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| Your religion? [message #117213] |
Tue, 28 September 2004 21:38   |
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bigejoe14
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Even if you don't believe in God, you should still capitalize his name in reference to him.
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Because he is a higher religious being. Just like you would capitalize Allah if you were refering to the Musilum religion.
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And why not be buddhist or islamic?
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Because religion isn't a "believe what you feel like this week" thing. You can't go around saying stuff like "Allah, it's been real cool hanging with you and all, but I just got done talking to Buddah and he seems like a real nice guy. I'm gonna go hang with him for a bit". Or, "Sorry Buddah, but I gotta let ya go. Jesus is my homeboy now". You wouldn't have your priorities set straight. It's a "What you believe is right" thing. Just as Christians, Musilums, and Buddists believe that their religion is the right one.
But then again, considering your test results, you really wouldn't care about that since you really don't seem to care much about religion anyway.
WHATEVER, FAGGOT
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| Your religion? [message #117215] |
Tue, 28 September 2004 21:49 |
Apache
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All of the possible quiz results for this quiz:
Fundamentalist Christian (You scored 1)
Holy Roller (You scored 1)
Average Christian (You scored 2)
True Christian (You scored 5)
Pagan/Occultist (You scored 1)
Second Test:
1. Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (100%)
2. Seventh Day Adventist (88%)
3. Eastern Orthodox (87%)
4. Roman Catholic (87%)
5. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (86%)
6. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (83%)
7. Jehovah's Witness (82%)
8. Orthodox Quaker (81%)
9. Bahá'í Faith (75%)
10. Orthodox Judaism (73%)
11. Sikhism (63%)
12. Islam (60%)
13. Liberal Quakers (57%)
14. Reform Judaism (43%)
15. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (41%)
16. Hinduism (39%)
17. Unitarian Universalism (39%)
18. Jainism (25%)
19. Nontheist (25%)
20. New Thought (20%)
21. Mahayana Buddhism (19%)
22. Theravada Buddhism (19%)
23. Neo-Pagan (19%)
24. Secular Humanism (15%)
25. New Age (14%)
26. Taoism (14%)
27. Scientology (9%)
I answered the questions as honestly as I could...
- Russell
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| Your religion? [message #117245] |
Wed, 29 September 2004 06:17 |
Incognito
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What have you got to lose? I'd rather live my life believing in something rather than nothing. What if the Christians are right, and there really is a Heaven and a Hell, and Jesus really was the Son of God and died for all the reasons he said he did? I'd say you're pretty much screwed when you get to the gates of Heaven and God says "I made you, yet you didn't believe in me, and now you want into paradise? I'm sorry, but go to Hell (literally)."
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Exactly. PERHAPS my religion is all a joke (of course I highly doubt that). What have I lost by believing in something? Wouldn't it be more comforting to think that there is more to your life than just the physical part? I mean, I'd much rather believe that I could be rewarded for my actions rather than believing that my life came from an explosion and after I die I go into the ground and cease to exist at all. That right there should get you to at least explore religion.
Back to this name.... for now.
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| Your religion? [message #117313] |
Wed, 29 September 2004 12:21 |
icedog90
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Anyone who claims they don't believe in anything just believe they don't believe in anything.
I took the quiz, and I feel it's inaccurate because I read what it said about me and it was not me. It said I was a Christian, which I am, but it said "I believe that anyone who does not obey a law in the bible shall burn in hell", which is definitely not something I would say or think.
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| Your religion? [message #117314] |
Wed, 29 September 2004 12:25 |
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Panther
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And why not be buddhist or islamic?
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Because religion isn't a "believe what you feel like this week" thing. You can't go around saying stuff like "Allah, it's been real cool hanging with you and all, but I just got done talking to Buddah and he seems like a real nice guy. I'm gonna go hang with him for a bit". Or, "Sorry Buddah, but I gotta let ya go. Jesus is my homeboy now". You wouldn't have your priorities set straight. It's a "What you believe is right" thing. Just as Christians, Musilums, and Buddists believe that their religion is the right one.
But then again, considering your test results, you really wouldn't care about that since you really don't seem to care much about religion anyway.
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I agree with your point, but according to hydra i should go believe in God because he might exist and heaven might exist. So I was asking [him] why not believe in Buddah or Allah?
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| Your religion? [message #117318] |
Wed, 29 September 2004 12:30 |
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Anyone who claims they don't believe in anything just believe they don't believe in anything.
I took the quiz, and I feel it's inaccurate because I read what it said about me and it was not me. It said I was a Christian, which I am, but it said "I believe that anyone who does not obey a law in the bible shall burn in hell", which is definitely not something I would say or think.
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Fundamentalist Christian? That's what I had originally, but that's not who I am so I went back and tweaked my answers to better describe myself.
Back to this name.... for now.
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| Your religion? [message #117319] |
Wed, 29 September 2004 12:33 |
icedog90
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Fundamentalist Christian? That's what I had originally, but that's not who I am so I went back and tweaked my answers to better describe myself.
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Ah, yes, that is what it was. I don't really like Fundamental Christians because of how they are so uptight and... Fundamental... I might as well tweak my answers too, because I think I would be somewhere between Holy Roller and Average Christian.
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| Your religion? [message #117325] |
Wed, 29 September 2004 12:57 |
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I'm not Fundamentalist. I certainly don't look down at others. I have athiest friends who are more "goodie goodie" than I am.
Some of those I didn't read close enough and read all the way, so I hastily picked some. Then when I saw fundamentalist christian I knew something was wrong, so I went back and fixed my mistakes.
Back to this name.... for now.
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| Your religion? [message #117329] |
Wed, 29 September 2004 14:21 |
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NukeIt15
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There is not any way of saying whose beliefs are correct. Maybe they all are, or maybe none of them are at all- every religion in history has claimed to hold the keys to eternity and salvation, but the only way you'll ever find out for sure is to die and see what happens.
That said, I, while I do believe in life after death, do not believe in the existence of deities. I also do not believe there was ever a "beginning" of time, or that there can ever be an "end." Time simply exists. Good and Evil certainly exist, but they aren't quite as polarized for me as they appear to be for many others.
Believing in something is important- but that something could pretty much be anything that you feel gives your life meaning. It isn't quite as simple as telling someone they believe in nothing, because- well, they are obviously capable of tsome form of thought, therefore they must have some kind of beliefs; to believe in nothing is to not exist at all. Perhaps their idea of what constitutes a religion is different than your own.
"Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. Horrid mischief would ensue were (the law-abiding) deprived of the use of them." - Thomas Paine
Remember, kids: illiteracy is cool. If you took the time to read this, you are clearly a loser who will never get laid. You've been warned.
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| Your religion? [message #117437] |
Thu, 30 September 2004 12:07 |
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Scythar
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Nice reply NukeIt. It's interesting to think it like this:
A higher power is often thought to be "everywhere". Many gods in different religions have a power that's in the nature itself, and even the Christian God is described as omnipresent (As far as I know). Now, if the god is everywhere and everything, does it really matter what you believe into? Don't you believe into the "true" deity, or at least to a part of it, by believeng into ANYTHING? God isn't often described very well for obvious reasons, so it's an interesting question.
Of course this kind of thought is a bit childish and illogical (what are heathen gods then? Or "the bad god" (Like Satan) which is in many religions?), but it's a thought nevertheless.
I guess you could also think that the god could be somekind of balanced force, both good and evil. This way you could believe either in it's good side or the bad side, but when you start to think more of that, it'll get very complicated. At least for me.
"(Un)holy Deity!" Went kind of off-topic there... Ö_ö
There's a hole in the sky through which things can fly.
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| Your religion? [message #117452] |
Thu, 30 September 2004 13:21 |
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Dan
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I'm one of those people who believes in God creating the universe, but also I believe in the big bang theory and the evolution theory. I believe in evolution/the big bang because there is sufficient evidence for me. For example, look at how similar humans are compared to apes (comparing DNA). But also, I've thought, "where did it all come from in the first place?" I mean, what was before the beginning? Which also leads me to the question "How did God come into existance?". Of course they are impossible to have a 100% correct answer, but I like thinking about these sorts of questions from time to time =)
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| Your religion? [message #117515] |
Thu, 30 September 2004 19:33 |
flyingfox
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My personal belief over the course of time is that there is no god and never has been. In response to scythar, I don't think he is described very well because he does not exist therefore cannot be described. you'll see pictures and images depicting jesus and other biblical characters all the time. that's because these are characters described to have lived, and given descriptions to base the images from. perhaps these people do not have descriptions, and we can only make our own judgements on how they looked.
People used to believe things like the rain coming down from the sky is "God's punishment on us for our sins". well, study has proven rain comes naturally in a process of saturation, evaporation and conversion (cloud water to rain water). people believed a great many things when they didn't know otherwise.
furthermore, in the modern age of science and research, we discover more and more about the world and how it works. How can a planet just be created out of nothing through a phantom that we have never seen and never will?
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1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
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etc... if these teachings were supposed to educate people, they would mention actual elements that exist, like the sun, and the constant rotation of earth which gives us light in the first place. if fact like this exists and is proven, why does it tell otherwise?
However, I think the bible should still be read because we can learn from it. adam and eve speaks of human greed overcoming the will to follow rules (eating from the one bad tree). samson and delilah talks of love making a man foolish in his judgements. (although that doesn't seem to be one of the key teachings)
http://www.virtualchurch.org/samson.htm
if any story in the bible is true, it would be the stories of actual people; it tells of men and women who lived and breathed on the earth.
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| Your religion? [message #117518] |
Thu, 30 September 2004 20:07 |
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bigejoe14
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I don't think he is described very well because he does not exist therefore cannot be described
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See, but that's what you believe. You believe that he dosen't exist. Many other people however, like myself, do believe that he does.
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People used to believe things like the rain coming down from the sky is "God's punishment on us for our sins".
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Says who? The only time God ever sent rain down upon the earth to punish the sinners was for The Great Flood. Just because it rains every few days dosen't mean that we are being punished.
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How can a planet just be created out of nothing through a phantom that we have never seen and never will?
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How can a planet just be created out of a giant exploding ball of mass we have never seen and never will? This argument about what created the universe has become pretty much moot. Creationists can't explain how God came to being. And the Evolutionists can't explain how their giant ball of mass came into being. An age old debate that only time will answer.
WHATEVER, FAGGOT
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| Your religion? [message #117532] |
Thu, 30 September 2004 21:25 |
icedog90
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It's hard to think how God has always existed, or how the universe was created, that's because this is too complicated for our minds and not understandable. Just because we're Humans, doesn't mean we can try to understand everything.
I'll also state again, you only believe you don't believe in anything.
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| Your religion? [message #117663] |
Fri, 01 October 2004 12:23 |
flyingfox
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bigejoe, i won't debate the big boom theory. knowing little about the solar system (as one does), i have a theory that (edited out, i don't think it's accurate from reading up on it). does the bible even talk of space?? also, as far as planets go, what we DO know is that in either of the other surrounding planets, most of them are either too cold or hot for prosperity.
The bible isn't even that specific on it, it just says "in the beginning, God created the heaven and earth". now i'll agree that there are things we cannot and probably won't be able to explain for a long long time. but why is it the bible talks of God saying let there be light, and there was light; if we can now prove how light and dark exist, doesn't that make that part of the bible a lie and put the whole context of the bible into question? If it lies from the start, who are we to trust the rest of it? I'll say again, the bible is an educating book (from what i have read so far) to read but what one such as myself must remember is that there are educated truths we know, that the bible speaks of otherwise. On a human level, such as the story of samson and delilah, it's good read.
remember the story of a man who created a pathway through the ocean for people to escape through, which then collapsed back down on the pursuers? god seemed to be ever present in this time, and miracles seemed to happen.. why do they never happen now? The bible talks of the need to remind people that he is the one true god. if this is so, why are there no reminders now of who we should keep our faith in? there are too many holes and questions people cannot answer. as for your first section of reply, i value your choice of thinking for yourself so don't take this is a challenge to your faith.
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| Your religion? [message #117771] |
Fri, 01 October 2004 20:27 |
icedog90
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I'll just say that I guess you'll have to find out yourself.
Also, you should try reading some prophecies.
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