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It's like, the community would have been a better place without ack. All the other modders may have made more mods and maps without ack's constant criticism.


Honestly... if these modders were anything, they wouldn't let one person stop them from doing what they are going to do. If they are, they probably shouldn't have started modding in the first place.
Adios [message #12248] Sun, 06 April 2003 19:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Don't play stupid with me. You directed that post at me and it was obvious.

Tell it like it is and don't bullshit people with attempted mind games. "Oh, I didn't know I was directing that at you. Even though I've attacked you before. More than once. Because I wanted to."

Right...


hell I could care less. when i'm wavin my middle fingers around it is directed at you. i don't give a f*ck. do somethin. or should i say, get your friends to do something, because you yourself have no power.
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That's what you think, Raven. Many others have made the same mistake. Guess what, I'm still here, after more than two years.

Swear words aren't censored here. :rolleyes:
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Aircraftkiller

It's not like he did anything to begin with.

Boo hoo, asshole.


For once I agree with ACK
Adios [message #12291] Mon, 07 April 2003 02:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The renegade community wont survive like this :C http://www.fboehm.de/fsr/smilies/darksky/wall.gif

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Adios [message #12294] Mon, 07 April 2003 03:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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LOL,

I get such a chuckle from reading these forums.....keep it up lads, keep it up.
Adios [message #12313] Mon, 07 April 2003 07:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Aircraftkiller

That's what you think, Raven. Many others have made the same mistake. Guess what, I'm still here, after more than two years.

Swear words aren't censored here. :rolleyes:


they aren't until i put one down
Adios [message #12315] Mon, 07 April 2003 07:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Aircraftkiller

It's not like he did anything to begin with.

Boo hoo, asshole.



O......k..... so then it doesn't matter if someone who hasn't done anything for the community leaves????

Isn't being a member of the community in it's own right contributing to the community???? if there were only the 'main contributors' in the community that leaves.....

You
Crimson
Blazer
SomeRhino (you said he made good/decent maps)
Dante
John Wil
The Pits
+ those types of contributors

If there were no fans there would be no reason for the setting up of the renegade forums, we/you need these fans to keep renegade alive if the non-contributors left and we were left with the names above in the whole community, we'll you see what i'm getting at....... not much of a community is it.

You may not be concerned about 'non-contributors' leaving but the rest of the community is. You are only damaging the community even further by you thought less comments.

These fans are the ones that wished you a happy birthday not so long ago 2 pages + of "happy birthday ACK happy birthday thank for all your hard work we really appreciate it" (which no one disputes that you dont do) and you slam it back in there faces! like this!

If you want to work in the Entertainments Industry, stop wasting you time abusing the community that likes and supports your work!! (of course there is always one/a few bad apple(s), but hey thats life)

If the definition of a n00b is the way Crimson say it is on the n00bstories home page you are the biggest n00b of all!!!! as you are hindering the team (renegade community) in there goal to create a fun an vibrant community.

Do us all a favor sonny and grow up. :rolleyes:

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Adios [message #12377] Mon, 07 April 2003 15:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Aircraftkiller

It's not like he did anything to begin with.

Boo hoo, asshole.



O......k..... so then it doesn't matter if someone who hasn't done anything for the community leaves????

Isn't being a member of the community in it's own right contributing to the community???? if there were only the 'main contributors' in the community that leaves.....

You
Crimson
Blazer
SomeRhino (you said he made good/decent maps)
Dante
John Wil
The Pits
+ those types of contributors

If there were no fans there would be no reason for the setting up of the renegade forums, we/you need these fans to keep renegade alive if the non-contributors left and we were left with the names above in the whole community, we'll you see what i'm getting at....... not much of a community is it.

You may not be concerned about 'non-contributors' leaving but the rest of the community is. You are only damaging the community even further by you thought less comments.

These fans are the ones that wished you a happy birthday not so long ago 2 pages + of "happy birthday ACK happy birthday thank for all your hard work we really appreciate it" (which no one disputes that you dont do) and you slam it back in there faces! like this!

If you want to work in the Entertainments Industry, stop wasting you time abusing the community that likes and supports your work!! (of course there is always one/a few bad apple(s), but hey thats life)

If the definition of a n00b is the way Crimson say it is on the n00bstories home page you are the biggest n00b of all!!!! as you are hindering the team (renegade community) in there goal to create a fun an vibrant community.

Do us all a favor sonny and grow up. :rolleyes:

Ownage Cool


Right... You go off on a tangent about me insulting some asshole who was insulting me.

Am I supposed to just say "Hey, you can do whatever you want to me, I won't defend myself?"

Negative. I'll speak my mind as I please, because that's who I am and what I do. If speaking my mind is a crime, then you're all criminals. Keep that in your memory because you'll run across others like me. "I don't necessarily agree with your views, but I'll fight to the death for your right to speak them."

Just remember: If you haven't done anything for this community, no one is going to care if you leave. If all you do is come here and bitch about me, then no one gives a fuck about you.

That's the full truth there, chief. You've seen it in action.
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Just remember: If you haven't done anything for this community, no one is going to care if you leave. If all you do is come here and bitch about me, then no one gives a fuck about you.

I'm glad you speak for me. Who appointed you to that position again?

The funny part is you are so wrong and you cant even see it, let alone admit it. The actual truth is, every member makes up the community, not just those who you see fit to be a part of it. The vast majority of the community is made up of players and people with lessor skills than you, and without them there would be no community. There wouldn’t even be a game because they would have sold enough copies to pay the programmers and the developers. Then where you be? It’s like having a government without people to govern. It’s just not possible.


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Adios [message #12419] Mon, 07 April 2003 16:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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OMG WOW

Are you like incapable of reading?

Or do you just enjoy twisting my words?

HERE IT IS IN PLAIN ENGLISH: "IF YOU DON'T DO ANYTHING FOR THE COMMUNITY NO ONE IS GOING TO REALLY CARE IF YOU LEAVE OR NOT. I NEVER ONCE SAID THAT YOU WEREN'T A PART OF THE COMMUNITY IF YOU DIDN'T DO ANYTHING FOR IT.

DURR

WAKE UP

READ BEFORE YOU POST.
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Big words don’t make you any closer to being right. People do care if people leave, no matter how worthless you think they are. You can see it in this very post. This very post. Are you gonna deny that too? You can try a larger font size, but I don’t think it will help.

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Adios [message #12475] Mon, 07 April 2003 20:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Don't assume so much ACK, you don't know it all. And as far as the community coming back up, thats false, Its going down.Everuy month the amount of accounts on ladder goes down. The mods are oming out to late in Renegades life, and when PS (god bless that game) comes out, renegades community will shrink further

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Oh yea, a contribution to the community can be as simple as playing or having a server. Ravens has had a big server up. Thats a big contribution. I had my presence in the game, which nor staying modest, I like to beleive in the sumemr holidays, I made an effect on people, mostly positive, and gave other people a chance to have a new friend as well as me. (In sumer, Devshouse was filled with mostly the same players all 2 months. We were like our own mini-commity.) The mere pressence of someone is a contribution becasue the more who play ren, the longer community lasts.

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Adios [message #12479] Mon, 07 April 2003 21:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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yeah ack, it's pessimists who put everyone down like you who hurt the community. and he's right, your damn renegade alert is way way too late. took you guys way way too long to come up with something that pathetic. i mean, honestly, i believe i've contributed more to the community than you have, hands down. you make crap maps, what percentage of the games that are up do you see hosting your maps? very low, and at most times, none. i host what i'm told the biggest and best server on renegade. you make the most and least quality maps on renegade. so? you want a cookie?
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Hellweed

Big words don’t make you any closer to being right. People do care if people leave, no matter how worthless you think they are. You can see it in this very post. This very post. Are you gonna deny that too? You can try a larger font size, but I don’t think it will help.


Right, notice like the three people supporting him are anti-me? Who would have thought? What would make me right, though? Blindly agreeing with you and giving up? :rolleyes: Not a chance in hell, jackass.

Raven, I wouldn't have believed it possible for you to argue with yourself, but you just did. Um, congratulations? Did you have a point? I lost it in all of the contradictions you made.
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to add my thoughts...

or

to not add my thoughts


Never Say Die!!!

I am a Renegade Beta Tester; feel free to ask me questions.

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If anything in this life is certain; if history has taught us anything, it's that you can kill anyone.

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Right, notice like the three people supporting him are anti-me? Who would have thought? What would make me right, though? Blindly agreeing with you and giving up? :rolleyes: Not a chance in hell, jackass.

I count at least 10 different people in this thread alone. I don't care who it is, running people out of the community is not productive no matter what kind of spin you want to put on it. In this case, less is not greater than more. Every member counts and if you lose sight of that, then you lost sight of the community’s goal to grow. Is that not our goal? If you agree with that, I’m not sure what you think you'd be giving up.


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Am I one of them? Wink

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It's not like he did anything to begin with.

Boo hoo, asshole.



O......k..... so then it doesn't matter if someone who hasn't done anything for the community leaves????

Isn't being a member of the community in it's own right contributing to the community???? if there were only the 'main contributors' in the community that leaves.....

You
Crimson
Blazer
SomeRhino (you said he made good/decent maps)
Dante
John Wil
The Pits
+ those types of contributors

If there were no fans there would be no reason for the setting up of the renegade forums, we/you need these fans to keep renegade alive if the non-contributors left and we were left with the names above in the whole community, we'll you see what i'm getting at....... not much of a community is it.

You may not be concerned about 'non-contributors' leaving but the rest of the community is. You are only damaging the community even further by you thought less comments.

These fans are the ones that wished you a happy birthday not so long ago 2 pages + of "happy birthday ACK happy birthday thank for all your hard work we really appreciate it" (which no one disputes that you dont do) and you slam it back in there faces! like this!

If you want to work in the Entertainments Industry, stop wasting you time abusing the community that likes and supports your work!! (of course there is always one/a few bad apple(s), but hey thats life)

If the definition of a n00b is the way Crimson say it is on the n00bstories home page you are the biggest n00b of all!!!! as you are hindering the team (renegade community) in there goal to create a fun an vibrant community.

Do us all a favor sonny and grow up. :rolleyes:

Ownage Cool


Right... You go off on a tangent about me insulting some asshole who was insulting me.

Am I supposed to just say "Hey, you can do whatever you want to me, I won't defend myself?"

Negative. I'll speak my mind as I please, because that's who I am and what I do. If speaking my mind is a crime, then you're all criminals. Keep that in your memory because you'll run across others like me. "I don't necessarily agree with your views, but I'll fight to the death for your right to speak them."

Just remember: If you haven't done anything for this community, no one is going to care if you leave. If all you do is come here and bitch about me, then no one gives a fuck about you.

That's the full truth there, chief. You've seen it in action.


Do what you want, speak how you want, It bothers me not your just a bit of text on my VDU Razz :rolleyes: it is effecting the community not my personal wellbeing

The point my tangent was making is that some types of behaviour is reducing the numbers in the community as stated here,

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I count at least 10 different people in this thread alone. I don't care who it is, running people out of the community is not productive no matter what kind of spin you want to put on it. In this case, less is not greater than more. Every member counts and if you lose sight of that, then you lost sight of the community’s goal to grow. Is that not our goal? If you agree with that, I’m not sure what you think you'd be giving up.


here,

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Well, this is my first ever farewell message for ANY community EVER.

Since the official Renegade boards closed and westwood shut an all, I've been drifting into Generals. For the last few days I've been trying to get back into Renegade, but it was quickly made apparent that I wasn't wanted.
There are some people out there who do work hard to make this a good community. But then there are some who seem to get kicks out of spoiling that and making everyone else's time miserable.
This community is dying, fast, and I dont have to put up with that shit.

With that said, I'm leaving and going to Generals. The Generals community is much more welcome. People actually help people to the best of their ability, instead of flaming them or telling them "to do a forum search" because they can't be arsed to give some handy links or advice.
Flaming is practically non-existent in the Generals community, which is why mods develop faster, more and better skins come out, ect. The nicer environment encourages the harder work being put in by much more people.
It puts meaning on the phrase "I'm going to a better place".
I tried to fit in. I tried to help people. But to many decided to stand in my way with unlimited ammo flamethrowers.

Bye Renegade community. I'll still be playing the game occasionally, but nothing more.
Have a good life, for those of you who have one.

Sincerely, unregrettably,

Luke Morgan - aka killakanz


here,

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It's like, the community would have been a better place without ack. All the other modders may have made more mods and maps without ack's constant criticism.


here,

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*Slaps ACK around with a Pink Fuzzy Mac*


(ok so that was just funny Razz )

here,

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Oh for **** sake Ack, thats the sort of people he is talking about,
are u blind or just incredibly incredibly stupid? or both?


here,
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Killing the Renegade community 1 member at a time.
Its seems you plan is really coming together. Nice work!



here,
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I was referring the members who belittled and berated this guy to leave the community.

Maybe you have a guilty conscience or something.

(note: this is refering to behaviour that is reducing the community not you in person, not everyone is anti ACK, I for one admire your work but voicing your oppinions is damaging the community, do you really only care about getting a job in this industry and not of the community? because that is how it seems)

(do you have a guilty conscience? twice people have refered to a 'type of behavior' that is affecting the community and you instantly take it as an attack on you?!?!?)



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There are some people out there who do work hard to make this a good community. But then there are some who seem to get kicks out of spoiling that and making everyone else's time miserable.


couldn't this be a comment also refering to Vegito's (think that is his name) constant slamming of your work?? again
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Maybe you have a guilty conscience or something


So unless you want to be making maps and playing renegade online with a very small community, please change your ways.

I'm sure it would bother most other members of the renegade community if the community died, because of certain......... behaviours :rolleyes:

And because you didn't dispute it and you called me a
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chief
have this again
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If the definition of a n00b is the way Crimson say it is on the n00bstories home page you are the biggest n00b of all!!!! as you are hindering the team (renegade community) in there goal to create a fun an vibrant community.
Razz Razz Razz


One last thing
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Do what you want, speak how you want, It bothers me not your just a bit of text on my VDU Razz :rolleyes: it is effecting the community not my personal wellbeing


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ahhh....oh...don't mind me i'm just warming myself next to the flame.

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(note: this is refering to behaviour that is reducing the community not you in person, not everyone is anti ACK, I for one admire your work but voicing your oppinions is damaging the community, do you really only care about getting a job in this industry and not of the community? because that is how it seems)

(do you have a guilty conscience? twice people have refered to a 'type of behavior' that is affecting the community and you instantly take it as an attack on you?!?!?)


This is the only thing worth responding to out of the rest of your babbling diatribe.

If my opinions damage the community, then this community isn't very strong and I honestly couldn't give a fuck, at that point. If they let one person who freely says what he thinks destroy their community, then it's a community of pussy little kids.

Guilty conscience because I take an attack on myself as being what it really is? Come on now, champ - you should know that twisting stuff around doesn't work with me. You know they wrote their replies with the intention of attacking me, and I defended myself. Simple as that.

A bunch of smiley "faces" and loads of quotes do not make an argument, nor do they make a real flame. Try again.
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ahhh....oh...don't mind me i'm just warming myself next to the flame.


lol Very Happy


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It's really sad the community to be like this... but you guys have to think it's not just ACK who does these things. It's the big mouths of the community as well. It's comments like ACK's that destroys a person, YES. And I would agree that ACK is most of the time... a shit head. But it's not just him... there are a lot of people.

When people keep insulting someone who's a real noob. They put up so much of this noobness... that it isn't even funny. When someone make another map, insulted... someone just learning how to play, insulted... someone make a comment, so very insulted and maybe threatend as well... do I make sense?

So I beg you... the community... think first before you type it here. Be sensitive to other people even if they are noobs. If you guys want to put down the community by all means continue with your bashing. But if you want to put more people in... to encourage new people here... for the community to grow. Please, no, I beg you... consider what you are typing here. A lot of people take it seriously... if you want to be respected then respect others.


Renegade is a team based game... not a Rambo style game. For without teamwork, non shall be accomplished.
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(note: this is refering to behaviour that is reducing the community not you in person, not everyone is anti ACK, I for one admire your work but voicing your oppinions is damaging the community, do you really only care about getting a job in this industry and not of the community? because that is how it seems)

(do you have a guilty conscience? twice people have refered to a 'type of behavior' that is affecting the community and you instantly take it as an attack on you?!?!?)


This is the only thing worth responding to out of the rest of your babbling diatribe.

If my opinions damage the community, then this community isn't very strong and I honestly couldn't give a fuck, at that point. If they let one person who freely says what he thinks destroy their community, then it's a community of pussy little kids.

Guilty conscience because I take an attack on myself as being what it really is? Come on now, champ - you should know that twisting stuff around doesn't work with me. You know they wrote their replies with the intention of attacking me, and I defended myself. Simple as that.

A bunch of smiley "faces" and loads of quotes do not make an argument, nor do they make a real flame. Try again.


Why do you think i'm trying to flame?? argue?? i'm making a factual point using quotes. :rolleyes:

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If my opinions damage the community, then this community isn't very strong and I honestly couldn't give a fuck

Nice, tearing down all the hard work that Crimson and Blazer are putting in to making these forums a success.


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