiller would rejoin the Renegade community, is if his balance changes were implemented globally and forced onto everyone, but that's not going to happen for obvious reasons.
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| Aircraftkiller [message #129349] |
Tue, 28 December 2004 12:26 |
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hmmm well. I can guarantee quite a few servers would host these changes if they were to happen. N00bstories would have at least one. I would host several.
It seems like a perfect solution to me, ACK (and others of similar opinion... me, for example) get to play on servers where n00bjetters don't ruin gameplay, and the n00bjetters still get to play on other servers. Probably without even realising the changes have happened on other servers, let alone being offended by it.
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