| "Why does Renegade suck?" [message #127134] |
Fri, 17 December 2004 14:48   |
Pavla
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hmm this is the 1000th post of ACK complaining about the balance, i'll tell you, I don't need 30000 Renegade players around here, i like this little community and want to keep it like this, me and my friend enjoy playing renegade wich runs on an average computer. I don't want to have a directx 9.0 video card to run my favorite game. Let everything be as it is, if you can't beat a sniper you should think about your own qualities and not about balancing. If westwood brought renegade out as they wanted i might didn't like it at all so let it be.
I won't reply anthing more in this topic, my point is clear
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| "Why does Renegade suck?" [message #127135] |
Fri, 17 December 2004 14:58 |
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YSLMuffins
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Well it is one way to describe one of the major issues sparking debate in this community as of late. One side wants change, the other doesn't. If anything, BHS needs to keep both sides happy.
Call me a purist or call me a conservative, but Renegade in itself was the game I grew to enjoy, and there are obviously a great number who feel the same way. Not a monopolized, even minority version of C&C that was shoved down my throat. Who's to say that Renegade should really be a C&C? Hell, I don't think C&C should be anything but an RTS, and that Generals isn't anything but EA capitalizing on the C&C name. Aircraftkiller et al., you've already come up with your own novel way of fixing the problem and realizing your vision--making your own game! I fail to see the need for the constant bashing of Renegade.
I continue to enjoy this game, and the many tweaks that BHS has done for Renegade. Whether or not it is a C&C, or should be, is debatable, and I abhor the incessant flak Renegade has been getting recently, especially considering the nature of this board.
-YSLMuffins
The goddess of all (bread products)
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| "Why does Renegade suck?" [message #127138] |
Fri, 17 December 2004 15:17 |
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YSLMuffins
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You know my stance on Generals.
-YSLMuffins
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| "Why does Renegade suck?" [message #127153] |
Fri, 17 December 2004 15:53 |
Spoony_old
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There are kinds of people who like to complain about something being bad, and there are kinds of people who will actually endeavour to improve them.
I'm not sure why I'm saying this, because I'm not totally clear which category Aircraftkiller is in.
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| "Why does Renegade suck?" [message #127166] |
Fri, 17 December 2004 16:24 |
loser99
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well I mean I think alot of ppl agree the game is not that much fun to play now... I dont understand how there are so many n00bs playing a 3 year old game
plus how can u possibly compare CS to Ren. They are completely different games. Ren has alot more depth if you ask me, CS is constant repetition and is based largely on aim. Im not saying that doesnt help in Ren, but if your aim sucks you can still do alot of other stuff.
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| "Why does Renegade suck?" [message #127185] |
Fri, 17 December 2004 17:39 |
flyingfox
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The only people going to fix the game are BHS...come on guys, I thought you were all about improving the game? what harm could it do, to make different versions of the official levels with all these balance changes people (inc. me) keep talking about?
fuck it, I might even PAY someone to do it..
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| "Why does Renegade suck?" [message #127191] |
Fri, 17 December 2004 17:55 |
msgtpain
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AssCrackFiller is under the assumption that if we change something in Renegade, it will spawn a whole new generation of "buyers" who will read this forum, see that the game is great, and then go out to the stores and buy it, thus, increasing our numbers.
Unfortunately, the sad truth is, WE'RE IT.. You're not going to go take 10,000 of those CS players and interest them in Renegade simply because you nerfed Havoc's gun.. get over it.. it isn't even a valid argument..
What IS a valid argument is, do you have the backing of the ENTIRE population of the remaining players? or would you be FURTHER fragmenting our fan base by going forward with those changes..
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| "Why does Renegade suck?" [message #127198] |
Fri, 17 December 2004 18:23 |
msgtpain
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I'd rather they implement the changes, if only to say fuck off to idiots like you.
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My point exactly... For three years now, it's been overly aparent that you honestly don't give a shit about what the Fan's what... it's always just been about what YOU want..
Sorry to say, our world's don't revolve around you.. they never have.
But as long as you keep making honest comments like that, we'll continue to convince all your little fanboys that you're really not who you say you are.
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| "Why does Renegade suck?" [message #127200] |
Fri, 17 December 2004 18:25 |
loser99
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well I mean i might go out on a limb with these statistics, alot of people play CS because its fun, but alot of people play CS because alot of people play CS. Know what I mean? If something is popular, its REALLY popular. Thats just how things work.
Ren has more depth than CS, i mean there is just more stuff to do. You can't argue that. But no one really plays it, so no one else really wants to play it. The opposite of CS.
Plus I think its stupid to compare Ren to the most sucessful FPS of all time. Like I said before its a completely different genre.
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| "Why does Renegade suck?" [message #127203] |
Fri, 17 December 2004 18:34 |
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Dave Mason
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Close this, it's getting really out of hand.
Just agree to disagree you two, please.
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| "Why does Renegade suck?" [message #127206] |
Fri, 17 December 2004 18:39 |
msgtpain
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You can't even satisfy your own server's fanbase, which is almost dead. Not to mention all the people who pretend to like you, but think you're a total fucking asshole when they talk to me about you.
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If people pretend to like me, they're doing it for their own misguided reasons.. I've never required anyone like me, and I don't give out any special privileges to anyone that does.. so, uh.. their loss? Quite possibly those people that pretend to be nice to me, are really just pretending to hate me in discussion with you; that way they can weasel you in to doing something for them.. who knows, and I'll bet even less people care.
As for the fan base.. you haven't played in a year, remember? So, exactly how are you qualifying what I am or am not giving players in relation to what they want? If you look at where the players are, they're all on servers running the latest and greatest mods which allow you to repair dead tanks, pick up all dropped weapons, and run over 10'x10' "special" crates planted randomly on the map.. Those aren't things we like on our server, and players that do will play somewhere else.
I'm sure you have stats for how many people play RenAlert over the span of the last 12 months? I'm also sure that those numbers are so staggering that it will undoubtedly prove that you are the master at providing players with what they want, right? I suppose all the missing Renegade players have moved on to RenAlert, since it's such a perfect game, and what Renegade was meant to be...
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| "Why does Renegade suck?" [message #127226] |
Fri, 17 December 2004 20:11 |
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rm5248
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| Aircraftkiller |
There's an old English saying... Those who commonly point out the flaws of others are seeing it in themselves.
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You're right! When you say that Reborn's work is crap, you're actually seeing that in your own work! :sly:
w00t?
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