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You're Downloading Communism [message #120569] Sat, 16 October 2004 16:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Pre-WW2 Germany and the USSR had a love-hate relationship. Their Political views were the same


WTF? Pre-WW2 Germany was a facist state (Extream Right), the USSR was a Communist state (Extrame Left) they were nothing alike Stalin and Hitler hated each other. The only reason they had an alliance was because Hitler didn't want to have to fight a war on 2 fronts like the Germans did in WW1 and Stalin felt he was being given the "short end of the stick" in having to fight half of Germany's far superior army with little or no help from Western Europe.

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If you take my post and the start of Laeubi's post you will see that you are wrong. A welfare state does not mean Marxism, Hitler set up parts of a welfare state yet he was facist. America has a welfare state, does that mean is't Socialist?
You're Downloading Communism [message #120570] Sat, 16 October 2004 16:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just because someone has some properties of a witch doesn't mean she is a witch.

still no arguments that support for "based" , "reigns supreme" statements.
You're Downloading Communism [message #120583] Sat, 16 October 2004 17:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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America isn't a welfare state. Germany is. Part of Marxist idealogy is providing for everyone to make them equal regardless of job or stature.

This means Germany is based on Marxist idealogy. Do you get it yet or do I have to simplify it into baby-speak?
You're Downloading Communism [message #120596] Sat, 16 October 2004 17:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Please do everyone a favor and stop posting this crap for one ive just skimed it and thats enought o know you failed world history and elp and high school if you cant come up with anything better to tell people you dont like reborn than this crap then just stop saying it.
You're Downloading Communism [message #120597] Sat, 16 October 2004 17:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You could also argue that these forums are based on Marxist ideaology.... The point is, EVERYTHING can be based on that. It depends on how you look at it.

w00t?
You're Downloading Communism [message #120605] Sat, 16 October 2004 17:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"is providing for everyone to make them equal regardless of job or stature. " definitly this is not the fact in germany. people earn money in different amounts. richer get richer. poorer get poorer.

and i think its not a bad thing (or even marxism) that womans have the same rights as man. your not judge by your religion and so on. is that different in your coutry? i hope not.

should i go into baby-speak before you realize that your line of arguments is based on nothing? because you dont know anything real about the life in germany.

so where is your argument?
we dont have to proof your wrong until you make a serious proof you are right.

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You're Downloading Communism [message #120607] Sat, 16 October 2004 17:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Please do everyone a favor and stop posting this crap for one ive just skimed it and thats enought o know you failed world history and elp and high school if you cant come up with anything better to tell people you dont like reborn than this crap then just stop saying it.


You haven't proven me wrong by saying "omg u u u r r r ure ure ure bad spell0ringz," want to try doing it instead of looking like an ignorant assclown?

If I feel like posting things about Reborn, I'll do it. If you don't like it, shut the hell up. Thanks! Smile

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You could also argue that these forums are based on Marxist ideaology.... The point is, EVERYTHING can be based on that. It depends on how you look at it.


You know if you're going to argue the least you can do is prove your argument as being correct instead of giving me this drivel. It doesn't matter if it can be viewed in different ways. According to the dictionary, Germany is based on Marxist idealogy. I'm not saying that's good or bad -- I'm saying that's what Germany is based on, even if it's a small part of their governmental policies.

Try harder, seriously. This is not a challenge.
You're Downloading Communism [message #120608] Sat, 16 October 2004 17:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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if you post things about reborn that fine. its your opinion.
but if you telling lies (and not opinions) about a country you not know. better shut your mouth.

btw ack is based on marxist ideology (proof me wrong)

"I'm saying that's what Germany is based on, even if it's a small part of their governmental policies. " so its yours saying its small but on the other site reigns supreme here. how this fit into the logics. and as laeubi pointet out dont confuse between bismark and marx.


ich hör besser auf mit dem kleinen jungen zu reden er wird es eh nicht verstehen. er ist bestimmt trotzig zuzugeben das ein es nicht der realität entspricht. hat sich denke ich so auch schon genug lächerlich gemacht.

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You're Downloading Communism [message #120610] Sat, 16 October 2004 18:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Pre-WW2 Germany and the USSR had a love-hate relationship. Their Political views were the same


WTF? Pre-WW2 Germany was a facist state (Extream Right), the USSR was a Communist state (Extrame Left) they were nothing alike Stalin and Hitler hated each other. The only reason they had an alliance was because Hitler didn't want to have to fight a war on 2 fronts like the Germans did in WW1 and Stalin felt he was being given the "short end of the stick" in having to fight half of Germany's far superior army with little or no help from Western Europe.

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If you take my post and the start of Laeubi's post you will see that you are wrong. A welfare state does not mean Marxism, Hitler set up parts of a welfare state yet he was facist. America has a welfare state, does that mean is't Socialist?


OK, well "love-hate" was perhaps the wrong phrase to use.

The real only differences between Fascism and Communism is their Economic policies, and the political decisions based around that aspect; and the idea of making people equal. Both styles offered NO political freedom.s whatsoever. There was ONE ruler (1 individual or 1 group), where the average person had no say in how the country was run. As I stated, the political views were the same (notice how they both oppose any type of democracy, that is what the cold war was about you know...), but the economic views were different; to the point of them dispising each other because of that.
You're Downloading Communism [message #120613] Sat, 16 October 2004 18:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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if you post things about reborn that fine. its your opinion.
but if you telling lies (and not opinions) about a country you not know. better shut your mouth.


You're not proving me wrong with your poor usage of the English language.
You're Downloading Communism [message #120614] Sat, 16 October 2004 18:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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again your not proofing your right either by bring up a statement and saying proof me wrong. (gödel sentences) again come to germany and see your wrong.

there is no website thats stating what germany is not. because the list is infinite.

and if you dont get it: enought points are written down in this thread that proof marxism doesnt reign supreme here. (maybe there was a point in the past)

and stfu about my poor englisch. because that is not to debate here. you can take that arrogant position if you speak german better than i. besides that it doesnt make your statement true.
You're Downloading Communism [message #120616] Sat, 16 October 2004 18:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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welfare state

n : a government that undertakes responsibility for the welfare of its citizens through programs in public health and public housing and pensions and unemployment compensation etc

Whoever can use this to better their arguement, go for it.

Edit: by the way, anything relating to anti-capitalism is, in part though not completely, communist -based. Social assistance (in any form) is one examply of a communistic/socialistic ideal.
You're Downloading Communism [message #120618] Sat, 16 October 2004 18:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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usa have no pensions , not any programs (unimportant what actually they do) for unemployed people and all that things ? not a little bit? (i dont know 100% because i dont life there) but if there is somthing like that: usa must be "based" on a welfare program according to ack's preferred line of argumentation.

i not deny that germany is one but this doesnt mean "Socialism\Communism reigns supreme" here. they only raise the standards for everyone. (raise the lower bound, but dont make everyone equal)
You're Downloading Communism [message #120650] Sat, 16 October 2004 20:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Aircraftkiller

My name isn't ack, either.

Laeubi's name is not Loobie.
Renardin6's name is not Retardin.
How you expect people to adhear to your request when you can not even follw them?
You're Downloading Communism [message #120652] Sat, 16 October 2004 20:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey, can I post RenAlert and Reborn on my website? My clan supports both mods equally.

Dear Aircraftkiller:
I have deep respect for what you do for this community... except:
If you keep calling Laubi: Loobie (Not a n00b like me)
and Renardin: Retardin (Reborn)
I'll refer to you as: crACK (RenAlert)

I like mods!


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You're Downloading Communism [message #120654] Sat, 16 October 2004 20:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Do you really thing that he cares?

I suck cock and love it... absolutely love it. And I just got banned for being too immature to be allowed to post here.
You're Downloading Communism [message #120656] Sat, 16 October 2004 20:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No, i do not think that Aircraftkiller cares...

wait, about hosting the mod?


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You're Downloading Communism [message #120683] Sun, 17 October 2004 01:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Can you not simply make a list, like I did, WHY germany is based on marx theries?

Because, come on well-fare is not a good argument.
Marx don't thought about well-fare when he stated 'equal live circumstances', he meant, that EVERYTHING is owned by the woorking-class, noone 'owns' something, just the community.
Come and visit Germany and you'll see we all wear different closes, eat different things and (nearly) all companys are private.


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You're Downloading Communism [message #120684] Sun, 17 October 2004 01:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Why should I list anything but what I already did? I proved my point, you failed to prove yours. I'm not going to find more connections because my entire argument was that Germany was based on at least one ideal of Marxism.
You're Downloading Communism [message #120688] Sun, 17 October 2004 02:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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When you read this topic, You can really notice the difference between people who live in the U.S.A and those who live in Europe. I live in Holland (yes, that lies in Europe too). The government out here is crappy though. With their ideas. Infact, The working man pay's for their mistakes. And I kinda see the same things in the U.S.A. Bush. I don't understand why people vote om him again. It's a nice shit he's making out there in Iraq.

You're Downloading Communism [message #120699] Sun, 17 October 2004 05:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"I proved my point" <- where?

"my entire argument was that Germany was based on at least one ideal of Marxism. " THAT IS NOT YOUR STATEMENT you said "Not really, the Reborn team comes from Germany. Socialism\Communism reigns supreme there."

because one point in common can clearly not make it reign supreme here.
You're Downloading Communism [message #120831] Sun, 17 October 2004 22:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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By Ack's logic, Denmark is a capitalistic, communistic, facistic, critsian state.

And communism is quite large in the US.

You know, we actually in Denmark have a serious party saying no taxes and put all imigrants on a plane and dump them over Africa. If you call that communistic, then you have a problem.


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You're Downloading Communism [message #120833] Sun, 17 October 2004 23:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Not only that! Austria, The Netherlands and France, had that kind of a political Party too... Think of Jörg Heider, le pain (can't remember the correct spelling of that French guy anymore) and Pim Fortuyn (who got shot on 6th may 2002).. if you call these poeple communistic, then you've born in the wrong side of the town.

Also, Pim Fortuyn USED to be a Communist when he was a "young one".

Actually, Pim Fortuyn was different then le pain and Jörg heider... Pim Fortuyn was a bit political left (european Version) Compared to le pain and Jörg Heider.
You're Downloading Communism [message #120834] Mon, 18 October 2004 00:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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None of that has anything to do with Germany being based on at least one ideal of Marxism. :rolleyes:
You're Downloading Communism [message #120863] Mon, 18 October 2004 05:55 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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How does a picture of "When you download Reborn your downloading Communism" turn into this??? And why is it that Reborn is Communist when RenAlert has Russia in it??? And why must it turn into such stupid endings???
Can someone lock this....


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