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| History of Reborn Repeats Itself [message #117660] |
Fri, 01 October 2004 12:14   |
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Steppo
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Registered: December 2003
Location: Danielson, CT
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So once again, like some dilapidated garter snake that doens't like it's own color, "Deezer Studios" sheds the skin of those who could make Reborn better through exposing design and coding flaws in the system.
People continue to persist that my little "History of Reborn's development" was all lies and flim-flam, and yet we see here that history does indeed repeat itself. In fact, we're just shy of the one year mark where "Deezer Studios" hosed its entire US beta team due to "Excessive negative comments".
Deezer, Renardin, whomever, if you have an issue with people "Leaking" images from your mod, due to the fact that you fear negative feedback, then maybe, oh I dunno, you shouldn't have added the feature in the first place!
I distinctly remember leaked images of poor character rigging for a good three or four months during beta testing, and then I remember the bug logs, and then I remember the disbanding of the entire US beta team.
So what's the game plan, here? Are you supposed to keep "Firing" beta testers until you get the ones who tell you that there is nothing wrong with Reborn? Perhaps get to the point where you could render in those default "Tea-kettle" models, call them mammoth tanks, and have your entire team give you the thumbs up... that is, when their thumbs aren't already so far up their asses that it nullifies the lack of gameplay with the inability to click a mouse properly?
Here's a little concept for you. Get people who can make models. Get people who can code. Get people who can run a goddamn mod. You seem to be banking on this wonderful trend of firing people who actually have a clue and inform you, point blank, that your mod is of fairly low quality.
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| History of Reborn Repeats Itself [message #117661] |
Fri, 01 October 2004 12:15 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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Registered: November 2003
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They leaked, he fired. That's all there is to it.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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| History of Reborn Repeats Itself [message #117690] |
Fri, 01 October 2004 14:11 |
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Steppo
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Registered: December 2003
Location: Danielson, CT
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Leaking the internal alpha is unlikely, at least to the Reborn team, anyway.
During my time during the original beta, they had proclaimed that they used some sort of reg-key integration in the beta, so if a copy is leaked, they'll know who leaked it, and BAM, tester fired.
I think there was an INI or a TXT file lying in there somewhere with a specific number, etc.
"Leaking" screenshots like that is something that they have to expect. If leaking an image of something within the beta causes such an uproar, focused on a specific object within the game, then the object simply shouldn't be in the beta, or they should have left it to a developer's test only.
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But you would temporerally take away their privalages, until you found out? Which is actually what the Reborn team have done.
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No, what the Reborn team did was disband the beta team. Permanently. Finito. End of story.
They did it before, and replaced them with yes-men testers who simply nodded like the little fanboys that they were.
The idea for a beta test is to get a "Controlled public" opinion on all facets and aspects of a given application. This includes design, bugs, etc. However, it gives you the safety net of saying "It's just a beta" at all times. Leaking the image should not have incurred such a reaction from "Deezer Studios", unless they already knew that the issue existed. In other words, they asked the beta team to keep their mouth shut about the poor quality objects in the next release. It defeats the purpose of a beta team.
Releasing that image should have been more of a blessing than a curse. The number of people with their hands on the beta remained the same, and the response (In numbers of people) actually increased. It's no different than releasing renders of new models. You release them, get feedback, and work on it.
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| History of Reborn Repeats Itself [message #117714] |
Fri, 01 October 2004 16:28 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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God, this is like a reality tv show.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
The Liberal Media At Work
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| History of Reborn Repeats Itself [message #117902] |
Sat, 02 October 2004 13:33 |
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Dan
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Registered: August 2003
Location: UK
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FYI, hosting my picture like that and having modified it is a violation of Internet harassment laws. I suggest you take it down for your own good as posting pictures of the Fruit Fucker 2000 isn't exactly against the law seeing as how it isn't being modified or used in a harassing manner.
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According to several sources I have looked at, editing a picture of you doesnt break any Internet Harassment Laws:
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A direct form of Internet harassment may involve the sending of unwanted e-mails which are abusive, threatening or obscene from one person to another.13 It may involve electronic sabotage, in the form of sending the victim hundreds or thousands of junk e-mail messages (the activity known as “spamming�) or sending computer viruses. Indirect forms of harassment may involve a cyberstalker impersonating his or her victim on-line and sending abusive e-mails or fraudulent spams in the victim’s name.
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| History of Reborn Repeats Itself [message #117975] |
Sat, 02 October 2004 16:15 |
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liberator
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Registered: May 2003
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From the sounds of it Renardin and Co. are working very hard at being the next Derek Smart.:rolleyes:
If you don't know who that is, do a google search.
There was a time when people were impressed that I have the firepower to decimate a planet in under 10 minutes.
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