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Sat, 04 December 2004 21:00

Aircraftkiller
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Registered: February 2003

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Of course, I've only been designing game levels since 1995, I obviously don't know what I'm talking about.

So much for helping this guy... But I'll give it a shot anyway.

What icedog was trying to say is a technique I use for RA levels. Basically Stage 1 mapping is an additional detail map overlaid on the first texture. You can do a lot of things with this that can look nearly Source quality if you understand how the detail shaders work.

For example I've created shifting portals that appear to phase in and out of reality with the SubR shader coupled with specially designed textures to compliment that shader. The pulsing light effect, impossible in Renegade without shaders, is done with SubR. SubR can make a light that looks like a radio tower light that slowly turns on and off, warning approaching aircraft of its presence.

Scale acts like multiply except it's more intensive in the way it darkens areas. Scale is what I use to break up the terrain in RA with light and dark areas. A simple Photoshop cloud filter adjusted and modified can make terrain look very real with little video card expense.

The add shader is not reccomended for anything you could do with the add shader in a second pass. It will make the shader's texture emissive in terms of texture color and will stand out bright. I've used it on parking lots only to find they glow in the dark, which ruins any atmosphere I was trying to go for.

The other shaders are exceptionally useful and it's unfortunate that people refuse to spend a few hours to learn about their functions and how they can improve the graphics in a game that has medicore graphics because of under-utilization of its rendering abilities.

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		"Stealth is key" By: Renardin6 on Wed, 01 December 2004 09:00
		"Stealth is key" By: cheesesoda on Wed, 01 December 2004 09:02
		"Stealth is key" By: Renardin6 on Wed, 01 December 2004 09:15
		"Stealth is key" By: cheesesoda on Wed, 01 December 2004 09:19
		"Stealth is key" By: Renardin6 on Wed, 01 December 2004 09:43
		"Stealth is key" By: Hav0c on Wed, 01 December 2004 10:06
		"Stealth is key" By: Jecht on Wed, 01 December 2004 11:32
		"Stealth is key" By: Oblivion165 on Wed, 01 December 2004 12:28
		"Stealth is key" By: Spice on Wed, 01 December 2004 12:39
		"Stealth is key" By: Oblivion165 on Wed, 01 December 2004 13:08
		"Stealth is key" By: Spice on Wed, 01 December 2004 13:11
		"Stealth is key" By: Oblivion165 on Wed, 01 December 2004 13:14
		"Stealth is key" By: Spice on Wed, 01 December 2004 13:16
		"Stealth is key" By: Oblivion165 on Wed, 01 December 2004 13:18
		"Stealth is key" By: Spice on Wed, 01 December 2004 13:24
		"Stealth is key" By: Oblivion165 on Wed, 01 December 2004 13:31
		"Stealth is key" By: Spice on Wed, 01 December 2004 13:44
		"Stealth is key" By: cheesesoda on Wed, 01 December 2004 13:48
		"Stealth is key" By: Oblivion165 on Wed, 01 December 2004 13:58
		"Stealth is key" By: cheesesoda on Wed, 01 December 2004 14:01
		"Stealth is key" By: Oblivion165 on Wed, 01 December 2004 14:03
		"Stealth is key" By: glyde51 on Wed, 01 December 2004 15:35
		"Stealth is key" By: Stryder on Wed, 01 December 2004 16:24
		"Stealth is key" By: Jaspah on Wed, 01 December 2004 17:15
		"Stealth is key" By: YSLMuffins on Wed, 01 December 2004 17:16
		"Stealth is key" By: Titan1x77 on Wed, 01 December 2004 22:25
		"Stealth is key" By: bigejoe14 on Wed, 01 December 2004 22:32
		"Stealth is key" By: Titan1x77 on Wed, 01 December 2004 22:35
		"Stealth is key" By: TeMpLaR on Thu, 02 December 2004 04:11
		"Stealth is key" By: Madtone on Thu, 02 December 2004 05:47
		"Stealth is key" By: Beanyhead on Thu, 02 December 2004 13:10
		"Stealth is key" By: YSLMuffins on Thu, 02 December 2004 15:25
		"Stealth is key" By: Spice on Thu, 02 December 2004 17:38
		"Stealth is key" By: SuperFlyingEngi on Thu, 02 December 2004 18:55
		"Stealth is key" By: Renardin6 on Thu, 02 December 2004 19:48
		"Stealth is key" By: Jecht on Fri, 03 December 2004 01:13
		"Stealth is key" By: cheesesoda on Fri, 03 December 2004 06:48
		"Stealth is key" By: Renardin6 on Fri, 03 December 2004 08:56
		"Stealth is key" By: cheesesoda on Fri, 03 December 2004 09:19
		"Stealth is key" By: m1a1_abrams on Fri, 03 December 2004 10:15
		"Stealth is key" By: cheesesoda on Fri, 03 December 2004 10:36
		"Stealth is key" By: Renardin6 on Fri, 03 December 2004 10:52
		"Stealth is key" By: cheesesoda on Fri, 03 December 2004 10:59
		"Stealth is key" By: Renardin6 on Sat, 04 December 2004 07:35
		"Stealth is key" By: Sir Phoenixx on Sat, 04 December 2004 08:58
		"Stealth is key" By: glyde51 on Sat, 04 December 2004 09:04
		"Stealth is key" By: cheesesoda on Sat, 04 December 2004 09:12
		"Stealth is key" By: Renardin6 on Sat, 04 December 2004 10:33
		"Stealth is key" By: glyde51 on Sat, 04 December 2004 10:42
		"Stealth is key" By: Renardin6 on Sat, 04 December 2004 10:47
		"Stealth is key" By: glyde51 on Sat, 04 December 2004 10:50
		"Stealth is key" By: Renardin6 on Sat, 04 December 2004 10:55
		"Stealth is key" By: cheesesoda on Sat, 04 December 2004 10:55
		"Stealth is key" By: glyde51 on Sat, 04 December 2004 11:01
		"Stealth is key" By: Slash0x on Sat, 04 December 2004 12:26
		"Stealth is key" By: Pendullum on Sat, 04 December 2004 15:26
		"Stealth is key" By: Naamloos on Sat, 04 December 2004 15:29
		"Stealth is key" By: Aircraftkiller on Sat, 04 December 2004 15:47
		"Stealth is key" By: Spice on Sat, 04 December 2004 18:00
		"Stealth is key" By: icedog90 on Sat, 04 December 2004 18:02
		"Stealth is key" By: glyde51 on Sat, 04 December 2004 18:06
		"Stealth is key" By: Slash0x on Sat, 04 December 2004 18:21
		"Stealth is key" By: icedog90 on Sat, 04 December 2004 18:26
		"Stealth is key" By: cowmisfit on Sat, 04 December 2004 18:26
		"Stealth is key" By: Slash0x on Sat, 04 December 2004 18:28
		"Stealth is key" By: glyde51 on Sat, 04 December 2004 18:30
		"Stealth is key" By: icedog90 on Sat, 04 December 2004 18:53
		"Stealth is key" By: Slash0x on Sat, 04 December 2004 19:09
		"Stealth is key" By: glyde51 on Sat, 04 December 2004 19:11
		"Stealth is key" By: SuperFlyingEngi on Sat, 04 December 2004 20:57
		"Stealth is key" By: cheesesoda on Sat, 04 December 2004 21:00
		"Stealth is key" By: Aircraftkiller on Sat, 04 December 2004 21:00
		"Stealth is key" By: Renardin6 on Sun, 05 December 2004 07:50
		"Stealth is key" By: cheesesoda on Sun, 05 December 2004 09:33
		"Stealth is key" By: Jecht on Sun, 05 December 2004 10:27
		"Stealth is key" By: Naamloos on Sun, 05 December 2004 11:35
		"Stealth is key" By: Slash0x on Sun, 05 December 2004 11:57
		"Stealth is key" By: Renardin6 on Sun, 05 December 2004 13:16
		"Stealth is key" By: glyde51 on Sun, 05 December 2004 13:18
		"Stealth is key" By: TankClash on Sun, 05 December 2004 14:05
		"Stealth is key" By: icedog90 on Sun, 05 December 2004 15:01
		"Stealth is key" By: Spice on Sun, 05 December 2004 15:41
		"Stealth is key" By: cowmisfit on Sun, 05 December 2004 18:35
		"Stealth is key" By: Jecht on Sun, 05 December 2004 20:11
		"Stealth is key" By: icedog90 on Sun, 05 December 2004 20:53
		"Stealth is key" By: Jecht on Sun, 05 December 2004 21:47
		"Stealth is key" By: icedog90 on Sun, 05 December 2004 21:52
		"Stealth is key" By: cheesesoda on Sun, 05 December 2004 21:53
		"Stealth is key" By: Jecht on Sun, 05 December 2004 21:54
		"Stealth is key" By: icedog90 on Sun, 05 December 2004 22:10
		"Stealth is key" By: Jecht on Sun, 05 December 2004 22:20
		"Stealth is key" By: Slash0x on Mon, 06 December 2004 00:35
		"Stealth is key" By: Slash0x on Mon, 06 December 2004 00:44
		"Stealth is key" By: icedog90 on Mon, 06 December 2004 00:58
		"Stealth is key" By: cheesesoda on Mon, 06 December 2004 07:02
		"Stealth is key" By: Jecht on Mon, 06 December 2004 08:30
		"Stealth is key" By: cheesesoda on Mon, 06 December 2004 08:34
		"Stealth is key" By: Naamloos on Mon, 06 December 2004 08:43
		"Stealth is key" By: Jecht on Mon, 06 December 2004 10:57
		"Stealth is key" By: Slash0x on Mon, 06 December 2004 12:21
		"Stealth is key" By: cheesesoda on Mon, 06 December 2004 12:23
		"Stealth is key" By: Slash0x on Mon, 06 December 2004 12:41
		"Stealth is key" By: cheesesoda on Mon, 06 December 2004 12:51
		"Stealth is key" By: Pendullum on Mon, 06 December 2004 13:22
		"Stealth is key" By: cheesesoda on Mon, 06 December 2004 13:23
		"Stealth is key" By: Spice on Mon, 06 December 2004 13:26
		"Stealth is key" By: Slash0x on Mon, 06 December 2004 13:30
		"Stealth is key" By: cheesesoda on Mon, 06 December 2004 13:33
		"Stealth is key" By: Slash0x on Mon, 06 December 2004 14:49
		"Stealth is key" By: flyingfox on Mon, 06 December 2004 14:51
		"Stealth is key" By: cheesesoda on Mon, 06 December 2004 14:52
		"Stealth is key" By: WNxCABAL on Mon, 06 December 2004 15:24
		"Stealth is key" By: Aircraftkiller on Mon, 06 December 2004 15:34
		"Stealth is key" By: Lance3066 on Mon, 06 December 2004 15:47
		"Stealth is key" By: WNxCABAL on Mon, 06 December 2004 16:36
		"Stealth is key" By: icedog90 on Mon, 06 December 2004 16:46
		"Stealth is key" By: Stryder on Mon, 06 December 2004 16:49
		"Stealth is key" By: icedog90 on Mon, 06 December 2004 16:56

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