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| Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word [message #127002] |
Fri, 17 December 2004 03:47   |
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addseale2
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Have you ever seen the tremors2?
I think the gun nut guy is named burt. Anyway remember that gun he used to take out that one walking graboid. It was like super powered and not only did it blow the graboid to pieces but it cut right threw the truck behind it.
THATS WHAT GUN SAKURA AND HAVOC ARE USING!
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You're being unusually coherent here, but I'm betting that gun "the Elephant Gun", they called it, didn't have infinite range, and wouldn't do more damage than a rocket launcher.
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It wasn't an elephant gun he had then, He had one in Tremors one. It was a 50mm anti tank rifle with custom-ordered copper-headed rounds.
And that was a shreaker, not a graboid.
"I walk once more, a god among mere mortals..."
Avatar of Khaine, Warhammer 40,000.
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| Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word [message #127067] |
Fri, 17 December 2004 11:07 |
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I never really use/used the n00bjet, It's so skillless it's the renegade AWP. Gimme a nice tiberium fletchette rifle or Nade launcher =)
"I walk once more, a god among mere mortals..."
Avatar of Khaine, Warhammer 40,000.
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| Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word [message #127292] |
Sat, 18 December 2004 09:01 |
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Your missing the point, it's not supposed to be anti-infantry only. If WS wanted it to be anti-infantry only then that would have been easy to arrange.
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I'll concede that I worded my statement badly.
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Also, the weapons you mentioned are more effective at damaging vehicles (even the lightly armored ones)
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Where the FUCK did you get that idea from? Have you ever actually played Renegade?
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| Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word [message #127400] |
Sat, 18 December 2004 16:44 |
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Where the FUCK did you get that idea from? Have you ever actually played Renegade?
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No, I've never played the game before in my life, I just like to hang around message boards and talk about the intricate details of it.
You were comparing the Ramjet to the likes of Mendoza/Sydney and Railgun/PIC. These are both more effective at taking out lightly armored vehicles when they're in range. If you mean conventional ones like rocket soldiers then no, characters that cost approximately $400 are not as effective against light armor as the Ramjet is.
-smwScott
47% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
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| Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word [message #127401] |
Sat, 18 December 2004 17:11 |
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No, I've never played the game before in my life, I just like to hang around message boards and talk about the intricate details of it.
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I honestly can't tell whether you're being sarcastic or not.
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You were comparing the Ramjet to the likes of Mendoza/Sydney and Railgun/PIC. These are both more effective at taking out lightly armored vehicles when they're in range.
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No, they aren't...
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| Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word [message #127403] |
Sat, 18 December 2004 17:20 |
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No, I've never played the game before in my life, I just like to hang around message boards and talk about the intricate details of it.
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I honestly can't tell whether you're being sarcastic or not.
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It's pretty obvious.
cause = time
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| Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word [message #127508] |
Sun, 19 December 2004 06:35 |
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Well if ramjet users are a problem, just get someone who's decent at sniping to get a 500 sniper. If they are any good, they should be able to wipe out most of the ramjet users allowing your team to continue with using light armour vehicles.
Teamwork.
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| Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word [message #127519] |
Sun, 19 December 2004 07:32 |
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That isn't the point...
The point is that Ramjets are horribly overpowered. Just because a Ramjet user can be killed by a more highly-skilled player using, say, a 500 sniper, does not solve the overpower problem of the Ramjet.
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| Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word [message #127531] |
Sun, 19 December 2004 08:42 |
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Both sides have ramjet, so both sides can 'fight fire with fire'. If they get ramjets, you get them. Or even better, you out skill them with a lesser infantry type. This works on any sniper/infantry character in the game - I know from experience.
This is Renegade, where infantry will rule the game if not controlled. It's been like this since beta, and it doesn't need changing (IMHO).
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| Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word [message #127546] |
Sun, 19 December 2004 10:29 |
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=gbull=[L]=]yes it does spoony, more skilled players beat less skilled players, its the way the game works. If you cant adapt to destroy the Ramjet then the Ramjet will destroy you. Cuz if you you kill a ramjet, then.....hes gone! woohoo! problem solved. if he comes back, do it again. and until he realizes that he cant compete, u keep scoring 90 points offa hs.
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Absolutely dead wrong.
Here's what's more likely to happen. A semi-skilled player buys a ramjet, gets lots of kills by bodyshotting (and thinks he's a 1337 sniper for doing so), gets ridiculous amounts of points by shooting tanks from the other end of the map, then gets headshotted by someone who is actually good at the game using a 500 sniper.
From the n00bjetter's point of view, that's a good trade for his life. Lots of easy kills, lots of easy points, zero skill used. So he'll keep doing it.
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| Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word [message #127549] |
Sun, 19 December 2004 11:03 |
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=gbull=[L]=]yes it does spoony, more skilled players beat less skilled players, its the way the game works. If you cant adapt to destroy the Ramjet then the Ramjet will destroy you. Cuz if you you kill a ramjet, then.....hes gone! woohoo! problem solved. if he comes back, do it again. and until he realizes that he cant compete, u keep scoring 90 points offa hs.
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Absolutely dead wrong.
Here's what's more likely to happen. A semi-skilled player buys a ramjet, gets lots of kills by bodyshotting (and thinks he's a 1337 sniper for doing so), gets ridiculous amounts of points by shooting tanks from the other end of the map, then gets headshotted by someone who is actually good at the game using a 500 sniper.
From the n00bjetter's point of view, that's a good trade for his life. Lots of easy kills, lots of easy points, zero skill used. So he'll keep doing it.
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Then the 500 sniper will kill him again and again till the person can't buy a ramjet, so he has to be a normal soldier. Where he will get HS by that 500 sniper everytime he walks out of base. 
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| Havoc\Sakura on Ramjet Rifles - Final Word [message #127558] |
Sun, 19 December 2004 12:10 |
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We're assuming no one else is trying to kill this 500 sniper? In reality there are gonna be other n00bjetters on the enemy, so he will have a withering hail of bodyshots to face. APCs coming after him. Who knows, there might also be a decent sniper on the opposition as well.
You are completely missing the point. The point is, and always has been, that the fact you can kill a Havoc with one shot still means they are horribly overpowered.
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