| Just a few thoughts... [message #11505] |
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I think a WW3 is starting, President Bush is an EVIL oil-greedy war-mongor who wants to take over the world. And I also think he inspectors should've more time, I mean, 10 more years would've resolved this peacefully. :rolleyes:
Okay, seriously, for the people who still think this is an oil war, STFU. It's just a lie made up by socialist anti-Bush yahoos. We didn't we take the oil during the Gulf War, why should we now?
And the fact that some people think 12 years is not a long enough time for inspections by the International Phony Accociation. C'mon, do you really think that Sadaam would've disarmed? And if you think Sadaam doesn't have anything to do with terrorism, you're wrong.
The "war" in Iraq isn't a seperate war from the war on terror. It's just a new front in the war. WW2 had many fronts, but there weren't seperate wars. It isn't just some scam to get our attention from Osama Bin Laden or Afganistan. Get reasonable.
Then why is this all happening now? Here's a wild guess; maybe beacuse Clinton didn't do anything about terror? The War on Terror should've started years ago, in 1998. But this is not to say Sep. 11th would've never happened. I am not one to speculate about the death of 3000 lives.
Any Christian praying for world peace does not know their Bible. Didn't Jesus himself say "There will always be wars and rumours of wars" in this world?
And I'm starting to think some people have been playing Nod/GLA a LITTLE too much 
Well, those are some of my thoughts Sorry about any grammar errors, etc.
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| Just a few thoughts... [message #12840] |
Wed, 09 April 2003 13:17  |
KIRBY098
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***DISCLAIMER***
The Pope does NOT represent Christ, or christianity in general. No one does, thus the reformation movement. His endorsement only means something to Catholics, not the rest of us who believe a man cannot speak for God, and should not place himself in between us and God. His opinion means about as much to me, as yours, or anyone elses. He is just as equal in God's eyes as anyone else.
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| Just a few thoughts... [message #12977] |
Wed, 09 April 2003 20:19 |
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***DISCLAIMER***
The Pope does NOT represent Christ, or christianity in general. No one does, thus the reformation movement. His endorsement only means something to Catholics, not the rest of us who believe a man cannot speak for God, and should not place himself in between us and God. His opinion means about as much to me, as yours, or anyone elses. He is just as equal in God's eyes as anyone else.
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Agreed. But one more thing....
There is no trinity either (Jesus ain't God!) Jesus is the SON of God. (Just thought I'd like to point that out.)
And about earlier today, Don't you think the Iraqi's are being oppressed by th US, Commando? :rolleyes: I'm sure you, havocsnipe, and Takavar from the CnC Ammo forums would make great friends.
God is the "0wnage". Plain and Simple.
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| Just a few thoughts... [message #13101] |
Thu, 10 April 2003 08:49 |
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cheesesoda
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Yes, there is a trinity...dike! they are 3 separate entities yet equal and one in the same. God is the creator, Jesus was sent to save us from our sins. See...only God can save us from our sins, so it'd be pointless for him to send his son to die if he wasn't God. And I am a Protestant and I was a former Catholic (brought up in it but saw the real light). The Catholic church is corrupted and is incorrect. Don't slander the Bible, if you don't agree with it, then go somewhere else and post it. I know this wasn't mean to be about Christianity, but it has come down to it and this is not the place.
P.S. If Jesus isn't God, then how can he have been perfect???
Few Reasons why Catholic Church is wrong:
Salvation is by Grace, not by works (sacraments)
You pray to saints and Mary, and yet the Commandments say not to have any idols before Him. Yes, they were saved, but only to God shall you pray.
Mary wasn't perfect, she was given the ability to carry God's son. She is the SURROGATE mother, I doubt that there was any DNA that Mary gave to Jesus.
whoa.
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| Just a few thoughts... [message #13130] |
Thu, 10 April 2003 10:58 |
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NeoSaber
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I don't think much good is going to come by us shoving our religons down each other's throats, but I can't let some of da_shiz's comments stand without a counterpoint of some kind.
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Salvation is by Grace, not by works (sacraments)
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You get some grace from sacraments. Humans need all the grace we can get.
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Mary wasn't perfect, she was given the ability to carry God's son. She is the SURROGATE mother, I doubt that there was any DNA that Mary gave to Jesus.
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Mary was conceived without sin. She was perfect.
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You pray to saints and Mary, and yet the Commandments say not to have any idols before Him. Yes, they were saved, but only to God shall you pray.
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I don't pray to Mary instead of God. I ask for Mary's intervention when I pray. What's wrong with asking for a little extra help with my prayers?
NeoSaber
Renegade Map Maker at CnC Source
Animator/Compiler/Level Editor/Object Rigger/Programmer for Red Alert: A Path Beyond
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| Just a few thoughts... [message #13144] |
Thu, 10 April 2003 11:38 |
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Crimson
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I am damn proud to be an American and I'm proud to have helped elect Bush with my vote. If you think we're such warmongering assholes, go watch the footage of Iraqis tearing down the statue of Saddam Hussein and partying in the streets as liberated people. Go tell them that you think we should have stayed away.
I'm the bawss.
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| Just a few thoughts... [message #13166] |
Thu, 10 April 2003 13:46 |
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cheesesoda
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1. Grace...you can't earn grace. Grace is given to you. What have we done to earn it??? The Bible says not to do works for Salvation, but to do works in the name of God.
2. ONLY Jesus was concieved without sin. What's the significance of Jesus dying on the cross is his mother was without sin as well??? other than the fact that it was for our salvation, but it wouldn't be so if Mary was perfect.
3. You're still praying to Mary, you're asking someone that didn't play much of a role in Christianity except giving birth to the Son of God, which He could have chosen anyone else for that matter. Giving birth WAS a big deal, but not something that makes them a saint. again...she was the SURROGATE mother.
And I agree with Crimson with that post (although that has nothing to do with what I'm posting about now). If Bush runs again...he's got my vote. I'm a Republican and not afraid to say so. Even if he wasn't a Republican or I wasn't, I would still respect the President's decision on things, it's a thing called respect. Which many people have forgotten about because they think slandering the President's reasonings for war is in the 1st Ammendment. Tell me...where does it say that you can create lies because you're opposed to what the President is doing????
Speak your opinion, you have the right, but don't say shit u don't know. Like war for the oil...where the hell did u protestors get that??? You may have gotten the idea...but where in the war is there been that we've captured the oil fields for ourselves??? We're protecting them from being set on fire again...but we are not using the oil for ourselves. If you're gonna use the 1st Ammendment to your ability...don't abuse it.
And just one more thing...remember how we got the right to voice our opinion. We had to claim our independance from Britain, which led us into war. Now...you're gonna say that you don't see how war helped us there. And I bet you don't see that the THREAT of war stopped Communism from controling the world. And you'll probably tell me that trying to help Europe in WW2 was in vain. War solves ALOT of issues. YES...it WOULD be better if we could solve them without war...but we can't. War is apart of life...there will still be more to come. And also...if you're a believer and yet a anti-war pacifist...then tell me that God didn't tell the Isrealites to engage in WARS with countries. Like the City of Jerhico...true...they didn't use violence...but it still was war. And many other times. He told the Isrealites to raise up against their captors and etc... War is what needs to be done. That's all there is to it.
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| Just a few thoughts... [message #13214] |
Thu, 10 April 2003 16:42 |
snipefrag
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I am very very tierd so i hope this makes sense, I am totally pro-war i think what America and England (i am english) have done in Iraq is amasing.
The Oil in Iraq was not a deciding factor in the war but if you think that bush is going to stroll pass it and not touch the stuff you are severely mistaken. He has allready proposed a "Oil for supplies thingy" (note i am very tierd and my brain just died**).
All you Anti-war people should fucking look at the real problem and stop being retards who cares about a little oil many lives are going to be saved which will totally outweight the casulties from this war.
The US, UK and hopfully the UN will help reform Iraq to a democratic country placey thingy magingy (note: can hardly keep my self awake**) which will be best for the people.
All of you people.... and your religions....... i dont have much to say to you i turned from that path a long time ago when i was about 15, but if your faith and beliefs help you understand this world then i am glad. Religion is based on Social norms and values if you think about it, and by living to those values the world would be a better place.
As a Scientist or a Scientist to be i try to stick to the facts and as i have heard no booming voice from the sky i draw my self to the logical conclusion that God does not exsist. I understand that religion is based of faith which i am sure will be your arguement...
My long winded conclusion is "religion is the dogs bollocks as long as you live by what you preach...... and you aint a fucking Phsyco with a ticking turban Bomb shouting G'Had ...
Now i got to Bed good night......
Snipefrag - Br20 Cr5 - TR Emerald
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