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Bush: Pre-Senile Dementia? [message #119736] |
Mon, 11 October 2004 15:15 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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Well, campaign writers don't make you stutter...Also, here's some interesting pictures from the debates...
Yes, the White House has acknowledged these pictures, but say that they are just a bulge in his coat. I think not.
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Bush: Pre-Senile Dementia? [message #119742] |
Mon, 11 October 2004 15:37 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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The New York Times | WASHINGTON, Oct. 8 - What was that bulge in the back of President Bush's suit jacket at the presidential debate in Miami last week?
According to rumors racing across the Internet this week, the rectangular bulge visible between Mr. Bush's shoulder blades was a radio receiver, getting answers from an offstage counselor into a hidden presidential earpiece. The prime suspect was Karl Rove, Mr. Bush's powerful political adviser.
When the online magazine Salon published an article about the rumors on Friday, the speculation reached such a pitch that White House and campaign officials were inundated with calls.
First they said that pictures showing the bulge might have been doctored. But then, when the bulge turned out to be clearly visible in the television footage of the evening, they offered a different explanation.
"There was nothing under his suit jacket," said Nicolle Devenish, a campaign spokeswoman.
"It was most likely a rumpling of that portion of his suit jacket, or a wrinkle in the fabric."
Ms. Devenish could not say why the "rumpling" was rectangular.
Nor was the bulge from a bulletproof vest, according to campaign and White House officials; they said Mr. Bush was not wearing one.
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Here's the link to the article, in case anyone wants to see it: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/09/politics/campaign/09bulge.html
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"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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Bush: Pre-Senile Dementia? [message #119744] |
Mon, 11 October 2004 16:02 |
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RATM_Bassist
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The video does show that President Bush was a good speaker at debates, but now it seems that his "communication device" failed, so he was not able to recieve the information that he needed. Tell me what you think
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Bush: Pre-Senile Dementia? [message #119753] |
Mon, 11 October 2004 16:47 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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You're confusing liberals with FOX News, and ACK, are you honestly saying that the perfect square on the back of Bush's clothing is a wrinkle?
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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Bush: Pre-Senile Dementia? [message #119762] |
Mon, 11 October 2004 17:04 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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...And yet I haven't mentioned intelligence in this thread yet. Stay on-topic, please.
Oh, and Toxin, it does look like a Kevlar buckle, a bit, although the White House has come out and said it was not a bullet-proof vest. Regardless, some funny business is going on.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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Bush: Pre-Senile Dementia? [message #119769] |
Mon, 11 October 2004 17:36 |
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RATM_Bassist
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I'm going to have to with SuperFlyingEngi on this one. Wrinkles are not shaped in perfect squares, like in the picture seen above. All you people mad about us discussing what is wrong can just eat me.
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Bush: Pre-Senile Dementia? [message #119787] |
Mon, 11 October 2004 18:42 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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Crimson | the same as we Republicans weren't in an uproar on footage that plainly showed Kerry pulling some sort of what could possibly have been a cheat sheet from his pocket and unfolding it on the podium.
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He wasn't pulling a cheat sheet out of his pocket, he was un-capping his pen.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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Bush: Pre-Senile Dementia? [message #119788] |
Mon, 11 October 2004 18:51 |
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NukeIt15
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I think it could be a vest as well. It would make perfect sense to not tell anyone he was wearing one- or even to deny he was wearing one. If there was a shooter somewhere in the audience, if they knew he had a vest on, they might shoot for the head instead- and a helmet would have been much harder to conceal (that, and someone would be bound to say there was a headset concealed in it, yadda yadda yadda). Somewhat like the flight suit that people have been complaining about from that carrier landing- well, he couldn't very well sit in an ejection seat(and you'd better believe that's where he was) with a suit and tie on.
You're making mountains out of molehills here. Even if it was a reciever, so what? It obviously doesn't help him in anyway, so why the big problem with it? If it were Kerry with a "mysterious" shape under his jacket, the Democrats wouldn't care at all; it would be the Republicans bitching about it. I fail to see the significance of this; I'd place good money that candidates have been fed debate answers since they started doing debates in the first place.
Whee, political sniping... :rolleyes:
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Bush: Pre-Senile Dementia? [message #119793] |
Mon, 11 October 2004 19:24 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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What about the movie? That's what this thread is about. The picture is just a little sidetrack I put here, and didn't feel like it warranted another thread.
Oh, and by the way, I can sort of understand the argument for body armor, I've already seen it, but those people in that town hall meeting must be so well scanned by the Secret Service that I doubt any of them could ever be a potential killer.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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