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Admission that the War in Iraq was wrong? [message #117183] |
Tue, 28 September 2004 18:50 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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That's a pretty big generalization you've got going there, Nodbugger, especially against one of our few real allies in Iraq.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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Admission that the War in Iraq was wrong? [message #117261] |
Wed, 29 September 2004 07:50 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
Incognito
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Toolstyle | You may call us Brits "wusses", but most Americans are Retarded for several reasons:
1) The Californians elected the Terminator in a senator or whatever he is.
2) You elected Bush a President.
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Ok, so if I were a Californian then I'd be retarted for voting Arnold and George into office? What's wrong if I actually agree with the Republican views? Maybe California thought he'd do a better job than the Democratic candidate? Maybe it's also possible for anybody to be in office in America because it's a free country?
Maybe you're retarted for saying that? No, not maybe, definetely.
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Admission that the War in Iraq was wrong? [message #117277] |
Wed, 29 September 2004 08:51 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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Toolstyle | You may call us Brits "wusses", but most Americans are Retarded for several reasons:
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Yeah...I can see the generalization now :rolleyes:
Back to this name.... for now.
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Admission that the War in Iraq was wrong? [message #117328] |
Wed, 29 September 2004 14:13 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/theme/Renegade_Forums/images/down.png) |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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The only topic I'm going to reply on right now is the Patriot misslie: It's a load of garbage. First Gulf War, it didn't hit a single thing. It's just a big corporate money vacuum.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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Admission that the War in Iraq was wrong? [message #117345] |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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Nodbugger | Patriot missiles saved my dads camp from scud missiles.
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No, SCUD missiles saved your dad's camp from SCUD missiles. SCUDs are so horribly inaccurate that they're classified as terror weapons because you can't reliably hit anything with them.
In the first Gulf War, patriot missiles didn't hit a single thing.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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Admission that the War in Iraq was wrong? [message #117359] |
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Is this about Blair's speech, or is it about patriot missiles?
Great way to knock this thread off-topic, toolstyle.
On-topic: What does Blair have to apoligize for, saying Iraq had WMDs and using that as evidence to go to war? Bad move, Blair, bad move.
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Admission that the War in Iraq was wrong? [message #117417] |
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Actually I think you'll find, that "Patriots" can be used in Auto or Semi-Auto i.e. humans verify the signal before the missiles are fired and the soldiers failed in their jobs and allowed the Patriot to fire.
The American's knew about the British tanks in the area because they were on this things called "joint-operations", the americans admitted that they fired on the Tank and we did hear about it, it was in the paper and on the news, I went to visit my friend as soon as I heard about it as well, and he told me.
Anyway back on topic, Tony Blair has no reason to apologise, he went to war based on the information he had at the time, which afterwards proved to be inaccurate, but that isn't his fault, that's the fault of the British and US "Intelligence" agencies (again this is know as "joint operations")
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